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Willie Anderson says Andre Smith will start training camp on PUP
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:57 PM
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:00 PM
seems no more than a prediction. Maybe wishful thinking on Willie's part.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:04 PM
Bengals1181, on 28 July 2010 - 10:00 PM, said:
seems no more than a prediction. Maybe wishful thinking on Willie's part.
eh, he knows whats up for hte most part. wouldnt surprise me. he had surgery
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:04 PM
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:08 PM
ThurmanMunster, on 28 July 2010 - 10:04 PM, said:
eh, he knows whats up for hte most part. wouldnt surprise me. he had surgery
Back in FEBRUARY!
And it was said he should be recovered in 10 WEEKS!!!
http://profootballta...ergoes-surgery/
Then it was said he should be ready by Training Camp.
*UGH*
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:09 PM
Shaun Smith's twitter . . .
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:11 PM
Great.
Not going to say that word yet though
Not going to say that word yet though
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:12 PM
Who Dey Forever, on 28 July 2010 - 10:11 PM, said:
Great.
Not going to say that word yet though
Not going to say that word yet though
Too late, you already did.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:21 PM
keep in mind that the Active PUP list is still in play until practice starts at 9am. On that list, he can start practicing at anytime.
Also, if what I just read regarding Welker (who's on the same list) is true, if Welker is on the list for more than a week, he won't count against the 80 man cap number even when he comes back. http://bostonherald....position=recent
Also, if what I just read regarding Welker (who's on the same list) is true, if Welker is on the list for more than a week, he won't count against the 80 man cap number even when he comes back. http://bostonherald....position=recent
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:22 PM
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Active vs Reserve PUP
Rules -
The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp.
If placed on Active PUP, a player can rehab and participate in team meetings but cannot practice.
A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp, so that's why you're seeing the stories popping up now.
A player on Active PUP can be removed from the list at any time during camp.
A player on Active PUP counts against the league mandated roster limit (currently 80).
And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.
At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.
Reserve PUP players are not eligible to play for the first six weeks of the season.
Reserve PUP players do not count against the 53 man roster.
Reserve PUP players have a three week window after Week 6 to practice with the team but a roster decision must be made, either to activate to the 53 or to IR the player, within that timeframe.
Rules -
The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp.
If placed on Active PUP, a player can rehab and participate in team meetings but cannot practice.
A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp, so that's why you're seeing the stories popping up now.
A player on Active PUP can be removed from the list at any time during camp.
A player on Active PUP counts against the league mandated roster limit (currently 80).
And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.
At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.
Reserve PUP players are not eligible to play for the first six weeks of the season.
Reserve PUP players do not count against the 53 man roster.
Reserve PUP players have a three week window after Week 6 to practice with the team but a roster decision must be made, either to activate to the 53 or to IR the player, within that timeframe.
http://community.spo...783/836732.aspx
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:23 PM
oldschooler, on 28 July 2010 - 10:12 PM, said:
Too late, you already did.
Not the other one I'm talking about ;)
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:34 PM
does or can willie come back?
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:39 PM
I believe Willie stated earlier in the year he wanted to come back.
And from what I gather from Shaun Smith's reply, "stopit", not sure I believe Willie's statement.
And from what I gather from Shaun Smith's reply, "stopit", not sure I believe Willie's statement.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:13 PM
JC, on 28 July 2010 - 10:19 PM, said:
Fuck. Move Whit to RT and AC to LT. Roland sucks.
Collins could barely pass block on the right side. Yeah, let's put him on the left to watch Carson's blind side. That sounds like a great idea. :rolleyes:
This move Whit shit is so fucking moronic I can barely stand it anymore. The guy is a franchise left tackle. They don't grow on trees.
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered ... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies ... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the Government, to whom it properly belongs." -Thomas Jefferson - January, 1815
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:20 PM
Bengal Migration, on 28 July 2010 - 11:13 PM, said:
Collins could barely pass block on the right side. Yeah, let's put him on the left to watch Carson's blind side. That sounds like a great idea. :rolleyes:
This move Whit shit is so fucking moronic I can barely stand it anymore. The guy is a franchise left tackle. They don't grow on trees.
This move Whit shit is so fucking moronic I can barely stand it anymore. The guy is a franchise left tackle. They don't grow on trees.
