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Interesting that he never mentioned A.J. Nicholson today.Sounds like he's in Marvin's dog house.Also,his mention of Ahmad Brooks a couple times indicates to me he's positive about him.Body language can be telling.At the mention of Justin Smith,he evaded the trade question while putting his hand to his face and neck.That's a sign of a man who might be disengenuous or have an itch.
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[quote name='rudi32' post='460868' date='Mar 22 2007, 08:07 PM']yea he really talked a lot about brooks, said him or miller will be our MLB this year. My $$$ is on brooks.

Im glad i got his jersey last year
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I liked reading the part of the Henderson article that said he and Ahmad called Hunley and put him on speaker as they walked him through plays and responsibilities. Shows me both players want to get ahead and be ready for this upcoming season. Barring something unforeseen this MLB job is going to Brooks.

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I found the press conference more informational than the Hobs one (no surprise!). Several things I was glad to hear:

1. Brooks as a potential "outstanding LB in this league". And, that he and Caleb are fighting for the MLB starting role. I know Ahmad has more physical ability, but I wouldn't count out Caleb. He's a good football player, and as long as Fat Sam and Peko are eating up blockers, Miller can be very effective.

2. ML mentioned Rucker as being "very talented." I'm looking forward to seeing what a healthy Rucker can bring to the defense.

3. Mentioning about Tab's health, and the fact that Chris Perry's surgery went well, and that he's working "very hard" on his rehab.

Also, anybody else catch it in the press conference, when the Chickster asked about what area they were targeting in the draft, and ML said defense... but then in response to a follow-up, ML made reference to "if a CB or safety isn't there" - not sure if that was intentional, or a slip.
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Maybe hearing it from Marvin will clear up some of the doubts some people on here had about Ahmad Brooks's work ethic. Marvin sounds pretty high on Brooks when that subject came up.

Jeb was probably on to something when he started those posts about a couple of fortnights ago about Ahmad taking the MLB job and being hungry for that big contract that eluded him earlier. He's gonna put in the work for it, that's for sure.
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[quote name='texbengal' post='460879' date='Mar 22 2007, 08:35 PM']I found the press conference more informational than the Hobs one (no surprise!). Several things I was glad to hear:

1. Brooks as a potential "outstanding LB in this league". And, that he and Caleb are fighting for the MLB starting role. I know Ahmad has more physical ability, but I wouldn't count out Caleb. He's a good football player, and as long as Fat Sam and Peko are eating up blockers, Miller can be very effective.[/quote]

Since Marvin has coached the likes of LBs like Ray Lewis, Peter Boulware, Jamie Sharper, and Levar Arrington, I am just going to go off on his judgement here. He knows the qualites of an outstanding LB, and he is saying that Ahmad has the potential to be on of the game's greats. Also abotu Caleb, he is probablly gonna be in the mix for a while. He is one of those guys that is just productive when he gets out on the field, but he needs to make more big plays in the form of sacks and INTs, since coverage is supposed to be his forte.

[quote]2. ML mentioned Rucker as being "very talented." I'm looking forward to seeing what a healthy Rucker can bring to the defense.[/quote]
I am intrigued by this statement. If Marvin claimes that Rucker is very talented, why would he eat a 8.6 milliion cap hit for Justin? I guess it's just ot ahve someone that knows the defense, but sometimes you have to let talent get on the field, regardless of whether it knows what it's doing. I mean, it worked pretty well for Odell in his rookie year, even thought he made a bunch fo mistakes, he made serveral plays as well.

[quote]3. Mentioning about Tab's health, and the fact that Chris Perry's surgery went well, and that he's working "very hard" on his rehab.[/quote]
Nice to hear, but I would rather have Chris Perry work on not getting hurt so much. He should take some lessons from Rudi as far as durability is concerned.

