53 and Potential Free Agents

[MichaelWeston]

Watching some Browns-Bucs and thinking about who might be on another team now that could improve what is a pretty solid Bengals Roster. Looking at the 53 man I think for me the only 2 spots are DE and K. 

Any thoughts on who might be out there for us to sign?

Kicker Depth Charts

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/PK

DE Depth Charts

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/DE

My 53 looks like

QB	Dalton 2020	McCarron 2017
RB	Hill 2017	Bernard 2019	Burkhead 2016	Peerman 2016
HB	Hewitt 2019
WR	Green 2019	Core 2019
WR	LaFell 2016	Erickson 2016
WR	Boyd 2019	Wright 2017
TE	Eifert 2017	Kroft 2018	Uzomah 2018
LT	Whitworth 2016	Fisher 2018
LG	Boling 2019	Westerman 2019
C	Bodine 2017	Johnson 2016
RG	Zeitler 2016	Hopkins 2016
RT	Ogbouehi 2018	Winston 2016
K	Nugent 2016
P	Huber 2017
LS	Harris 2017
LE	Dunlap 2018	Hunt 2016
LT	Peko 2016	Billings 2019
RT	Atkins 2018	Hardison 2018	Williams 2017
RE	Johnson 2018	Clarke 2017
SLB	Dansby 2016	Dawson 2018
MLB	Maualuga 2017	Vigil 2019
WLB	Rey 2018	Flowers 2017
S	Williams 2020	Smith 2018
S	Iloka 2020	Shaw 2018
CB	Jones 2018	Dennard 2017	Lewis-Harris 2016
CB	Kirkpatrick 2016	Jackson 2019

[TimKrumrieFan]

Only 2 spots on the roster can I see them adding a guy if he becomes available after cut down day. A surprise WR cut or a CB they like if they want to go 6 corners due to Dennard being hurt. Even then I don't see it. People will want our cut players, we aren't going to want other teams.

[PatternMaster]

Tate and Sims are making this team, besides that it looks pretty good to me 

[|High School Harry|]

Wouldn't mind considering a Center.

[TimKrumrieFan]

2 hours ago, PatternMaster said:

Tate and Sims are making this team, besides that it looks pretty good to me 

Definitely. Didn't notice those 2 missing. 0% chance in Sims gets cut. And it is less than 1% chance that Tate gets cut. God I hope Erickson is PS at best. Don't want to waste a roster spot on him.

[happyrid]

Billings will be on IR, so just slid Sims into his spot. 

I don't think they'd have to worry about getting Erickson to the Practice Squad, so I think they will go that route and just keep Tate. 

[-GoBengals-]

a surprise OL could get picked up, but theyd have to be solid and healthy.  which is rare unless its for another teams cost savings. 

[MichaelWeston]

You have to be kidding me on Tate. 

[-GoBengals-]

1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

You have to be kidding me on Tate. 

what in the past 12 years have you seen this team do that makes you think Tate gets cut?

they JUST re-signed him, and he costs NOTHING, and the bengals arent much for chopping cheap, veteran, role players who are familiar to the team/offense/whatever. 

also cant imagine erickson makes our or any roster. PS guy at best.

 

[TimKrumrieFan]

19 hours ago, GoBengals said:

what in the past 12 years have you seen this team do that makes you think Tate gets cut?

they JUST re-signed him, and he costs NOTHING, and the bengals arent much for chopping cheap, veteran, role players who are familiar to the team/offense/whatever. 

also cant imagine erickson makes our or any roster. PS guy at best.

 

Thank God someone else sees it. He's not good. It isn't like he's the rookie Jordan Shipley.

 

I'm still miffed why people hate Tate. He's extremely reliable, he's a good veteran presence, he's cheap on cap and he doesn't fuck up. He doesn't get put on the field to return punts for TDs. He gets put on the field to make smart fair catches, flip our field a little bit and not fumble. When they want to try to house a return Pacman goes out for the punt. Two or three times this preseason one of the young guys dropped back for a punt return and caught a ball way too deep and should have let it go or tried to return and should have fair caught. They do that once in a game and fumble and everyone will be calling for their head.

[happyrid]

2 hours ago, TimKrumrieFan said:

Thank God someone else sees it. He's not good. It isn't like he's the rookie Jordan Shipley.

 

I'm still miffed why people hate Tate. He's extremely reliable, he's a good veteran presence, he's cheap on cap and he doesn't fuck up. He doesn't get put on the field to return punts for TDs. He gets put on the field to make smart fair catches, flip our field a little bit and not fumble. When they want to try to house a return Pacman goes out for the punt. Two or three times this preseason one of the young guys dropped back for a punt return and caught a ball way too deep and should have let it go or tried to return and should have fair caught. They do that once in a game and fumble and everyone will be calling for their head.

Yeah, Tate is a pretty good 5th WR. He's never going to be a star, but he's pretty good at what he does. Decent on returns and seems to make a good number of plays when he's called on in the passing game. Some of this conversation reminds me a little of the one last offseason where some were claiming Denarius Moore was better/more talented than Marvin Jones. 

Erickson reminds me of Dane Sanzenbacher. He's probably one of those guys who is better than the 3rd stringers he's facing in the second half of preseason games, but not a real difference maker when you put him up against NFL starting DBs. I do hope he ends up on the P.S. though because he seems like he could be a reliable guy in a pinch and would be nice to have him around in case of injuries. 

