LostInDaJungle Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, spicoli said: lol running a 4.5 at 240lbs is the equivalent of a 185lb player running a 4.25....so I'm not really sure where the problem lies in that 40 time. also, all you have to do is watch his tape to see that he absolutely does have an "elite" burst. keep in mind as well, he'll likely be playing at 230... Chill dude... People were expecting Bo Jackson/Adrian Peterson out of the kid. He didn't live up to THAT lofty standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 19 hours ago, High School Harry said: Food for thought.... I'M licking this guy a lot but not a snowball's chance in Hell he's there at 9. He might not even be there at 6. Cook, however, ain't too shabby. I don't care about your personal life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, LostInDaJungle said: Chill dude... I am "chill" .........Bo Jackson/AP were 20lbs lighter than Fournette was, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 NFL Research @NFLResearch: Based on the combine, Leonard Fournette has: - Same weight as Clay Matthews - Same burst as Percy Harvin - Same speed as Jordy Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Madieu Superstar said: This is ridiculous. They pick at 9. There are premium players available. I clearly said "o-lineman" , I wasn't talking about any other position group. obviously other elite players will be there....no o-lineman fit that description in this draft however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 20 hours ago, Jpoore said: 28 inch vert? how you likin' that big 32in vert from Mike Williams this morn? just think, he's only 25lbs lighter than Fournette... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Jason said: I don't care about your personal life. Note to Self: Never post when you are hurrying or before the coffee kicks in. Where's spell check when you need it. And you're the one who gets hammered for spelling...? (whatever happened to ?, anyway?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 how about a 4.22 for John Ross.....WOW! 4.31 for Curtis Samual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, spicoli said: how about a 4.22 for John Ross..... That's the equivalent of 7.5 if he was 400 lbs. Unimpressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 6 hours ago, akiliMVP said: I was only including the top 3 I highlighted. Not a fan of McCaffrey. He's a 3rd down back or KR only. And he can't pass block. Shane Vereen type of player. McCarffrey will be one of the first 3 RB's off the board, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 hours ago, spicoli said: McCarffrey will be one of the first 3 RB's off the board, IMO I am guessing 4th. Talent wise Mixon is above him but obviously he won't go first. I think Fournette, Cook and Kamara go before McCaffrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, akiliMVP said: I am guessing 4th. Talent wise Mixon is above him but obviously he won't go first. I think Fournette, Cook and Kamara go before McCaffrey. you might be right. here's my question though (not necessarily directed at you) ...why do people like Dalvin cook so much but not Christain McCaffrey? .....same size, same production against top notch talent, McCaffery is actually a little quicker with better hands...I don't get it. White RB bias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpoore Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 how you likin' that big 32in vert from Mike Williams this morn? just think, he's only 25lbs lighter than Fournette...Lol yeah that was bad... He definitely has a higher vert than that. Juat based off of game tape. Interested to see his pro day. Get the feeling he was playing threw something as he didnt participate in any of the agility drills or 40 time.cant wait to see davis and williams pro day for that matter. Davis keeps growing on me for some reason. On another note, speedy noles? Listed almost a 4ft vert? Sent from my 2PYB2 using Go-Bengals.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpoore Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 I was only including the top 3 I highlighted. Not a fan of McCaffrey. He's a 3rd down back or KR only. And he can't pass block. Shane Vereen type of player.Ur not serious right? A lot of his yardage was between the tackles Sent from my 2PYB2 using Go-Bengals.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpoore Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 you might be right. here's my question though (not necessarily directed at you) ...why do people like Dalvin cook so much but not Christain McCaffrey? .....same size, same production against top notch talent, McCaffery is actually a little quicker with better hands...I don't get it. White RB bias?Yes. He has mentioned as much as well. Sent from my 2PYB2 using Go-Bengals.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMinich Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 RB won't matter if they don't fix the oline Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Part of the Oline fix will be experience. I know that for some of you, no one ever gets better, but I expect O and Fish to both be better with a full off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 10 hours ago, Jpoore said: Ur not serious right? A lot of his yardage was between the tackles Sent from my 2PYB2 using Go-Bengals.com mobile app Yes. Read every scouting report. He's thin. He won't be a between the tackles guy in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, akiliMVP said: Yes. Read every scouting report. He's thin. He won't be a between the tackles guy in the NFL. what's the difference between him and Cook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 hours ago, CoachMinich said: RB won't matter if they don't fix the oline that's just not gonna happen in the first round......1) the talent just isn't there 2) they're not giving up on Ogbuehi and Fisher after just a few starts apiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, spicoli said: what's the difference between him and Cook? Cook is 2 inches shorter and 10 lbs heavier. He is thicker and more compact. He is by no means a good inside runner either. His body type and strength is better which could help make him better at it. McCaffrey looks thin to me. He is not a power back by any stretch. He's cut but not thick. 10 reps of 225 is pathetic. He is a great athlete no doubt. Very quick feet. Good vision. Have a hard time seeing him be an every down back at his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, akiliMVP said: Have a hard time seeing him be an every down back at his size. luckily for him, his versatility means he doesn't have to be. if a team can get him 15 touches a game (catches/carries) on offense plus punt/kick returns, he'll absolutely produce at a very high level provided he stays healthy....he's just an elite all-around player with the best feet I've ever seen from a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMinich Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 that's just not gonna happen in the first round......1) the talent just isn't there 2) they're not giving up on Ogbuehi and Fisher after just a few starts apiece. You are absolutely right, but also have need inside particularly if we lose Zeitler and Whitworth (played guard too)Pocic and Dorian Johnson possibilities in 2nd and maybe 3rd I'd like to see pass rusher in 1st Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, CoachMinich said: You are absolutely right, but also have need inside particularly if we lose Zeitler and Whitworth (played guard too) Pocic and Dorian Johnson possibilities in 2nd and maybe 3rd I'd like to see pass rusher in 1st Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk yeah I think they'll load up on the interior in the middle rounds of this draft, I really do. I'd like to see a pass rusher at 9 as well but probably wouldn't complain about one of Lattimore, Hooker, Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMinich Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Part of the Oline fix will be experience. I know that for some of you, no one ever gets better, but I expect O and Fish to both be better with a full off-season. But group gets worse if they lose top two playersSent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.