|Tigers Johnson| Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I thought he looked good in his limited characters... He looked fast... He had great change of direction... He was much more powerful than Perry... ...and most importantly.... [b]HE DID NOT FUMBLE!![/b] I am hoping with more time on the offense he can catch his groove and be our RB of the future so it is one less need we have next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I was disappointed that they didn't continue to play the hot hand in Benson. Perry flashed on a few plays (and had a TD called back on BS) but on the whole I was very impressed with Benson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Dey Forever Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I like Benson more than perry already...Should've got more action the 2nd half but we abandoned it for some reason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 If perry doent fix the fumbling problem Benson will beat him out and thats not that I think Benson is that great, just that the fumbles are costing us games now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsNYC Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Tigers Johnson' post='709896' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:18 PM']I thought he looked good in his limited characters... He looked fast... He had great change of direction... He was much more powerful than Perry... ...and most importantly.... [b]HE DID NOT FUMBLE!![/b] I am hoping with more time on the offense he can catch his groove and be our RB of the future so it is one less need we have next season.[/quote] This RB job should be Cedric's to lose. Let him know to live at the stadium and in his playbook and let him have the starting gig. Perry is way too much of a liability and hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire when he does manage to hang on to the ball. Benson hit the hole w/ a purpose and didn't show hesitation even though it would have been understandable if he was a little unsure in his first game. This team is not playing nearly well enough to make up for continued Perry fumbles, nor should it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 not to mention, I like it when they line Perry up as a WR. IMO they should make an effort to do a better job of getting him in open space, like they have been doing (successfully) with Chatman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='709911' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:25 PM']not to mention, I like it when they line Perry up as a WR. IMO they should make an effort to do a better job of getting him in open space, like they have been doing (successfully) with Chatman.[/quote] I like when they sit Perry and put in anyone else. The guy can't hold onto the ball so he is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='SF2' post='709924' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:31 PM']I like when they sit Perry and put in anyone else. The guy can't hold onto the ball so he is useless.[/quote] yep, that's the spirit! I'm no more a fan of the fumbles as anyone else, but to say he's useless completely kills the credibility of your post. Put him in space and up against DB's. The fumbles are happening when you try to make him a bruiser in the middle. Get him on the edges and let him make people miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan850 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 he should get alot more carries as he becomes more familer with our offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='709928' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:33 PM']yep, that's the spirit! I'm no more a fan of the fumbles as anyone else, but to say he's useless completely kills the credibility of your post. Put him in space and up against DB's. The fumbles are happening when you try to make him a bruiser in the middle. Get him on the edges and let him make people miss.[/quote] Get him to the edges???? So thats your strategy for our starting RB on this team? If he can't run between the tackles he needs to sit on the sidelines. He is nothing more than a situational player and a marginal one at that. We need a real running back. We didn't draft him to work the edges just like New Orleans didn't draft Reggie Bush to do the same. They have Deuce McCallister, we have .... not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Benson should start and make perry the change of pace back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='SF2' post='709938' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:40 PM']Get him to the edges???? So thats your strategy for our starting RB on this team? If he can't run between the tackles he needs to sit on the sidelines. He is nothing more than a situational player and a marginal one at that. We need a real running back. We didn't draft him to work the edges just like New Orleans didn't draft Reggie Bush to do the same. They have Deuce McCallister, we have .... not sure.[/quote] gawd forbid we get creative with our talent like other teams do! And I'm not talking about him necessarily still being the starter, but there certainly isn't any reason you can't get both he and Benson on the field at the same time. Perry has shown that he can make people miss in open space and has more than proven that he is a capable receiver. Use that to your advantage. What's the worse that could happen at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 He didn't fumble. I like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Perry's just a work in progress, IMO, though obviously the fumbling is very disturbing. I don't think he's as sharp/aware on cuts yet, either. Agree w/1181 that he's at his best in open space. Benson runs low with good body lean, and he can get YAC, so he's Rudi-like in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellkiperjr Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Perry's a classic 3rd down back, he's just not suited to pounding it up the middle. I hope Benson emerges as the main runner so Perry can spot him on 3rd downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='709949' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:44 PM']gawd forbid we get creative with our talent like other teams do! And I'm not talking about him necessarily still being the starter, but there certainly isn't any reason you can't get both he and Benson on the field at the same time. Perry has shown that he can make people miss in open space and has more than proven that he is a capable receiver. Use that to your advantage. What's the worse that could happen at this point?