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[quote]DENVER -- [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4680"]Al Wilson[/url]'s new agent confirmed Thursday night that the [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den"]Denver Broncos[/url] are shopping around for a trade partner but that a deal for the star middle linebacker isn't imminent.


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[font="arial"][size=-2][color="#666666"][b]Wilson[/b][/color][/size][/font]The NFL Network reported Thursday that talks with the New York Giants have heated up after the [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det"]Detroit Lions[/url] and Philadelphia Eagles showed strong interest.

"It's a little premature. There are a number of teams that are interested in Al -- Al is a player who is definitely in high demand -- but no decision has been made even whether Al will be traded," Denver-based agent Peter Schaffer told The Associated Press. "There's a number of moving parts. We're just going to take it one move at a time."

The Broncos, whose policy is not to discuss personnel matters in the offseason, could move [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6776"]D.J. Williams[/url] inside to replace Wilson, an eighth-year pro from Tennessee who was selected to his fifth Pro Bowl last season.

Schaffer has worked to try to facilitate a trade for Wilson, who is due $5.2 million in base salary next season, since the linebacker switched agents last week. Schaffer said he wants to make sure Wilson winds up in the best situation, whether that be in Denver or elsewhere.

"The Giants have expressed interest," Schaffer said. "We're exploring all options. We want to make a decision that's best in Al's short-term and long-term interests."

Wilson had a team-best 113 tackles last season, including 88 solo, with five sacks, a forced fumble and six pass breakups.

A fan favorite, Wilson also is a locker room leader and elder statesman on the team. He spoke at the funerals of cornerback [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7232"]Darrent Williams[/url] and running back [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7318"]Damien Nash[/url] this offseason, two teammates who died at age 24.

The Broncos have committed big bucks to several free agents this month and might want to free up money by dealing Wilson, a player who would command a high return.

"Al Wilson is the consummate professional. He understands the business side of the game. He also understands the Broncos have treated him eminently fairly throughout the course of his career," Schaffer said. "There's a business side of it. He certainly has nothing but admiration and respect for the fans of Denver and the Broncos organization.

"He's had a wonderful run here -- and I'm not by any means saying that run is over. It may continue."

[i]Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press[/i][/quote]
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[quote name='GoBengals' post='461036' date='Mar 23 2007, 12:46 AM']this guy isnt very impressive, his stats are mediocre really..

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ya, but landon johnsons stats are kind of impressive.
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[quote name='A-Men-HouseofPain' post='461040' date='Mar 23 2007, 12:53 AM']ya, but landon johnsons stats are kind of impressive.[/quote]

while landons stats were higher than this guys except for 1.5 sack difference, .. both are pretty mediocre.. and play difference position, wilson is a MLB, landon is an OLB... so im not sure where this was headed, joking or not.
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[quote name='GoBengals' post='461036' date='Mar 22 2007, 09:46 PM']this guy isnt very impressive, his stats are mediocre really..

[url="http://nfl.com/players/playerpage/133451"]http://nfl.com/players/playerpage/133451[/url][/quote]

You're joking right? Are you seriously trying to judge a defensive player based on a stat sheet? Let me guess-you're probably a fantasy football geek too, right?

Al Wilson is a Pro-Bowl LB and has been one of the best LBs in the NFL for quite a while. But the fact is, the Bengals have several young, talented LBs who need to play. Plus, you would have to give up a lot to get him. So he wouldn't make much sense at this point.
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[quote name='JoePong' post='461058' date='Mar 23 2007, 01:46 AM']You're joking right? Are you seriously trying to judge a defensive player based on a stat sheet? Let me guess-you're probably a fantasy football geek too, right?[/quote]

I don't think I've ever seen a JoePong post on any message board that doesn't include this sort of juvenile crap.

Anyways, I don't want Wilson. He won't be worth the trade goods he'd demand.
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I think he'd be a nice fit at the right price.He'd bring much needed leadership skills to the D and he's very good in pass coverage.
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Only because Thurman could play weakside and be pretty beastly there would I consider this. Otherwise, Pong is correct, we have guys that need to play.

If we did this, you'd see Landon Johnson and Miller out the door in next years free agency.

But, our LBing corps would look like Thurman-Wilson-Brooks. Which is pretty beastly.

If Thurman may not work out, I'd REALLY consider this, especially if Smith is a tradable option.

Hell, I'd consider this just to get rid of Justin. That way we could move to two up field ends (Colts), or a true base end on the strongside and move Geathers to weak.
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[quote name='JoePong' post='461058' date='Mar 23 2007, 02:46 AM']You're joking right? Are you seriously trying to judge a defensive player based on a stat sheet? Let me guess-you're probably a fantasy football geek too, right?

Al Wilson is a Pro-Bowl LB and has been one of the best LBs in the NFL for quite a while. But the fact is, the Bengals have several young, talented LBs who need to play. Plus, you would have to give up a lot to get him. So he wouldn't make much sense at this point.[/quote]


Woah!!! Be careful. You almost stepped into a big ol' pile of steaming hot "I just fucked up". Try responding with a little more courtesy, would you? We like to back up statements with logic. Try it out. Why do you think stats shouldn't play a role in "talent assessment"? I personally agree with you, to a point, but don't like the way you go about making your point.


As for the Wilson, I just don't see it happening. With the release of Simmons, I think Marvin is heading more in the direction of letting the youth he's drafted mature and fill in the spot. I wouldn't mind having him though. A solid veteren player with leadership ability is something the defense needs right now.
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[quote name='globetrotter' post='461030' date='Mar 23 2007, 12:39 AM']Justin SMith for Al Wilson?[/quote]

Don't count on it. The Broncos are trying to free up cap space. Trading for Justin would not accomplish that.

