|High School Harry| Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Paste to other thread but thought it deserved special attention... thanks CINCINNATI -- Bengals coach Marvin Lewis says he believes Vontaze Burfict is being scrutinized because of his history and that the linebacker did not stomp on New England Patriots running back LeGarrette Blount. According to a league source, Burfict was fined $75,000 by the NFL for his actions in Sunday's game against the Patriots and has appealed. "I don't think he did anything wrong," Lewis said. "We were not in the wrong here, in my opinion. And it's unfortunate. That's what I have told and stood on and will continue to." Lewis spent part of his Monday news conference defending Burfict for a low hit on Patriots tight end Martellus Bennett, saying he was reacting to a pump fake by Tom Brady. Burfict was not flagged for the hit. The Bengals coach said he watched the video of the alleged stomp several times, and Burfict was not in the wrong.? "I don't think he meant to do anything. And I've been through it back and forth as big as this board behind me," Lewis said. "Hell if I can see who steps where or whatever. I see him try to step through [the pile] and try to go help [a] teammate. ... Someone from another team has a hand on his teammate's face mask, pushing him in the face, and that's what he's trying to get to. But that doesn't matter -- it's done. We'll move on and things will happen the way they happen." Lewis said he believes Burfict is essentially under a microscrope because of his history. Burfict began the season on a three-game suspension for violations of player safety and has been fined eight times -- totaling $279,329 -- for on-field incidents. "That's a thing he knows. He's got to realize all the time so it's not the national furor all the time," Lewis said. "Just play football and our guys aren't going to talk about it, as I've instructed. If anybody has any questions, they can talk to me about it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Yep, they are fining him because they think he did something wrong, while gronk and blunt get zero fines, for actual offenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 38 minutes ago, turningpoint said: Yep, they are fining him because they think he did something wrong, while gronk and blunt get zero fines, for actual offenses? Good ol' Pat-rioot footbawwwl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 50 minutes ago, turningpoint said: Yep, they are fining him because they think he did something wrong, while gronk and blunt get zero fines, for actual offenses? But Edelman was the one who was fined for his face mask that wasn't flagged on Dre K. It all makes zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I hope he appeals.... I mean for christ sake he did less than Mike Munchak when he grabbed Nelson's hair, and got fined, then appealed and it got dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esjbh2 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Perception equals reality in today's media hyped NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBaron Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 The NFL is a fraud. This absoltuly needs to be overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 12 hours ago, Jamie_B said: I hope he appeals.... I mean for christ sake he did less than Mike Munchak when he grabbed Nelson's hair, and got fined, then appealed and it got dropped. That's exactly what I've been yelling about. Why do you think that shit happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 13 hours ago, esjbh2 said: Perception equals reality in today's media hyped NFL. They were all over him on M&M on ESPN this morning. Both "Greeny" and Golic were SHOCKED he wasn't suspended and Schlereth was of the believe he needed to be kicked out for an extended period of time. For basically doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, T-Dub said: That's exactly what I've been yelling about. Why do you think that shit happens? Burfict's history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'm a Bengals fan, but this is some serious rose colored glasses crap. Burfict went low on Bennett and knew what he was doing. He stepped on Blount's leg and knew what he was doing. Burfict get's what he's earned. Burfict also went down like a sissy boy when Blount pushed him. He drew the unsportsmanlike, but at that point who cares. Frankly, I could care less about the fines/suspensions to Blount, Gronk, or whoever. Worry about yourself. Control yourself. Don't put yourself in those situations. Excuses. If any of you have kids I hope you don't accept that crap from them either. Mike and Mike are outraged over everything. I have no idea whey anyone listens to them. Burfict is who he is...a talented LB that can't control himself on the field. At this point he's a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 27 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Burfict's history Mike Munchak had his fine for pulling Nelson's hair thrown out because.. Burfict's history? K.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPaw Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 50 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Burfict's history correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPaw Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 36 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: I'm a Bengals fan, but this is some serious rose colored glasses crap. Burfict went low on Bennett and knew what he was doing. He stepped on Blount's leg and knew what he was doing. Burfict get's what he's earned. Burfict also went down like a sissy boy when Blount pushed him. He drew the unsportsmanlike, but at that point who cares. Frankly, I could care less about the fines/suspensions to Blount, Gronk, or whoever. Worry about yourself. Control yourself. Don't put yourself in those situations. Excuses. If any of you have kids I hope you don't accept that crap from them either. Mike and Mike are outraged over everything. I have no idea whey anyone listens to them. Burfict is who he is...a talented LB that can't control himself on the field. At this point he's a liability. Correct...and correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Yes let's get rid of our best defensive player because the NFL says he's a big meanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: Yes let's get rid of our best defensive player because the NFL says he's a big meanie Yeah, the defense has been so much better since he returned. I would rather Burfict stop this crap, but if he wont..