fredtoast Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 DT Darwin Walker, 6'3". 295 was released by the Bears. He is 30 years old, but until '07 he was pretty much injury free. The Bears signed him to a 5 year $25 million contract before last season. He played through a lot of injuries because the Bears had already lost two other DTs to injury, and he had a poor season. However in the five years prior to that he had been one of the better DTs in the league racking up 26.5 sacks (the Bengals leading sack man over the last 5 years is Justin smith with 28.5). Walker was a starter (82 career starts) on some very good Eagle defenses, and he holds a special place in my heart for being an absolute stud on the University of Tennessee team that won the National Championship in '98. [b]IF HE IS HEALTHY[/b] then he would be as good as Robertson for millions less. The injuries he had last year included knee, elbow, and wrist. I don't know which one finally got him benched for the last three games, but I know that he had been playing injured for a while before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 [quote name='fredtoast' post='641960' date='Mar 9 2008, 04:43 PM']DT Darwin Walker, 5'3". 295 was released by the Bears. He is 30 years old, but until '07 he was pretty much injury free. The Bears signed him to a 5 year $25 million contract before last season. He played through a lot of injuries because the Bears had already lost two other DTs to injury, and he had a poor season. However in the five years prior to that he had been one of the better DTs in the league racking up 26.5 sacks (the Bengals leading sack man over the last 5 years is Justin smith with 28.5). Walker was a starter (82 career starts) on some very good Eagle defenses, and he holds a special place in my heart for being an absolute stud on the University of Tennessee team that won the National Championship in '98. [b]IF HE IS HEALTHY[/b] then he would be as good as Robertson for millions less. The injuries he had last year included knee, elbow, and wrist. I don't know which one finally got him benched for the last three games, but I know that he had been playing injured for a while before that.[/quote] rather pudgy little fellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-GoBengals- Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 if they signed him to a 25 mil deal before last year, arent they taking it in the ass via the cap cutting him now? and if so id say he must really suck at this point if they are willing to take it in the rump to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanMunster Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 [quote name='bengaled' post='641962' date='Mar 9 2008, 04:47 PM']rather pudgy little fellow [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 My only concern would be his height! He would be better in a 3-4 as a nose guard. Has he blocked any passes in his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PakMan Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 He's NOT 5'3". Maybe 6'3" But no thanks. We would be reaching. If we're going to get a small, old DT, it should be Rod Coleman. Otherwise Frank Okam or Red Bryant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 [quote name='PakMan' post='642005' date='Mar 9 2008, 06:30 PM']He's [color="#FF0000"]NOT [/color]5'3". Maybe 6'3" But no thanks. We would be reaching. If we're going to get a small, old DT, it should be Rod Coleman. Otherwise Frank Okam or Red Bryant.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmo Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='GoBengals' post='641973' date='Mar 9 2008, 05:11 PM']if they signed him to a 25 mil deal before last year, arent they taking it in the ass via the cap cutting him now? and if so id say he must really suck at this point if they are willing to take it in the rump to get rid of him.[/quote] Sounds like a stereeotypical DT.They get beaten up pretty fast fending off blockers.I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmo Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='Patmo' post='642024' date='Mar 9 2008, 07:43 PM']Sounds like a stereeotypical DT.They get beaten up pretty fast fending off blockers.I'll pass.[/quote] Here's a run down on college DT's.Not a very promising group,imo. [url="http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/dt.html"]http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/dt.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='GoBengals' post='641973' date='Mar 9 2008, 05:11 PM']if they signed him to a 25 mil deal before last year, arent they taking it in the ass via the cap cutting him now? and if so id say he must really suck at this point if they are willing to take it in the rump to get rid of him.[/quote] I'd venture a strong guess that very little of it was signing bonus so most would be year to year salary and only the years he was actually on the roster would hit their cap. I'd imagine his bonus had to be minimal no more than a couple million, tops. Having said all that, like fredtoast said - if he's healthy he's a gamer. Good locker room presence, no trouble off the field type that just got it done. He'd be had for relatively cheap and is immediately better than Myers and Thornton for sure, possibly Peko but I guess Peko would get the nod for youth. Again, if healthy he upgrades your DT rotation just by being better than those two certainly. I'd hope that if he were signed that it didn't automatically take us out of the DT market though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalbutch Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 He's not as good as Robertson IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan850 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='bengalbutch' post='642056' date='Mar 9 2008, 09:55 PM']He's not as good as Robertson IMO.[/quote] but neither is he as expensive... i wouldn't over pay but i would rather sign him then keep JT i would love walker and peko starting with meyers and a rook rotating in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatScratchFever Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 FA DT = Fat Ass Defensive Tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='bengalbutch' post='642056' date='Mar 9 2008, 08:55 PM']He's not as good as Robertson IMO.[/quote] Walker was injured in '07, but before that he was pretty much injury free. If you compare his 5 years prior to '07 with Robertson's 5 years in the league you can see how really good Walker is. Robertson has more total tackles, but Walker blows him away as far as being a disruptive force in the backfield. Walker has 12 more sacks and 13 more blocked passes during that period plus 2.5 more stuffs (tackles for loss on running plays). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='fredtoast' post='641960' date='Mar 9 2008, 04:43 PM'][size=3][b]DT Darwin Walker, 5'3". 295 [/b][/size][/quote] you sure we need a 5'3 DT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='fredtoast' post='642075' date='Mar 9 2008, 10:20 PM']Walker was injured in '07, but before that he was pretty much injury free. If you compare his 5 years prior to '07 with Robertson's 5 years in the league you can see how really good Walker is. Robertson has more total tackles, but Walker blows him away as far as being a disruptive force in the backfield. Walker has 12 more sacks and 13 more blocked passes during that period plus 2.5 more stuffs (tackles for loss on running plays).[/quote] well... everyone was injury free until they were injured... but if he is such a gamer and is such a great presence, he wouldnt be getting cut this early, especially a measly 5 mil per year cap hit... must be an injury thing lingering if all else is true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Where's BJ with the man-love to ward off the potential signing of a loser prospect when you need him? Bigger question: Can he do backflips? If so, SIGN HIM NOW, HE IS THE SHITTORZZ!!!1111 If not, pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 At 5'3", my only concern would be how long are his arms? We all know that that is a very important factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBengalsFan Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Guys I'm not sure if we should take someone who's the same height as a lot of teenage girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 At this rate we're better off drafting either Ellis or Laws(in round 2). Other than that they're are no DT's worth drafting that would be an upgrade for us. As for FA's, maybe Rod Colman, but he's been a bit crippled in recent years - that kind of puts me off a bit. The real reason, according to some reports why the Bengals didn't sign Robertson, was a degenerative knee condition which he seems to be suffering from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='EnglishBengal' post='642107' date='Mar 10 2008, 06:14 AM']At this rate we're better off drafting either Ellis or Laws(in round 2). [b]Other than that they're are no DT's worth drafting that would be an upgrade for us.[/b][/quote] I dunno about that. They aren't as highly regarded as Ellis and Dorsey, but there are still some pretty darn good DT's in the draft such as Balmer, Sims, Laws, and Okam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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