[quote name='GoBengals' post='461036' date='Mar 23 2007, 12:46 AM']this guy isnt very impressive, his stats are mediocre really..

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Mediocre for a pro-bowler, maybe. :rolleyes:

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[quote name='Scoutforlife591' post='461122' date='Mar 23 2007, 08:46 AM']Only because Thurman could play weakside and be pretty beastly there would I consider this. Otherwise, Pong is correct, we have guys that need to play.

If we did this, you'd see Landon Johnson and Miller out the door in next years free agency.

But, our LBing corps would look like Thurman-Wilson-Brooks. Which is pretty beastly.

If Thurman may not work out, I'd REALLY consider this, especially if Smith is a tradable option.

Hell, I'd consider this just to get rid of Justin. That way we could move to two up field ends (Colts), or a true base end on the strongside and move Geathers to weak.[/quote]

I agree with you to a point. But I don't know if you want to count on Rucker to take JS place.. And i'm not sure you want to draft a DE this year. Personally I would let Justin sign his tender and let him walk next year after getting Rucker some snaps to see how he translates to the NFL. If we are going to roll the dice with our DE situation and trade Justin we should be trying to get someone still in the prime of his carreer, or on thier way up, otherwise you just create another aged position that will need to be soon replaced. Someone like Lance Briggs for example (not that this is possible).
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[quote name='Scoutforlife591' post='461122' date='Mar 23 2007, 08:46 AM']Only because Thurman could play weakside and be pretty beastly there would I consider this. Otherwise, Pong is correct, we have guys that need to play.

If we did this, you'd see Landon Johnson and Miller out the door in next years free agency.

But, our LBing corps would look like Thurman-Wilson-Brooks. Which is pretty beastly.

If Thurman may not work out, I'd REALLY consider this, especially if Smith is a tradable option.

Hell, I'd consider this just to get rid of Justin. That way we could move to two up field ends (Colts), or a true base end on the strongside and move Geathers to weak.[/quote]

We can't get this guy yet. He only plays good in even years. We have to wait for '08 to pick him up.
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I think he's an excellent player and fiery leader, too. He'd be the best LB the team has from day one. While I think Brooks can be a beast, Wilson already is one, and he's been durable, too.

Question is, what'd it cost. The Broncos need DL help, so Justin would be an option to consider.
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[quote name='JoePong' post='461058' date='Mar 23 2007, 02:46 AM']You're joking right? Are you seriously trying to judge a defensive player based on a stat sheet? Let me guess-you're probably a fantasy football geek too, right?

Al Wilson is a Pro-Bowl LB and has been one of the best LBs in the NFL for quite a while. But the fact is, the Bengals have several young, talented LBs who need to play. Plus, you would have to give up a lot to get him. So he wouldn't make much sense at this point.[/quote]


your right, most of the best nfl players in the league have shit stats. let me guess, you sit at your desk and think your smarter than everyone while everyone thinks your a disgruntled cock bag? if your done consuming your own balls over your VAST AND SUPERIOR football knowledge, by stats i mean he has had his least productive year in the last 3or more years, is getting older and is being cut from a team who has him locked up a very reasonable prices through the 2010 season. he also turn 30 in a few months and his apparently on the downside of his career, the broncos are pretty strapped for cash, but a restructure would be more profitable for wilson and more benefit for them if he was worth the trouble.

and no, i dont play fantasy football.
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[quote name='Lucid' post='461142' date='Mar 23 2007, 09:00 AM']I agree with you to a point. But I don't know if you want to count on Rucker to take JS place.. And i'm not sure you want to draft a DE this year. Personally I would let Justin sign his tender and let him walk next year after getting Rucker some snaps to see how he translates to the NFL. If we are going to roll the dice with our DE situation and trade Justin we should be trying to get someone still in the prime of his carreer, or on thier way up, otherwise you just create another aged position that will need to be soon replaced. Someone like Lance Briggs for example (not that this is possible).[/quote]

Well, I really think Fanene will turn it on this year. Also, we still have Bryan Robinson, who I think may have trouble finding a spot on this roster. So with Smith gone, we'd be alright. I think. Plus there is still the draft and some pretty good players. I think if we got a pass rusher, combined with a run-stopping end we already possess we'd be fine.
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I like Fanene, but I see him as more of a depth and role guy. I could be wrong of course.. Bryan is definately a purely situational guy as he lacks the stamina to give significant snaps.

I just feel that the position is a big question mark without Justin there. Like him or not, overpaid or not, right now he is our best D-Lineman

IMO
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[quote]A much discussed trade that would have sent Denver Broncos star middle linebacker Al Wilson to the New York Giants was severely jeopardized on Friday, and perhaps scuttled entirely, when the five-time Pro Bowl performer failed a physical examination.[/quote]

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[quote name='Scoutforlife591' post='461122' date='Mar 23 2007, 05:46 AM']But, our LBing corps would look like Thurman-Wilson-Brooks. Which is pretty beastly.[/quote]

I just don't see Brooks EVER playing on the strong side. What a waste and a misuse of talent that would be.
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[quote name='WhoDeyUK' post='461584' date='Mar 23 2007, 08:15 PM'][url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2810188&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines[/url][/quote]


just saw that myself...

teams dont just wanna trade players making mediocre money who are good healthy contributing players...
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[quote name='GoBengals' post='461708' date='Mar 24 2007, 03:19 AM']just saw that myself...

teams dont just wanna trade players making mediocre money who are good healthy contributing players...[/quote]


denver's one of the most creative teams in the league at tweaking the salary cap. keeping a player with a 5M hit wouldn't cause them to bat an eye... that is, IF it was a player they felt they needed to keep.
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