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[quote]Here's the schedule (Sorry for not linking to the official NFL site, but superbowl.com seems to be down at the moment): -- 7 p.m. Sunday, Super Bowl XL (stealers-Seahawks) from ABC (Al Michaels, John Madden). This was last year's game, of course. -- 3 p.m. Jan. 15, Super Bowl XXXII (Broncos-Packers) from NBC (Dick Enberg, Paul Maguire and Phil Simms). This was NBC's last game before losing the NFL for seven years. -- 7 p.m. Jan. 15, Super Bowl XXII (Redskins-Broncos) from ABC (Al Michaels, Frank Gifford and Dan Dierdorf). This is the Doug Williams game. -- 7 p.m. Jan. 18, Super Bowl XXXVI (Patriots-Rams) from Fox (Pat Summerall, John Madden). This was the post-9/11 game. -- 7:30 p.m. Jan. 22, Super Bowl XIII (stealers-Cowboys) from NBC (Curt Gowdy, John Brodie and Merlin Olsen). Sorry, but Benny Barnes still gets called for pass interference. -- 7 p.m. Jan. 25, Super Bowl XXXIV (Rams-Titans) from ABC (Al Michaels, Boomer Esiason). The "longest yard" finish. -- 7:30 p.m. Feb. 1, Super Bowl XXV (Giants-Bills) from ABC (Al Michaels, Frank Gifford, Dan Dierdorf). Remembered for Whitney Houston's anthem and Scott Norwood's miss. -- 10 a.m. Feb. 3, Super Bowl XXXVIII (Patriots-Panthers) from CBS (Greg Gumbel, Phil Simms). I'm betting they don't show all the halftime show of this one from Reliant Stadium. -- [b]3 p.m. Feb. 3, Super Bowl XXIII (49ers-Bengals) from NBC (Dick Enberg, Merlin Olsen). This is the one where Joe Montana loosened up his teammates before the final drive by pointing out John Candy in the stands.[/b] -- 7 p.m. Feb. 3, Super Bowl III (Jets-Colts) from NBC (Curt Gowdy, Al DeRogatis and Kyle Rote). The classic Joe Namath game and the oldest Super Bowl tape in the networks' possession. I'm betting they don't air the postgame outtake where Curt Gowdy calls out Sports Illustrated writer Tex Maule for picking the Colts in a romp.[/quote]


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[quote name='sm00th_kw' post='424586' date='Jan 10 2007, 10:09 AM']Is it the whole game?[/quote]



Yeah, I`m pretty sure.

It says they bet they won`t show the Half time show from the Panthers-Patriots Super Bowl.
That was when Miss Jackson (cause I`m nasty) had her "wardrobe malfunction"...

So it sounds like they`re going to show the entire games.
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Man, I still have the original that I recorded as it happened, and still haven't watched it. I can't even watch when they show Super Bowl highlights. Some day I'll dig it out of the cedar chest and watch it. Of course, VCR's will be obsolete by then.
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[quote name='oldschooler' post='424630' date='Jan 10 2007, 12:16 PM']Yeah, I`m pretty sure.

It says they bet they won`t show the Half time show from the Panthers-Patriots Super Bowl.
That was when Miss Jackson (cause I`m nasty) had her "wardrobe malfunction"...

So it sounds like they`re going to show the entire games.[/quote]



That's cool...I'd like to see it just because I was just beginning my sports fandom that year (as explained in an earlier thread) and remember it, but just not well enough.

I'd like to see it again, but I've never been able to...besides the half hour Super Bowl shows.

I still get chills when I hear the call of Stanford's TD kickoff return. Very cool.
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[quote name='Harmening' post='424646' date='Jan 10 2007, 12:32 PM']Man, I still have the original that I recorded as it happened, and still haven't watched it. I can't even watch when they show Super Bowl highlights. Some day I'll dig it out of the cedar chest and watch it. Of course, VCR's will be obsolete by then.[/quote]

VCR's are already obsolete :)

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Cool ---------- I'll check it out. Win or lose those were our glory days. Two SB's in the 80's !!!

Besides, I have never seen either of our two SB games on TV because -------- [size=5]I WAS THERE !!!!!!!![/size] :headbang: :thumbsup:

SB 16 at the Silverdome. Nothing to do in Detroit when it's -20 degrees outside.
SB 23 at Joe Robie. Excellant weather ----- except the rain all night before the game. Never rained another day that week but soaked the field all night long.