[quote]Also, anybody else catch it in the press conference, when the Chickster asked about what area they were targeting in the draft, and ML said defense... but then in response to a follow-up, ML made reference to "if a CB or safety isn't there" - not sure if that was intentional, or a slip.[/quote]
That, my friends is called a Freudian slip, when you get a insight on what the subject is thinking for real while he is saying something else. I think he is targeting a corner, since we had success last year with a first round corner.

Wouldn't hurt to get another Jonathan Joseph on the roster to solidify the corner spots.
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[quote name='Patmo' post='460864' date='Mar 22 2007, 07:55 PM']Interesting that he never mentioned A.J. Nicholson today.Sounds like he's in Marvin's dog house.Also,his mention of Ahmad Brooks a couple times indicates to me he's positive about him.Body language can be telling.At the mention of Justin Smith,he evaded the trade question while putting his hand to his face and neck.That's a sign of a man who might be disengenuous or have an itch.[/quote]
I like the way you think... what's going on... [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img]
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[quote name='DanvilleBengal' post='460923' date='Mar 22 2007, 09:03 PM']Since Marvin has coached the likes of LBs like Ray Lewis, Peter Boulware, Jamie Sharper, and Levar Arrington, I am just going to go off on his judgement here. He knows the qualites of an outstanding LB, and he is saying that Ahmad has the potential to be on of the game's greats. Also abotu Caleb, he is probablly gonna be in the mix for a while. He is one of those guys that is just productive when he gets out on the field, but he needs to make more big plays in the form of sacks and INTs, since coverage is supposed to be his forte.

[b]I agree that Miller needs to make more big plays. There's no question in my mind that Brooks can make more of them. I'm guessing at this point, Miller is more consistently in the right spot because of his familiarity with the defense, and he's no slouch from a movement skills standpoint.[/b]

I am intrigued by this statement. If Marvin claimes that Rucker is very talented, why would he eat a 8.6 milliion cap hit for Justin? I guess it's just ot ahve someone that knows the defense, but sometimes you have to let talent get on the field, regardless of whether it knows what it's doing. I mean, it worked pretty well for Odell in his rookie year, even thought he made a bunch fo mistakes, he made serveral plays as well.

[b]I don't believe that they didn't see enough of Rucker to bank on what he did in practice and in some PS games to let someone like Smith go. That's why, even if Justin just signs the one-year deal, Rucker will likely get a long look to see what he brings to the table in 2008 and beyond.
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That, my friends is called a Freudian slip, when you get a insight on what the subject is thinking for real while he is saying something else. I think he is targeting a corner, since we had success last year with a first round corner.

Wouldn't hurt to get another Jonathan Joseph on the roster to solidify the corner spots.

[b]I'm assuming it was a Freudian slip as well, but ML's pretty slick. Regardless, it doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to figure out that DB is a need, with O'Neal coming off a sub-par season and the safeties having some injury issues -- and whose play was, for the most part, average.
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[quote][size=3][b]Bengals' healing a good feeling[/b][/size]
Many to be ready for offseason work

BY MARK CURNUTTE | MCURNUTTE@ENQUIRER.COM


Marvin Lewis pointed Thursday to the start of the Bengals' offseason strength program, April 2, and the first on-field day, May 15, and said he expects to have many of his injured players cleared to practice.

Wide receiver Antonio Chatman, who was placed on injured reserve Oct. 27 with a groin injury, already has been cleared. Fellow wide receiver Tab Perry, the team's top kickoff return man who went on IR Oct. 20 with a hip injury, is expected to be cleared medically before May 15.

"We had a lot of guys on the shelf," said Lewis, in reference to the 13 Bengals who were lost for the season on IR.

Starting left tackle Levi Jones, who made news earlier in the week for an altercation with Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter in a Las Vegas casino, had surgery to clean out his left knee.

"Recovering his jewelry is the biggest thing on his mind," Lewis said when asked about Jones' mind-set.

