Bengals1181 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 We've used this thread in the past to talk about which prospects we're watching and our thoughts about them. For me, I'm also going to try to use it as a way to keep a running "ranking" by position of those I've watched. Toss 'em out as you watch 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 QB (in order) Blake Bortles, Central Florida Aaron Murray, Georgia Connor Shaw, South Carolina Bryn Renner, North Carolina Zach Mettenberger, LSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 RB Tre Mason, Auburn Carlos Hyde, Ohio State James Wilder Jr, Florida State Andre Williams, Boston College Charles Sims, West Virginia Jerome Smith, Syracuse LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi State Tyler Gaffney, Stanford Isaiah Crowell, Alabama State Rajion Neal, Tennessee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech Louchiez Purifoy, Florida Bradley Roby, Ohio State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've watched (what's available on the web) and in order of preference: DE Kareem Martin Trent Murphy (3-4 OLBish) Josh Mauro Scott Crichton Trevor Reilly (3-4 OLBish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 You think Murphy will be an OLB at 6'6"? I know he stood up at times at Stanford, but I don't see it in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 From what I've seen, I like Hyde more than Carey. Carey runs really upright. Kind of looks a bit like Ryan Matthews in the way he runs. Hyde runs kind of high, but he's a big fella and will just abuse arm tacklers. Carey may do the same thing, but not until he puts on some weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 From what I've seen, I like Hyde more than Carey. Carey runs really upright. Kind of looks a bit like Ryan Matthews in the way he runs. Hyde runs kind of high, but he's a big fella and will just abuse arm tacklers. Carey may do the same thing, but not until he puts on some weight. there's also HUGE character red flags with Carey. not that Hyde was a saint obviously, but I've heard talk of some teams taking Carey completely off their board because of how much of a punk he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I've watched (what's available on the web) and in order of preference: DE Kareem Martin Trent Murphy (3-4 OLBish) Josh Mauro Scott Crichton Trevor Reilly (3-4 OLBish) It was really only reflecting how they were used in college. Stanford played Murphy not just standing up, but in the slot over TE's. He moves really well in space for a guy his size. Same with Reilly. With the exception of Crichton, I was trying to look at guys who had similar measurables to guys the team normally covets. I was surprised to see both Reilly and Murphy play a LBish role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Lamarcus Joyner Clemson game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNoQGnuEqw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 CB's - Dennard, Gilbert, Verrett Dennard is the one I want but he will be gone before we pick I reckon. I really like Verrett, he's a true shutdown guy, he plays bigger and more physical than his size. I like Gilbert but he's more of a ball hawk than a shutdown guy which is why I prefer the other two right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 CB's - Dennard, Gilbert, Verrett Dennard is the one I want but he will be gone before we pick I reckon. I really like Verrett, he's a true shutdown guy, he plays bigger and more physical than his size. I like Gilbert but he's more of a ball hawk than a shutdown guy which is why I prefer the other two right now. Just got finished watching Verret, he is great in coverage. He's a real liability when tackling. He will be run over far too often in the NFL. Don't get me wrong, he's not bad at all but I think his size is a legitimate concern. The other two are really solid, especially Dennard. Gilbert didn't play much press man in school so there may be some growing pains. A guy I've liked for a while is Kyle Fuller, he's got great awareness and size, he does lack straight speed but his "quicks" are excellent and combined with his IQ really mitigates the lack of top end speed. A guy that has some video out there (albeit not good quality) is Pierre Desir from Lindenwood. Of course there are questions about the competition, which looked really, really bad (Lincoln and Ft Hays St.), but the kid has tremendous size/speed and long arms. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I think this defense could really use a ballhawk in the back 7. 