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EVERY BENGAL FAN: PLEASE WATCH AND TAKE NOTE.....

Lewis Billups missed interception would not have sealed the game. It didn't happen late in the 4th quarter right before the 9ers scored the winning touchdown. Promise. Already won serveral houses in bets, although nobody has paid off yet.
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I haven't posted much here, if at all, so I hesitate to butt in, but...

oldschooler, after reading and re-reading the list of games and times, it looks like you highlighted the Bengals game but the starting time for the Jets-Colts game. I'd hate for some to just take a quick look and show up with remote in hand at 7:00pm if the game is being shown at 3:00pm and be disappointed.

Am I reading that right?
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[color="#FF0000"][b]Anyway, even though the end of the game is still painful some 20 years later, I will still watch it.
It was the last time the Bengals were in the Super Bowl and overall they played well enough to win.
The game was ours until that final drive. We lost to a dynasty, look how many HOF'ers and potential
HOF'ers that was on that 49'er team.

There was no shame or dishonor with the way we lost that game. It was a heart breaker but the
Bengals represented in that game. I recommend that the younger people watch it, so they can see
how it was when the Bengals were glorious.

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[quote name='Jungle Jim' post='427621' date='Jan 16 2007, 07:03 AM']I haven't posted much here, if at all, so I hesitate to butt in, but...

oldschooler, after reading and re-reading the list of games and times, it looks like you highlighted the Bengals game but the starting time for the Jets-Colts game. I'd hate for some to just take a quick look and show up with remote in hand at 7:00pm if the game is being shown at 3:00pm and be disappointed.

Am I reading that right?[/quote]


Oooopps. It appears you are right. I edited the original post. It looks like the game starts at 3:00 pm.

You have 1 post in over a year ! :o

Welcome to the Best Bengals Site on the Net ! :headbang:
And thanks for bringing my error to my attention...

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Are there any plans to show Superbowl 16?

That's the one that will make you sick. Superbowl 23 was a tough loss, but they went into that game huge underdogs to the 9ers and played well after losing key players.

Superbowl 16 was just a cluster fuck by the best team this franchise has ever had (if you want to discount 1975). That game, they should have had it.
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[quote name='scharm' post='427751' date='Jan 16 2007, 12:33 PM']Are there any plans to show Superbowl 16?

That's the one that will make you sick. Superbowl 23 was a tough loss, but they went into that game huge underdogs to the 9ers and played well after losing key players.

Superbowl 16 was just a cluster fuck by the best team this franchise has ever had (if you want to discount 1975). That game, they should have had it.[/quote]
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Agreed.

This past summer someone on Youtube posted SuperBowl 16 in seven 10 minute segments. It was my first time
watching the actual game footage since 1982, I was only 9 years old then. But your right, they had so many chances
to beat the Niners, it was sickening. I was able to burn it on disc before the powers that be at Youtube took it down because
of copyrights. The quality isn't great but it's watchable.[/b][/color]
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[quote name='oldschooler' post='427673' date='Jan 16 2007, 10:09 AM']Oooopps. It appears you are right. I edited the original post. It looks like the game starts at 3:00 pm.

You have 1 post in over a year ! :o

Welcome to the Best Bengals Site on the Net ! :headbang:
And thanks for bringing my error to my attention...[/quote]

LOL Thanks!

I joined and then got busy and didn't spend as much time online. I guess I then forgot all about joining. I found this site bookmarked and have been reading since the last couple of weeks of the season. I won't wait another year before posting.

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[quote name='cwing' post='425226' date='Jan 11 2007, 04:36 AM']Cool ---------- I'll check it out. Win or lose those were our glory days. Two SB's in the 80's !!!

Besides, I have never seen either of our two SB games on TV because -------- [size=5]I WAS THERE !!!!!!!![/size] :headbang: :thumbsup:

SB 16 at the Silverdome. Nothing to do in Detroit when it's -20 degrees outside.
SB 23 at Joe Robie. Excellant weather ----- except the rain all night before the game. Never rained another day that week but soaked the field all night long.[/quote]

Same here...for both. XXIII was much more painful though...and the drive home a helluva lot longer.

They should have the SB in Miami every year...it is by far and away the tops in my opinion. Except for the final minutes of the 4th quarter...I had an absolute blast the entire week down there.

