Randle P McMurphy Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Bastages! What's the going rate for a starting LG these days? What do you think it'll cost to retain him or are you okay with letting him walk? http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/3/2/8131181/report-willie-colon-jets-clint-boling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Bastages! What's the going rate for a starting LG these days?What do you think it'll cost to retain him or are you okay withletting him walk? http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/3/2/8131181/report-willie-colon-jets-clint-boling It simply depends on the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 If anyone pays him market rate I don't think we'll match. On the flipside, if we do, truly go after a big FA, this is the one year where retaining a guy like Boiling would be worth it more than usual (we won't get a third for him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 How much could Boling be worth? I mean really? At least here you'd have a tiny little baby jesus sized chance of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 2014 Guard contracts http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2014/guard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Wouldn't be surprised to see him get 5 years $20-25M. Young guys (still only 25) with multiple years of starting experience and average to above-average performance are going to be at least somewhat expensive on the open market. He'd be an instant starter on half the teams in the league at least. I had estimated it would take a $4M per year contract to sign him, but that might be on the lower end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 didnt we cut his backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 So when does the Hate begin for this contestant? How dare he entertain thoughts of market value?! How dare any team contemplate it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_dish Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 So when does the Hate begin for this contestant? How dare he entertain thoughts of market value?! How dare any team contemplate it?! He hasn't been terrible for years, so I doubt there is any reason to celebrate his "departure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Maybe not just yet...but the moment the plane touches down at LaGuardia..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Maybe not just yet...but the moment the plane touches down at LaGuardia..... He's pretty good. Average to slightly above-average starter (which is nothing to sneeze at considering how bad our OG play was before his arrival). I made the case for re-signing him elsewhere. I'd love him at $4M and be fine with $5M. If it gets much higher than that, I don't know... I was thinking about all the different options when putting together a Bengals mock draft and one of the things I considered was whether it might make sense to let Boling go if he gets too expensive and put that money they were budgeting for him towards a really top notch DE. One of the top guys on the market. That would take DE off the table as an early round need and make somebody like La'el Collins in the first round a really attractive option. Something like that could theoretically upgrade both the OL and DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Trey Hopkins will be the Week 1 starter at left guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulcherVulcher33 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I would like to have clint boling back,but if he leaves I'm not going to cry about it, we've had a couple of big names create an offensive lineman leave before aka Eric Steinbach and Anthony Collins and it didn't work out so well for them and I think we were ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Gotta feel like we'd be able to develop another Clint Boling. I'm not saying he's trash or anything, but c'mon. Team has to be doing something right to be in this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Trey Hopkins will be the Week 1 starter at left guard. Unless we draft that guy. But I'm with you 100%. Boiling is AVERAGE at BEST, and IMO not the place you want to be dropping 5M/year with all of the holes we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Unless we draft that guy. Roger that, and everything else you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Unless we draft that guy. But I'm with you 100%. Boiling is AVERAGE at BEST, and IMO not the place you want to be dropping 5M/year with all of the holes we have. Another thing to consider is that Zeitler, Smith and Whitworth are all about to hit FA. Tough to pay all 4. If we're going to pay up for 3 of the 4, those are the 3 I'd prefer. Anyway, hopefully the market more like $4M for Boling and we can just keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Another thing to consider is that Zeitler, Smith and Whitworth are all about to hit FA. Tough to pay all 4. If we're going to pay up for 3 of the 4, those are the 3 I'd prefer. Yuppity yup yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Biggest consideration with the way this franchise works is Z at RG. If they are willing to have two decent deals at Guard while also trying to extend two tackles. Awesome. Somehow this franchise always talks as if they can only do this or that. If that is the case, I would rather have Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Another thing to consider is that Zeitler, Smith and Whitworth are all about to hit FA. Tough to pay all 4. If we're going to pay up for 3 of the 4, those are the 3 I'd prefer. Anyway, hopefully the market more like $4M for Boling and we can just keep him. Which is why we are looking at drafting a tackle this year. Boling is a good starter. Solid in pass pro, good at pulling, but not a straight ahead bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I was thinking about all the different options when putting together a Bengals mock draft and one of the things I considered was whether it might make sense to let Boling go if he gets too expensive and put that money they were budgeting for him towards a really top notch DE. One of the top guys on the market. That would take DE off the table as an early round need and make somebody like La'el Collins in the first round a really attractive option. Something like that could theoretically upgrade both the OL and DL. If this is how it played out it would be an A+ offseason for me. Big fan of La'el being in stripes to go along with proven top notch DE. La'el keeps moving up my wish list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBengal Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I have a feeling the Bengals let him walk. Then they draft a tackle-type in the second or third round; start him off at guard and groom him to replace either Andre or Whit in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 How about drafting a quality OT and moving Whit inside? I think it would strengthen the OL and add a few years to Whit's career. Would help both the inside and outside running game, allow deeper, more complete routes and give he-who-shall-not-be-named more time to throw and improve his accuracy. I would even goof on the idea of trading to move up a few slots and grab a really good one if he would start to slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I have a feeling the Bengals let him walk. Then they draft a tackle-type in the second or third round; start him off at guard and groom him to replace either Andre or Whit in a couple of years. There are a couple Mountain Men in this draft that are a bit like Whitworth was coming you. Guys that are getting dinged a little because they are so big rather than so much athletic - but those are guys Alexander has seemed to favor since Levi Jones left. (I'm doing this withoug "wingspan" numbers but): Andrus Peat Donovan Smith Corey Robinson Ereck Flowers Hell, even Trenton Brown... On another note, anyone watch much of Cam Erving when he played LT last year on FSU's national champ team? That guy just checks off all of the boxes imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 How about drafting a quality OT and moving Whit inside? I think it would strengthen the OL and add a few years to Whit's career. Would help both the inside and outside running game, allow deeper, more complete routes and give he-who-shall-not-be-named more time to throw and improve his accuracy. I would even goof on the idea of trading to move up a few slots and grab a really good one if he would start to slide. Good plan. If Collins gets released by Tampa it would be a good insurance policy for this plan. Swing tackle. Possible lt or lg starter if tackle prospect doesn't materialize in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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