oldschooler Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I posted this in the other thread, but thought it deserved it's own thread ... Mike Brown sees Vance Joseph 'as a star,' says Marvin Lewis Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis made the media rounds in Arizona on Thursday as he fulfilled various Super Bowl Week appearances. It was during a seven-minute appearance on ESPN's "NFL Insiders" in the afternoon that Lewis spoke publicly for the second time about the standoff the Bengals and Broncos had this month over assistant coach Vance Joseph. Last week during the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama, Lewis told Bengals.com and the Cincinnati Enquirer that the decision to block Joseph, one of the Bengals' co-defensive backs coaches, from leaving for Denver was "a hard one." It was so hard because team president Mike Brown recognizes Joseph's value, Lewis said on the television show Thursday. "My boss and owner sees him as a star," Lewis said, "and a guy that, as I told Vance, he could be sitting in my chair very quickly." Lewis then added, laughing: "It could be next year." Viewed in several NFL circles as an up-and-comer in the coaching ranks, the 42-year-old Joseph had been granted permission by the Bengals to interview for the Broncos' head-coaching vacancy that came open when John Fox was fired following Denver's divisional-round playoff loss to Indianapolis. Four days after Joseph's interview, former Ravens offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak was announced as Fox's replacement. Not long after, word leaked that Kubiak and his new bosses favored bringing Joseph on board as they tried to fill their empty defensive coordinator position. Before joining the Bengals last offseason, Joseph had served as Kubiak's defensive backs coach for three years when Kubiak was the head coach of the Houston Texans. Once they discovered the Broncos' intentions, the Bengals blocked Joseph from voiding his contract in order to leave for the coordinator position. Had he instead been offered the head-coaching job, perhaps their stance would have been different. Denver on Wednesday hired longtime coach Wade Phillips to run the defense. "Vance understands how things work. All coaches do," Lewis said Thursday. "Anytime you're in that situation as a coach, the very first thing should be if I can be released from my contract. As we know, as you look across the league, some are and some aren't, and that's part of the process. "As Mike reminds me, his No. 1 devotion is to the Cincinnati Bengals. That's what he's in charge of is his club and our club, and what's best for us." Though Lewis might have been joking about it, the Bengals do seem to have the makings of a succession plan in place in the event 2015 is his final season. For now, Lewis is set to coach next season on the final year of a contract. The team hasn't given any indication if it plans to sign him to an extension sometime this offseason. Along with Joseph, the Bengals also already have another former head coach on their staff in Hue Jackson, the offensive coordinator who interviewed for the Buffalo Bills' opening this month. http://espn.go.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/15391/bengals-marvin-lewis-vance-joseph-mike-brown-star-assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 And audio of Marvin's appearance on ESPN NFL Insiders http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=12249401 … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_dish Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 As long as some of the deadbeat assistant coaches are fired... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I could see Marvin retiring after 2015 and Hue or Joseph moving into the HC position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|westside bengal| Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Last week it was Mike Brown giving marching orders to be more active in free agency. This week Mike Brown is not letting coaching staff go elsewhere. What happen to Mike Brown had handed the reigns over to Marvin and Kate and they were running the show? Sounds like Marvin has been unofficially demoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Last week it was Mike Brown giving marching orders to be more active in free agency. This week Mike Brown is not letting coaching staff go elsewhere. What happen to Mike Brown had handed the reigns over to Marvin and Kate and they were running the show? Sounds like Marvin has been unofficially demoted. I think he's a lame duck treading water. Last year this time it was all about getting a year extension on his contract. This year it looks like he is picking up a paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Last week it was Mike Brown giving marching orders to be more active in free agency. This week Mike Brown is not letting coaching staff go elsewhere. What happen to Mike Brown had handed the reigns over to Marvin and Kate and they were running the show? Sounds like Marvin has been unofficially demoted. The whole story hasn't yet been told. This was Marivn's decision as much as it was any one person's. I don't know if it is part if a succession plan or not. That's entirely possible. Marvin can poo-poo it all he likes it, but if he goes into the season without a new contract, then it's pretty likely he won't be back for 2016. Does that mean he's moving on? Or moving up? The other distinct possibility is that Marvin DOES plan to return and simply wants Vance Joseph around in case Paul Guenther is either fired, or gets a head coaching gig next year. Neither of which is out of the realm of possibility. If nothing changes, and Joseph simply finishes out his contract, then Marvin screwed the guy. He can say what he wants. The fact is, if Marvin Lewis wanted the guy to interview, he'd have interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Joseph was wanted for a couple of jobs ... Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 9h9 hours ago Source said Adam Gase's pitch to the Niners was to a) keep Vic Fangio as DC if he was willing or b ) hire Vance Joseph from Cincinnati. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwing Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 This won't be the first time Marvin went into a season w/out a contract but two in house candidates for future coach are nice fallbacks. This team has had a nice run but hadn't gotten over the hump. There are soon to be high dollar free agents due big contracts. Some will stay, some will go. There will be a very difficult schedule, likely the most difficult in the last 4-5 seasons. Some of the recent projects haven't progressed and the Zimmer retreads are nearing the end. Much re-loading to do. Many questions to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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