"Everything (with Jones' knee) seems to be well. The doctors seemed to think that would not prohibit him from being ready to go at the start of training camp and being ready to do some of our on-field work."

Tab Perry had surgery to address hip injuries suffered at the end of the Week 2 game against Cleveland - the same game that claimed center Rich Braham, safety Dexter Jackson and linebacker David Pollack to injuries.

Perry has been running, Lewis said, and could be ready for the start of on-field work.

Pollack suffered a fractured C-6 vertebra.

"He is in the early, early stages of rehab. There is really no update. He is healing and beginning to weight train and do other things," Lewis said.

Running back Chris Perry is questionable for the start of training camp after suffering a "serious" ankle injury and undergoing surgery. But it's not for lack of effort. "He's working his tail off," Lewis said.[/quote]



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[quote name='The Entertainer' post='461085' date='Mar 23 2007, 11:08 AM']Pollack suffered a fractured C-6 vertebra.

"He is in the early, early stages of rehab. There is really no update.[b] He is healing and beginning to weight train [/b]and do other things," Lewis said.[/quote]
This was the best news in either the press conference, or the Hobnob interview yesterday. It's still far too early to assume he'll be back, but the fact that he's hitting the weights again is a huge step in the right direction.
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[quote name='OzBengal' post='461158' date='Mar 23 2007, 09:17 AM']Thank god. Marvin all but said Ahmad Brooks will be our starting MLB. Now all the idiots can shut up about him being an OLB.[/quote]


Yeah I know all of us "idiots" should have never took what Chuck said seriously he was just joshing us.


STFU!
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='461163' date='Mar 23 2007, 08:31 AM']Yeah I know all of us "idiots" should have never took what Chuck said seriously he was just joshing us.
STFU![/quote]

Chuck never said he would play OLB for us, he said he hoped he could play in that position. The experiment never lasted two weeks and he ended up starting 5 games at MLB. Look, I can understand the dream. People wanted Odell and Brooks to be on the field at the same time. But if you think about it you know its illogical. With the time Odell has missed and the conditions under which he may return to the team only a crazy man would make someone like that the MLB of the future.
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[quote name='OzBengal' post='461158' date='Mar 23 2007, 08:17 AM'][b]Thank god. Marvin all but said Ahmad Brooks will be our starting MLB.[/b] Now all the idiots can shut up about him being an OLB.[/quote]
NO HE DIDN'T! :onoudidnt:

He said Brooks has a chance to compete with Caleb for the starting MLB job.

I love the way people round here keep riding Brooks' jock and immediately assume he's already our starting MLB. We haven't even started training camp yet! Anything can happen. Caleb is no slouch and has the advantage over Ahmed in terms of experience. We all know Brooks is gonna be good, no question. But there's no guarantee he's gonna be far along enough and be ready to start for us come September. He will be better this year, but it's pointless speculating this early as to who's gonne be starting at MIKE. He will be our starting MLB at some point, but hang on and see what happens during training camp first. Nothing's cut and dried with Brooks yet. He hasn't even shown up on special teams!

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[quote name='OzBengal' post='461172' date='Mar 23 2007, 09:48 AM']Chuck never said he would play OLB for us, he said he hoped he could play in that position. The experiment never lasted two weeks and he ended up starting 5 games at MLB. Look, I can understand the dream. People wanted Odell and Brooks to be on the field at the same time. But if you think about it you know its illogical. With the time Odell has missed and the conditions under which he may return to the team only a crazy man would make someone like that the MLB of the future.[/quote]

odell still has a better grasp of and more nfl experience than brooks the next 2-4 weeks will tell wonders for thurmans potential return, hopefully i can talk to someone with some gossip soon. I dont think its important enough to have a "locker room devided" situation but i know the feelings on his return are split among teammates. odell is no less tallented as he was his rookie year, which was pretty great for a rookie year.