14 total in the secondary and Adam with the team high at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 CB- in order Dennard Gilbert Fuller Jean-Baptiste Verrett Roby Desir Purifoy Joyner Roberson Edited 1/22/14 to add Jean-Baptiste after seeing him at the Senior Bowl and watching his videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I like Joyner. He looks like a guy who could be a slot corner before potentially take over for Reggie Nelson. Tackles well enough to play safety and closes really well. Played all six positions at FSU according to his DC. Any ball he gets his hands on has potential to be taken to the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I like Joyner. He looks like a guy who could be a slot corner before potentially take over for Reggie Nelson. Tackles well enough to play safety and closes really well. Played all six positions at FSU according to his DC. Any ball he gets his hands on has potential to be taken to the house. Yeah, I've been a fan, though I'm starting to see him pop in first round discussions, which is a bummer. I think his size dings him enough that he falls, but his versatility is great, he's a playmaker, and the idea that he could take over slot duties and eventually step in for Reggie is exactly how I would justify the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I watched the East-West Shrine Game and these guys stood out to me. QB Jimmy Garoppolo -Eastern Illinois DE Will Clarke - WVU DT Demonte McAllister - FSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 CB Jason Verrett, TCU DE Will Clarke, West Virginia DE Dee Ford, Auburn RB David Fluellen, Toledo DE Chris Smith, Arkansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 really impressed by Chris Smith. He's kind of a faster Wallace Gillberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 QB's Logan Thomas - VTech Danny Garoppolo - Eastern Illinois Zach Mettenberger - LSU RB's Andre Williams - BC Carlos Hyde - OSU James Wilder Jr. - FSU Charles Sims - WVU DE's Will Clarke - WVU Marcus Smith - U of L Trent Murphy- Stanford Kareem Martin - UNC DT's Aaron Donald - Pitt Timmy Jerrigan - FSU Demonte McAllister - FSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I've kind of been checking out the RB's only because of Hue's emphasis on the run game. I surely don't think we'll take one in the 1st round. But I wouldn't be surprised if we don't go RB again as early as the 2nd round this year. Carlos Hyde, James Wilder Jr. and Charles Sims. I'd love for Hyde to be there in the 2nd round when we pick but I don't see that happening. Charles Sims intrigues me. 6'0" 213 lbs. 208 rushing attempts for 1095 yards and 45 catches for 401 yards. 11 rushing TD's and 3 receiving TD's. May sound like a Gio clone but I think this guy could put on 10 lbs fairly easily and not lose anything. James Wilder Jr. on the other hand isn't much of a receiving threat but with his size at 6'2" 229 lbs and minimum wear and tear in college (only had 226 carries in college) could be our next Corey Dillon. And he just "MIGHT" be sitting there in the 3rd round. Not too mention he'd be a lot cheaper than BJGE. Could free up some cash to resign someone like oh let's say A.J. Green. I know it wouldn't be a HUGE savings but every penny is going to count because, let's face it. A.J. isn't gonna be cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Of course we have to keep an eye on the CB's. Darqueze Dennard MSU 5' 11" 197 lbs. Justin Gilbert OSU (Oklahoma St.) 6' 0" 200 lbs. Jason Verrett TCU 5' 10" 176 lbs. Bradley Roby OSU 5' 11" 190 lbs. I'd like to see Verrett fall to us in the 1st round but I wouldn't be surprised either if he were the 1st CB taken in the 2014 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I'd have to watch more of him, but Charles Sims reminds me of Joseph Randle from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I'd have to watch more of him, but Charles Sims reminds me of Joseph Randle from last year. So... he sucks, is that what you're saying? 'Cuz Randle pretty much does... at least, so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 RB Tre Mason, Auburn - best playmaker in the draft Carlos Hyde, Ohio State - best power back in the draft Bishop Sankey, Washington - neck and neck with Hyde, but Hyde's power gives him the edge James Wilder Jr, Florida State - if he puts it together, could be the best of the group Marion Grice, Arizona State - a little overrated IMO, but still solid Andre Williams, Boston College - top speed keeps him out of the top 2 or 3 Charles Sims, West Virginia - has starter tools Jerome Smith, Syracuse - a nice power back for a committee, with some twitch of his own LaDarius Perkins, Mississippi State - underused in college, maybe a dimanond in the rough Tyler Gaffney, Stanford - power complement Isaiah Crowell, Alabama State - committee back Rajion Neal, Tennessee - not all that impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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