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, UncleEarl said: Yeah, the defense has been so much better since he returned. I would rather Burfict stop this crap, but if he wont..... Well by that metric we should shitcan the entire roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: Mike Munchak had his fine for pulling Nelson's hair thrown out because.. Burfict's history? K.. We both know that's not what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: We both know that's not what I was saying. I guess I'm not sure what you are saying then. I asked why you thought a coach blatantly pulling a player's hair on the sideline was at first fined, then reversed on appeal. Or why the ref decided to pocket the flag after watching Blount try to gouge out someone's eyes. Neither of these plays involved Burfict in any way. Though if you want to talk Burfict, why was a Stooler player allowed to publicly post death threats without any sort of disciplinary action? What do you think would've happened if, say, Josh Shaw tweeted that he was going to shoot Mike Mitchell on sight? I have a hard time believing it would've been ignored. For the sake of simplicity: Do you think Goodell's conduct policy is enforced evenly and fairly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphead Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 The only problem is there is video evidence of Burfict not viciously stomping or even stepping on anyones leg. Not Blounts leg, not Ron Jeremy's 3rd leg, not Nancy Kerrigan's leg, not Barbaro's leg, not anyone's leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, UncleEarl said: I'm a Bengals fan, but this is some serious rose colored glasses crap. Burfict went low on Bennett and knew what he was doing. He stepped on Blount's leg and knew what he was doing. Burfict get's what he's earned. Burfict also went down like a sissy boy when Blount pushed him. He drew the unsportsmanlike, but at that point who cares. Frankly, I could care less about the fines/suspensions to Blount, Gronk, or whoever. Worry about yourself. Control yourself. Don't put yourself in those situations. Excuses. If any of you have kids I hope you don't accept that crap from them either. Mike and Mike are outraged over everything. I have no idea whey anyone listens to them. Burfict is who he is...a talented LB that can't control himself on the field. At this point he's a liability. the bennett "hit" was perfectly legal and he got nothing for it as such. he didnt stomp on a god damn thing. and i dont see any angle that shows him stepping on anyone, i see him stepping through a pile, and as marv mentioned the patriots guy had his hand in our guys facemask smashing his face down... and burfect was attempting to end that situation... and as others have pointed out, others have done worse and walked with no punishment. how is that rose colored glasses? its factual, others have done worse, and got nothing. seems you have your own burfict hating agenda, you bring up perfectly legal plays as reasons he "cant control himself"... how is that an unbiased point of view exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPaw Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: We both know that's not what I was saying. correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 52 minutes ago, T-Dub said: I guess I'm not sure what you are saying then. I asked why you thought a coach blatantly pulling a player's hair on the sideline was at first fined, then reversed on appeal. Or why the ref decided to pocket the flag after watching Blount try to gouge out someone's eyes. Neither of these plays involved Burfict in any way. Though if you want to talk Burfict, why was a Stooler player allowed to publicly post death threats without any sort of disciplinary action? What do you think would've happened if, say, Josh Shaw tweeted that he was going to shoot Mike Mitchell on sight? I have a hard time believing it would've been ignored. For the sake of simplicity: Do you think Goodell's conduct policy is enforced evenly and fairly? I think that because of Bufict's history he is going to be under more scrutiny. I think given the evidence this fine is unwarranted and he should appeal it, but I also think he's going to have to have to do more to overcome his history and because of that history he's not going to get things let go like others might who don't have that history. Thus I think this incident an individual incident is far less than what Munchack did, but on the whole it's not and it is after all the whole that got him suspended in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Jamie_B said: I think that because of Bufict's history he is going to be under more scrutiny. I think given the evidence this fine is unwarranted and he should appeal it, but I also think he's going to have to have to do more to overcome his history and because of that history he's not going to get things let go like others might who don't have that history. Thus I think this incident an individual incident is far less than what Munchack did, but on the whole it's not and it is after all the whole that got him suspended in the first place. Jebus take the wheel... Can you see why I'm maybe a bit confused? Burfict's history controls Goodell's conduct policy? Burfict's history made the ref pick up a flag for eye gouging a different player? I mean.. Did Burfict's history also cause the Irish Potato Famine? And how is Burfict supposed to "overcome his history" when he's being fined for shit he didn't even do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 38 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Jebus take the wheel... Can you see why I'm maybe a bit confused? Burfict's history controls Goodell's conduct policy? Burfict's history made the ref pick up a flag for eye gouging a different player? I mean.. Did Burfict's history also cause the Irish Potato Famine? And how is Burfict supposed to "overcome his history" when he's being fined for shit he didn't even do? No. I don't see why you're confused at all, I am having a bit of trouble seeing why you are being naive about this however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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