[quote name='EnglishBengal' post='461863' date='Mar 24 2007, 05:14 PM']NO HE DIDN'T! :onoudidnt:

He said Brooks has a chance to compete with Caleb for the starting MLB job.

I love the way people round here keep riding Brooks' jock and immediately assume he's already our starting MLB. We haven't even started training camp yet! Anything can happen. Caleb is no slouch and has the advantage over Ahmed in terms of experience. We all know Brooks is gonna be good, no question. But there's no guarantee he's gonna be far along enough and be ready to start for us come September. He will be better this year, but it's pointless speculating this early as to who's gonne be starting at MIKE. He will be our starting MLB at some point, but hang on and see what happens during training camp first. Nothing's cut and dried with Brooks yet. He hasn't even shown up on special teams![/quote]

while i agree with you, training camp not starting means very little, its not like any of these guys are off eating cheetos hoping they are still in the upper half of the depth chart come august, 3-4 days a week if not more these guys are in contact with the coaches and training staff, barring a drastic change in someones attitude or life everyone involved has a damn good idea who is going to be ready for what and when. training camp shows off what you've accomplished the last 6 months and a player and person on/off the field. by no means is that the start of any competition. it is the last lap tho. but no way 2.5-3 weeks determines a football team, knowing what your getting out of a player day in day out all year long is worth a lot, any coach would rather have a decent guy who does his job all game every game stays healthy and knowledgeable than a player who shows something great and flops a play later, probably why guys like brian robinson, tory james, KASE, dexjax, JT, all kept thier jobs as long as they did/have so far, and guys like brooks came and went in and out of the lineup and even active roster last year.

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[quote name='GoBengals' post='461991' date='Mar 25 2007, 12:30 AM']odell still has a better grasp of and more nfl experience than brooks the next 2-4 weeks will tell wonders for thurmans potential return, hopefully i can talk to someone with some gossip soon. I dont think its important enough to have a "locker room devided" situation but i know the feelings on his return are split among teammates. odell is no less tallented as he was his rookie year, which was pretty great for a rookie year.[/quote]

Marvin made Odell the 4th string linebacker last camp. To suggest he could leapfrog to the front after further trouble is absurd. He is probably even behind AJ Nicholson right now. Actually he is not even guaranteed to be playing this year. Marvin said they cut Brian Simmons so Brooks could be the starting MLB. I'll take his word thanks.
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[quote name='OzBengal' post='461996' date='Mar 25 2007, 01:49 AM']Marvin made Odell the 4th string linebacker last camp. To suggest he could leapfrog to the front after further trouble is absurd. He is probably even behind AJ Nicholson right now. Actually he is not even guaranteed to be playing this year. Marvin said they cut Brian Simmons so Brooks could [b]compete with Caleb for the starting MLB job[/b]. I'll take his word thanks.[/quote]

There ya go, corrected it! :rolleyes:

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[quote name='EnglishBengal' post='462000' date='Mar 25 2007, 05:26 AM']There ya go, corrected it! :rolleyes:[/quote]

Sure, but here is what Marvin said...

"Defensively we kind of had our draft last year in drafting Ahmad Brooks, who we really feel has an opportunity to be just an outstanding NFL lineback. Although we took him last year he kind of had a redshirt year, Ahmad Brooks gets an opportunity to come back and compete with Caleb to be the starting middle linebacker and that’s why we ended up making the move with Brian and allowing him to go to another team, so that’s a good positive move for us."

Marvin was talking all about Brooks. He is clearly the guy he is high on. I've never heard him talk that way about Caleb Miller in his three years with the team. Caleb couldn't beat out Brian Simmons at MLB yet Marvin said he cut Simmons so Brooks could get a shot. What does that tell you? Baring an injury or a major setback Brooks will beat out Caleb. Caleb is too undersized to be MLB and is out of contract at the end of the year. And if Odell or AJ Nicholson were a chance to compete for the MLB job he would have mentioned them but he didn't.

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