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[quote][size=5][b]Memorable Moments | Super Bowl XXIII[/b][/size]
BY SARAH ROTHSCHILD
srothschild@MiamiHerald.com

FILE PHOTOSAN FRANCISCO 20, CINCINNATI 16

• Jan. 22, 1989

• Dolphin Stadium, Miami

• MVP: Jerry Rice, WR, San Francisco

Days before the game, players preparing to compete in the Super Bowl struggled to cope as riots broke out in Overtown and Liberty City. A policeman shot and killed a speeding black motorcyclist on Jan. 16, and the passenger on motorcycle died a day later.

The Bengals who stayed at the Omni International downtown, about a half dozen blocks from Overtown, could see fires from their rooms and were cautioned not to leave the hotel.

Cincinnati quarterback Boomer Esiason said, 'What's going on out there is life. It makes you ask yourself, `What does football really matter?' ''

In addition to questions about the game, players were asked about the morality of the NFL shielding its players from the violence rather than using the Super Bowl to try to quell the riots.

Bengals guard Max Montoya preferred players not interject themselves into the uproar. ''It's not the place for the NFL or its players,'' Montoya told reporters. ``It's a deeply rooted problem for the city, a lot deeper than football.''

Five days before the Super Bowl, following a trip to the theater, Cincinnati Bengals defensive back Solomon Wilcots said: ``A bunch of us went to see Mississippi Burning and came back to see Miami burning.''

Two days before kickoff, vendors began selling T-shirts with the slogan: ``I survived Miami '89: It was a riot.''[/quote]


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[quote][size=5][b]Super Bowl not so super for Bengals back in ’89[/b][/size]
Monday, January 29, 2007
Hal Habib
COX NEWS SERVICE

San Francisco quarterback Joe Montana, left, clasps hands with receiver John Taylor after Montana’s pass to Taylor beat Cincinnati 20-16 in 1989.



WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — This was the stolen Super Bowl. Stolen from the city of Miami, which spent as much time fretting that week in 1989 as it did celebrating, because it’s difficult to throw a party when a mob is throwing rocks and bottles and burning cars.

Stolen from Stanley Wilson. Or by him. Wilson, a Cincinnati Bengals running back, never got a chance to beat the San Francisco 49 ers that Sunday night because he couldn’t beat his cocaine addiction on Saturday night, forever making Room 2211 at the Plantation Holiday Inn a notorious piece of Super Bowl trivia. Even in his haze, Wilson might have sensed the magnitude of his mistake, crying to coach Sam Wyche, "Sam, I’m so sorry, I’m sorry."

Stolen from all of us, because as dramatic as the game was, coming down to a Joe Montana touchdown pass to John Taylor with 34 seconds left, no one will ever know if Wilson could have made a difference on a sloppy field suited to his style.

Six days before south Florida plays host to its ninth Super Bowl, however, it’s a good bet the week will bear little resemblance to the time Miami welcomed its sixth title game.

[b]A time of chaos [/b]


Instead of looking forward to the game, the Bengals gathered, in disbelief, on the balconies of their first hotel, in downtown Miami.

"A long field goal away," as Bengals kicker Jim Breech described it, rioting had broken out after William Lozano, a white off-duty police officer, fatally shot a fleeing black motorcyclist, Clement Lloyd, on Martin Luther King Day, the Monday before the Super Bowl.

Within hours, more than 1,000 officers were unable to regain control in predominantly black Overtown. By Tuesday night, eight people were confirmed shot, one fatally, and more than 230 arrests had been made.

"We were watching the movie Mississippi Burning, and when I came out, everyone was scurrying about," said Solomon Wilcots, a Bengals cornerback who will be a sideline reporter for CBS this Sunday. "I thought it was eerie. I said, ‘Man, I just came out of Mississippi Burning and came to see Miami burning.’ "

In a time of Crockett and Tubbs, one motorist on I-95 saw what looked like a riot and thought, "Maybe they’re filming Miami Vice." Then a bottle flew through his window. Incidents like that received national attention from sports reporters who expected to be writing about football.

Looters carried sofas from stores, the police powerless to stop them, and entrepreneurs seized their opportunity by hawking T-shirts that read, "Miami Super Bowl ’89. It’s a Riot! "

The 49 ers, staying near Miami International Airport, didn’t encounter trouble, and for the most part the Bengals were escorted or directed away from it. Their cocoon burst 22 hours before kickoff when Wyche broke down in front of the team.