[TimKrumrieFan]

2 hours ago, happyrid said:

Yeah, Tate is a pretty good 5th WR. He's never going to be a star, but he's pretty good at what he does. Decent on returns and seems to make a good number of plays when he's called on in the passing game. Some of this conversation reminds me a little of the one last offseason where some were claiming Denarius Moore was better/more talented than Marvin Jones. 

Erickson reminds me of Dane Sanzenbacher. He's probably one of those guys who is better than the 3rd stringers he's facing in the second half of preseason games, but not a real difference maker when you put him up against NFL starting DBs. I do hope he ends up on the P.S. though because he seems like he could be a reliable guy in a pinch and would be nice to have him around in case of injuries. 

I've been trying to think of his comparison but couldn't for the life of me come up with one. This is PERFECT. I agree with all of it including PS to join Russell and Simione. Can't see either of them being able to help in a pinch but they have much more potential where as Erickson could possibly give them a few snaps in a pinch if something is planned.

[MichaelWeston]

Tate is terrible.

[jhowdy54]

we need to find a decent pass rusher. I would say that DE is at the top of our board next year so why not make an offer to SD for Bosa.

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[|kennethmw|]

Erickson turns up every time he's on the field.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him make the 53.

[MichaelWeston]

9 hours ago, happyrid said:

Yeah, Tate is a pretty good 5th WR. He's never going to be a star, but he's pretty good at what he does. Decent on returns and seems to make a good number of plays when he's called on in the passing game. Some of this conversation reminds me a little of the one last offseason where some were claiming Denarius Moore was better/more talented than Marvin Jones. 

Erickson reminds me of Dane Sanzenbacher. He's probably one of those guys who is better than the 3rd stringers he's facing in the second half of preseason games, but not a real difference maker when you put him up against NFL starting DBs. I do hope he ends up on the P.S. though because he seems like he could be a reliable guy in a pinch and would be nice to have him around in case of injuries. 

Caught 2 passes last year and is terrible at returns. 

[Jason]

I've been saying since the Vikings game Erickson has a chance to make the team.  Now he almost has to.

[Jason]

My question now is is Carson or Hill 2 the 4th back?

[Steve4192]

Regarding FA pickups, I could see the Bengals pouncing on a few of their former practice squad guys if they get cut.

 

Terrell Watson appears to have the inside track on the final RB spot in Cleveland, but if he doesn't make it, I could see the Bengals picking him up to take Peerman's spot on the roster.  James Wilder Jr appears to be on the wrong side of the roster math in Buffalo, so if Watson isn't available, Wilder might be the consolation prize.

 

Troy Hill is considered a long-shot to make the Rams roster, and IMO he would be a massive upgrade over the guys the Bengals are looking at for the 6th CB role (Brown, Hillary, McRae). 

[Steve4192]

Regarding Erickson, I was skeptical initially, but he convinced me last night.  I thought his 80 yarder in the first preseason game was a fluke due to bad tackling, but every time he touches the ball he seems to be getting chunks of yardage.  It's not a one-time thing.  He keeps on breaking tackles and making the first guy miss.  He looks like a legit returner to me, and he also looks like he can provide some value at WR. 

[TimKrumrieFan]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

My question now is is Carson or Hill 2 the 4th back?

I think they go vet FA or Erickson just made the team as a 7th WR with Pperman out.

[TimKrumrieFan]

30 minutes ago, Steve4192 said:

Regarding Erickson, I was skeptical initially, but he convinced me last night.  I thought his 80 yarder in the first preseason game was a fluke due to bad tackling, but every time he touches the ball he seems to be getting chunks of yardage.  It's not a one-time thing.  He keeps on breaking tackles and making the first guy miss.  He looks like a legit returner to me, and he also looks like he can provide some value at WR. 

I've been skeptical too. I still am but he did some things against players who weren't just 4th stringers yesterday. That plus Peerman going down I think he makes it now. He did fuck up the one punt return and let it bounce when he very easily should have caught it. You can be as exciting as you want returning but you better make the smart decisions on punts too or Simmons/Lewis won't let you return.

[|Dr Tarzan|]

2 hours ago, TimKrumrieFan said:

I've been skeptical too. I still am but he did some things against players who weren't just 4th stringers yesterday. That plus Peerman going down I think he makes it now. He did fuck up the one punt return and let it bounce when he very easily should have caught it. You can be as exciting as you want returning but you better make the smart decisions on punts too or Simmons/Lewis won't let you return.

I agree he should have fair caught that short punt, but I believe I will give him a pass.  Those 'tweener' punt can be tricky, if you don't get under it in time you may need to make a circus catch or it may  be too late to tail off and avoid it...a funny bounce can hit you and make it a live ball.  I've seen plenty of experienced players make the same decision to let it bounce, it was the safe play.

Other than that Mr Erickson has been pretty flawless, he has proven practically every time he touches the ball to me more elusive and stronger/harder to bring down than he looks.... doing North-South and not sideline to sideline.    It's one of those skills that can't be taught, God-given, ...ya got it or ya don't.

That said, I wish it was with stiffer competition.

I think the Sanzenbacher comparison is pretty spot on.  He wasn't worthless as he made some clutch catches here and there, but he definitely wasn't an every play threat.  I think just because there is a paucity of veteran presence at WR, there is just no way they part ways with Tate....again...this year.

[Steve4192]

1 hour ago, Dr Tarzan said:

That said, I wish it was with stiffer competition.

 

 

He was making plays against the Jags 1s and 2s last night.

[jhowdy54]

paul Kruger just released by the Browns. Could give us a big boost at the DE spot as a pass rush specialist.

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