Arkansas Bengal Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 On how the playbook compares to last year and if this year's system fits his style of play better: "There are some similarities, but this one is a lot more detailed, which is good, which I like. It takes a lot of the gray area out, and that was kind of our thing in Cincinnati. We had some gray area things, and I think this shores every up. I think that's good for an offense, details. That way everybody can be on the same page a little better." http://www.19actionnews.com/story/26175918/browns-friday-andrew-hawkins-transcript Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 That's good. Enjoy the staph fucker. And the sidelines after approximately 4 weeks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 In Cleveland's playbook, the spot the pass has to be has a Steeler or Raven defender standing on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unleashed Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 He should've stayed in the same uniform as Burfict. Going across the middle could be a death wish for the lil guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPaw Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 not exactly a slam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madieu Superstar Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Oh come on, leave him alone. How many people on here have criticized Gruden? he didn't come out and mention him by name at all. He just juxtaposed the two playbooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted August 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Oh come on, leave him alone. How many people on here have criticized Gruden? he didn't come out and mention him by name at all. He just juxtaposed the two playbooks. Please stop using those big words. :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphead Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 LOL. Yeah...Imma be honest. Part of me was like, "No shit, fucker. Gruden was mehhhhh." Then the other part of me was like, "How hard is it to praise your current situation without shitting on where you came from?" Like...I dunno. Fuck em either way. He's a true Brownie now. Good luck in the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Guess this is why they went after Andre Roberts instead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Baby hawk bout to get re-introduced to Vontaze :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Hawk will just run through the 5-hole to evade tacklers. And no, that wasn't a slam, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Harley| Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 The positive I take is that there are clear areas that Hue can improve the offense and getting rid of Gruden is a plus. I have no problem with what Hawk said. Not a slam just sharing insights which we all enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 TBH this wasn't a dig imo. It was an honest assessment of what a lot of us were already thinking throughout Gruden's tenure with the Bengals. There was too much stale and not enough flavor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think he's talking about all the option routes? There were a lot of INTs and incompletes last year where you could tell AD expected the WR to be somewhere else. Not saying they were all the WR's fault but I think that's what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think he's talking about all the option routes? There were a lot of INTs and incompletes last year where you could tell AD expected the WR to be somewhere else. Not saying they were all the WR's fault but I think that's what he meant. x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADgCeYJMN4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think calling this a slam is a stretch. More like mild criticism. Plenty of others have criticized Gruden for a variety of reasons, including that the offense was too big and too complex. I have argued that he was too willing to abandon the run and get pass happy. That being said, the offense still finished 6th in scoring and 10th in yards last year under Gruden. The biggest problem was turnovers, IMO, and it's pretty amazing the Bengals went 11-5 last year when they were only +1 in turnover margin. Not likely to replicate that success if Andy throws 20 interceptions again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 I think calling this a slam is a stretch. More like mild criticism. Plenty of others have criticized Gruden for a variety of reasons, including that the offense was too big and too complex. I have argued that he was too willing to abandon the run and get pass happy. That being said, the offense still finished 6th in scoring and 10th in yards last year under Gruden. The biggest problem was turnovers, IMO, and it's pretty amazing the Bengals went 11-5 last year when they were only +1 in turnover margin. Not likely to replicate that success if Andy throws 20 interceptions again. I totally agree.. The production was fine, the turnovers were the killer that kept them from being a great offense. Cutting down on the int's will be key, hopefully Hue's offense helps that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 not exactly a slam. Neither were Hawkins earlier remarks about how Cleveland's OC had installed a playbook that gave more consideration to the things current players on the roster do well instead of an OC simply introducing a play and hoping players can find a way to make it work. IMHO neither of the criticisms quailfy as slams, but both criticisms taken together begin to paint a picture of a very successful OC who got the big stuff right but may not have had a firm grasp on finer details. Or gray areas, as Hawkins put it. As previously noted, many of us have made the same types of criticisms when evaluating Gruden, and if we're honest Hue Jackson says the same types of things on a near daily basis. (Attention to details. Managing your mistakes. Etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Did he get a box of crayons with his Cleveland playbook or did he have to provide his own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unleashed Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Pettine has installed the Tecmo DIY playbook. No grey areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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