"It reverberated beyond shock, to see your head coach crying when your expectation is this is going to be the inspirational moment that every coach covets," former Bengals linebacker Reggie Williams said. "It hurt everyone. There was a certain belief and trust you had, not only in Stanley. That’s the glue that holds a team together and that glue had disintegrated before our very eyes. And there was nothing we could do about it. We’re haunted the rest of our lives and always wondering, ‘Would we have won had Stanley played?’ "

[b]Stanley Wilson’s sad tale [/b]


"Why would you do it? A lot of people were counting on you."

That’s what Bengals receiver Eddie Brown said he would tell Stanley Wilson today. But Brown hasn’t talked to his roommate since that night.

Today, Wilson, 45, is in a California state prison, eight years into a 22-year sentence. He was caught stealing $130,000 in property from a Beverly Hills home to pay for drugs. In 1999, Bengals receiver Cris Collinsworth visited him, as much to get answers for himself as to interview Wilson for television.

"My God, what have I done? " Wilson told Collinsworth.

Stanley Wilson, the inmate? "He was hurt," said Wilcots, who also interviewed Wilson, for ESPN. "He was hurt with all the pain he had caused so many people and things he had done. He felt bad he had wasted so much time and so much potential. I was kind of there just to love him, to offer him encouragement. I’m asking questions but still trying to let him know I’m there to support him."

It’s unlikely that feeling was always mutual among the Bengals. Months later, Wilson’s agent, Reggie Turner, told The New York Times that five Bengals were "involved" in drug use. In 1990, Wilson sold his story to Penthouse magazine, naming Brown, among others.

Brown said it was "fabricated just so he could get paid."

"I remember we all got on the elevator together and when the door was closing, he jumped off and said he had forgotten his playbook and he went back by himself to get his playbook," Wilcots said of the night before the Super Bowl. "All of us were going down the elevator to the team meeting and Sam says, ‘Is everyone here?’ "

No.

In the bathroom of Room 2211, Wilson was snorting and smoking cocaine. Running backs coach Jim Anderson, who had virtually adopted Wilson to keep him out of trouble, was among those who went to his room.

"I saw something I didn’t want to see," said Anderson, still reluctant to go into detail about what happened next. "I think he was very embarrassed."

The team’s security chief opened the bathroom door with a coat hanger. They found Wilson hiding behind a shower curtain, sweating.

"I can still remember him crying on the side of the bed and saying, ‘Sam, I’m so sorry, I’m sorry,’ " Wyche said. "And of course it was too late."

Wyche, also in tears, returned to the meeting room and announced, "Stanley couldn’t make it." He told players to reconvene 10 minutes later because he was unable to go on.

Wilson checked into a rundown hotel, sending a street dealer to purchase more cocaine.

He never saw the Super Bowl, not even on television.

Who knows what might have happened had Wilson been on the field? Wilson gained only 398 yards with two touchdowns in the regular season, but he scored twice in a playoff victory over Seattle, was key to Cincinnati’s play-action and was the primary blocking back for James Brooks and Ickey Woods.

Williams said he spent Saturday night reassuring his roommate, Brooks.

"You can have a great game, the greatest of all time, you’re going to run so fast they can’t touch you," Williams would say.

"A very emotionally draining night," Williams said.

So was the next night. Wyche, remembering the treacherous footing in Joe Robbie Stadium, said Wilson might have been particularly effective. "He didn’t pick his feet up and really dig into the turf," Wyche said. "I think he could have made people miss."

A 40-yard field goal by Breech with 3:20 left gave the Bengals a 16-13 lead, but on the other sideline stood Montana. Eleven plays and 92 yards later, it was 49 ers 20, Bengals 16.

Wilcots couldn’t sleep for a month.

"My life changed that day," Williams said. After 14 seasons with the Bengals, he retired.

"When I was drafted by Cincinnati, my one and only goal was to win a Super Bowl ring," he said. "If I didn’t win, it was time to leave town. ... I never wanted to live the rest of my life making excuses for 34 seconds, so I left Cincinnati while on top. But 34 seconds short of a ring."

Falling short of a Super Bowl was a blow, but as the 1989 Bengals learned, qualifying for it — and playing in it — can be special, too.

"The Super Bowl is something you have to cherish," Brown said. "I do cherish that, for the rest of my life. Even though that happened, we still have to look past that, knowing we were in the best game ever played."

And one of the strangest.[/quote]


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