[/quote] talk about whats the worst that could happen, why the fuck aren't we going for it on 4th and 1 ? they did on 4th and 4 and got a TD!!! thats coaching fault big time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbeyonddriven Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 It was one game people, he did look pretty good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='texbengal' post='709951' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:46 PM']Perry's just a work in progress, IMO, though obviously the fumbling is very disturbing. I don't think he's as sharp/aware on cuts yet, either. Agree w/1181 that he's at his best in open space. Benson runs low with good body lean, and he can get YAC, so he's Rudi-like in that way.[/quote] You mean Rudi-like in 2004-05. Not after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Cedric do the middle and Perry do the 3rd downs mix it up to keep D's honest and that would be 1-2 punch we need. TJ is coming around. Chatman is looking good and Holt is gonna bring one home soon. O line did a better job somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Smellkiperjr' post='709952' date='Oct 5 2008, 07:47 PM']Perry's a classic 3rd down back, he's just not suited to pounding it up the middle. I hope Benson emerges as the main runner so Perry can spot him on 3rd downs.[/quote] I totally agree. Even after one game, Benson just looks the part and Perry's too busy trying to shift his weight rather than lean through the meager holes the offensive line is giving. Perry needs time to get himself squared upfield before he can make moves. Benson is a typical bruiser with an apparent eye for taking what is given by the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellkiperjr Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Perry even holds the ball like an outside, change-of-pace back. The bruisers who run up the middle cradle the ball and have quick instincts to add the second hand for security upon contact. Outside runners like Perry seem to hold the ball more loosely which allows them more arm movement but seriously impedes ball security. For all Rudi's issues, the one thing he never suffered from was fumbling. I think I took that forgranted. God it's deflating to have a momentum changing drive halted by a fumble. I just hope Lewis doesn't get another case of the misdirected loyalty he suffered from in 2007 with Rudi and Watson. He needs to see that Perry's Mr. Outside and Benson's Mr. Inside and make the adjustments instead of claiming the O-line blocked better for Benson........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Smellkiperjr' post='709981' date='Oct 5 2008, 08:58 PM']Perry even holds the ball like an outside, change-of-pace back. The bruisers who run up the middle cradle the ball and have quick instincts to add the second hand for security upon contact. Outside runners like Perry seem to hold the ball more loosely which allows them more arm movement but seriously impedes ball security. For all Rudi's issues, the one thing he never suffered from was fumbling. I think I took that forgranted. God it's deflating to have a momentum changing drive halted by a fumble. I just hope Lewis doesn't get another case of the misdirected loyalty he suffered from in 2007 with Rudi and Watson. He needs to see that Perry's Mr. Outside and Benson's Mr. Inside and make the adjustments instead of claiming the O-line blocked better for Benson...........[/quote] Rudi actually got some fumbleaya in him in 2006...it wasn't a fumble a game like Perry, but more than we'd come to expect from him. And I don't think I've ever heard Marvin claim that the oline "blocks better" for one back versus another. It's more of a case of the oline being worse than we hoped and having a different person come in and see things develop differently and adjust their hole-hitting accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantNGo Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Benson looked good for sure but the key thing is that it will take time for him to learn the pass blocking. Notice that on every play that he was in, we ran the ball. I'm disappointed by Perry for sure, mostly because of 2 plays: the fumble, and a missed cutback where he had a huge hole (as Phil Simms pointed out). Chris Perry should continue to play a very important role in our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='SlantNGo' post='709986' date='Oct 5 2008, 09:09 PM']Benson looked good for sure but the key thing is that it will take time for him to learn the pass blocking. Notice that on every play that he was in, we ran the ball. I'm disappointed by Perry for sure, mostly because of 2 plays: the fumble, and a missed cutback where he had a huge hole (as Phil Simms pointed out). Chris Perry should continue to play a very important role in our offense.[/quote] I don't think we should bench the guy, but I don't want to see him running too many more plays up the gut anymore. The blocking may be bad or not, but Perry isn't the kind of powerful back that's needed to make something out of nothing, and Benson appears to be that guy. It's only one game, but Benson looked pretty good. Of course, as soon as he did, the coaching staff benched him for fear he might even do better. We can't have that. If we're down, we need to throw it on every down in order to win. We've got the QB and WR's to do it. Fuck, Henry's back, he would have won the game himself if we'd just thrown it his way more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellkiperjr Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 [quote name='Bunghole' post='709983' date='Oct 5 2008, 09:01 PM']Rudi actually got some fumbleaya in him in 2006...it wasn't a fumble a game like Perry, but more than we'd come to expect from him. And I don't think I've ever heard Marvin claim that the oline "blocks better" for one back versus another. It's more of a case of the oline being worse than we hoped and having a different person come in and see things develop differently and adjust their hole-hitting accordingly.[/quote] Last year when Watson was doing well and Rudi was still doing his dancing-with-the-stars routine in the backfield Lewis was asked in a press conference why he didn't use Watson more. Lewis responded by saying that Watson was doing better because the line was blocking better for him. It was a classic. I can't believe you don't remember it. It ranked up there with the TD vs 10 men in the field and Lewis claimed the missing man had nothing to do with the TD. I'll try to find the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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