|High School Harry| Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/12/3/13772784/too-early-to-worry-about-cedric-ogbuehi Too early to worry about Cedric Ogbuehi? Bengals right tackle Ogbuehi has struggled this year, but is it too soon to jettison hope? by Scott Schulze Dec 3, 2016, 2:00pm EST After spending six seasons with the Texans, Eric Winston was released by the team with years remaining on his contract. He was signed a few days later by the Chiefs to a four year deal, only to be cut after one season. He was then signed by the Cardinals on a one year deal for the 2013 season. The Cardinals did not try to re-sign him, and in 2014 he signed a one year deal with the Seahawks, only to be cut before the season began. After spending much of the 2014 season unsigned, the Bengals added him to the roster as a backup, who ended up proving reliable due to injuries to Andre Smith. He drew little interest after the 2014 season, and the Bengals brought him back on a one year deal for the 2015 season. Before the 2016 season, the pattern repeated, as the Bengals brought him back on another one year deal as a backup. In the two and a half years before signing with the Bengals, Winston was released three times, and bounced around between four different teams. Basically, he was not very highly regarded, and had trouble proving his worth. So what does this all have to do with Cedric Ogbuehi? Well, this 33-year-old journeyman is the player who is pushing Ogbuehi out of his starting job at right tackle. After playing 100% of the offensive snaps in the Bengals’ first five games of the 2016 regular season, Ogbuehi has seen his snap counts drop significantly. Since Week 5, Ogbuehi has played roughly half of the offensive snaps, with Winston replacing him on the other half of the snaps. If Winston was a young, emerging player, unseating an aging veteran, the shift in snap counts would perhaps make sense. Unfortunately, the situation is the exact opposite. It’s the aging veteran who is unseating the young second year tackle who is supposed to be the emerging talent, and was a 2015 first round pick. But, the young tackle has flaws and the Bengals are now seeing them first hand. NFL.com’s draft analysis of Ogbuehi, said he “was one of the SEC leaders in sacks allowed in 2014”, and mentioned “NFL evaluators are very worried about Ogbuehi’s core strength and ability to anchor in pass protection”. CBSsports.com’s draft analysis pointed out poor blocking technique which left him off balance, and a tendency to catch pass rushers instead of punching. They also considered him vulnerable to swim moves as well. Also, Ogbuehi was moved from left tackle to right tackle during his final season at Texas A&M due to his struggles, and inconsistent play against collegiate competition. And we used a first round pick on this guy? These prospect evaluations seem to match well with what we have seen with Ogbuehi this season, as he has struggled in pass protection, and has seemingly struggled with strength against defensive linemen. He was a player drafted because the team felt there was projectable upside to his game, and not based on being a dominant player at the college level. But at some point, one has to stop hoping for potential to be realized and just admit that there is questionable upside. So it begs the question: with Ogbuehi’s weaknesses, which plagued him in college, and still seem to be present in his second year as a pro, can be overcome the issues, or is he as good as he will be? The Bengals are hoping he turns the corner and becomes the player they were hoping he would be, but what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sort of derogatory as to Winston...dude was a Pro Bowl quality tackle for a lot of years. Like I said in another thread: see if he can add weight and strength during the off season and try again. Ced really had the skills at A&M...even with the pass pro concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: Sort of derogatory as to Winston...dude was a Pro Bowl quality tackle for a lot of years. Like I said in another thread: see if he can add weight and strength during the off season and try again. Ced really had the skills at A&M...even with the pass pro concerns. I remember watching him college at A&M before he got hurt and wasn't very impressed with him, despite the hype. He needs more than to add some strength, he needs a lot of help with his technique as well. A&M has produced some big time bust at OT in the recent years, Luke Joeckel is huge bust considering his draft status and Jake Matthews is playing better but has not been very good until this season. As for Ced it sounds like he's never been a dominant player and he keeps getting the benefit of the doubt because coaches feel like they can turn him into an All-Pro HOF'er. If these coaches could check their ego and view Cedric for what he is I don't think he would be playing as much as he has been playing. Imo, he should be a backup at best and it was a waste of a first round pick on this guy, but hopefully I'll be proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75North Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Lapham's thoughts on Ced with Lance: http://espn1530.iheart.com/onair/lance-mcalister-7818/listen-lap-on-issues-for-ogbuehi-15363121/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Cedric was the 1 player i didnt want at all in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted December 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 28 minutes ago, 75North said: Lapham's thoughts on Ced with Lance: http://espn1530.iheart.com/onair/lance-mcalister-7818/listen-lap-on-issues-for-ogbuehi-15363121/ Great listen... "Forrest Greg would have benched him in the first game. FG would have said 'you sit, you play, you stink'". Kind of a backhand swipe at... you-know-who. Lap's comments on its being Bodine's best game were good, too. Really have to hope it wasn't a flash in the pan, one hit wonder game for Jethro. Good catch and thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 51 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: I remember watching him college at A&M before he got hurt and wasn't very impressed with him, despite the hype. He needs more than to add some strength, he needs a lot of help with his technique as well. A&M has produced some big time bust at OT in the recent years, Luke Joeckel is huge bust considering his draft status and Jake Matthews is playing better but has not been very good until this season. As for Ced it sounds like he's never been a dominant player and he keeps getting the benefit of the doubt because coaches feel like they can turn him into an All-Pro HOF'er. If these coaches could check their ego and view Cedric for what he is I don't think he would be playing as much as he has been playing. Imo, he should be a backup at best and it was a waste of a first round pick on this guy, but hopefully I'll be proven wrong. Check the latest depth chart. That's where they have him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Funny I was abit suspicious why he had been playing at RT coz he's only 307 lbs. So I always thought he should be tried at LT. Go figure, I read today that they're finally trying him at LT. Bit late in the day coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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