Yeah..because the line was so good last year with that All pro tackle Whit on the blind side..It's a wonder we could never throw the ball!!!
Actually let me reword this. I do not believe Whitworth is a "franchise" left tackle..no matter what Carson says. He is a good left tackle but leaves a lot to be desired. He gives reach-arounds more often than a "franchise" left tackle should. The whole line was terrible at pass blocking last year.
And they were thinking about moving Whit to right tackle a year or two ago..so how is it fucking mornonic? Because he is the best player on old or undrafted free agent line?
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JC, on 28 July 2010 - 11:20 PM, said:
Yeah..because the line was so good last year with that All pro tackle Whit on the blind side..It's a wonder we could never throw the ball!!!
Actually let me reword this. I do not believe Whitworth is a "franchise" left tackle..no matter what Carson says. He is a good left tackle but leaves a lot to be desired. He gives reach-arounds more often than a "franchise" left tackle should. The whole line was terrible at pass blocking last year.
And they were thinking about moving Whit to right tackle a year or two ago..so how is it fucking mornonic? Because he is the best player on old or undrafted free agent line?
Actually let me reword this. I do not believe Whitworth is a "franchise" left tackle..no matter what Carson says. He is a good left tackle but leaves a lot to be desired. He gives reach-arounds more often than a "franchise" left tackle should. The whole line was terrible at pass blocking last year.
And they were thinking about moving Whit to right tackle a year or two ago..so how is it fucking mornonic? Because he is the best player on old or undrafted free agent line?
Yes. Moving your best linemen away from LT is fucking moronic. :wave:
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“Statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”—Mark Twain, Chronicle of Young Satan
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered ... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies ... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the Government, to whom it properly belongs." -Thomas Jefferson - January, 1815
“Statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”—Mark Twain, Chronicle of Young Satan
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:18 AM
Bengal Migration, on 29 July 2010 - 12:01 AM, said:
Yes. Moving your best linemen away from LT is fucking moronic. :wave:
Thanks for the insight! Guess I'll just have to go by your word when Whit is giving James Harrison and Dwight Freeney reach arounds again this year.
Fuck that. I want Levi Jones circa 2005 again. A guy that you know isn't going to let Carson ever get hit.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:34 AM
JC, on 29 July 2010 - 12:18 AM, said:
Thanks for the insight! Guess I'll just have to go by your word when Whit is giving James Harrison and Dwight Freeney reach arounds again this year.
Fuck that. I want Levi Jones circa 2005 again. A guy that you know isn't going to let Carson ever get hit.
Fuck that. I want Levi Jones circa 2005 again. A guy that you know isn't going to let Carson ever get hit.
And you think you're going to get that from Collins? Like I said. Moronic.
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered ... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies ... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the Government, to whom it properly belongs." -Thomas Jefferson - January, 1815
“Statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”—Mark Twain, Chronicle of Young Satan
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered ... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies ... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the Government, to whom it properly belongs." -Thomas Jefferson - January, 1815
“Statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”—Mark Twain, Chronicle of Young Satan
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:36 AM
Stupid double post = Moronic. :D
"Whitworth is the best tackle in football, AFC or NFC, and the fact that he's not on it (the Pro Bowl roster) is a joke." - Carson Palmer
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered ... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies ... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the Government, to whom it properly belongs." -Thomas Jefferson - January, 1815
“Statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”—Mark Twain, Chronicle of Young Satan
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered ... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies ... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the Government, to whom it properly belongs." -Thomas Jefferson - January, 1815
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:42 AM
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Thanks for the insight! Guess I'll just have to go by your word when Whit is giving James Harrison and Dwight Freeney reach arounds again this year.
I don't know that i've ever seen the term "reach around" used as football terminology. Harrison and Freeney should be pretty excited though :1hump:
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 12:53 AM
Bengal Migration, on 29 July 2010 - 12:34 AM, said:
And you think you're going to get that from Collins? Like I said. Moronic.
Okay..so when that moron Paul Alexander started AC at LT against Pittsburgh his rookie year and kept Whit at LG and AC manhandled Harrison it was moronic? C'mon. You act like you saw a ton of snaps from AC at right tackle..when he didn't get that much burn.
We will just have to agree to disagree because this thread is already going to far off-topic. But the whole everyone who thinks moving Whit is a moronic idea seems a little over the top. He's good..not as good as a lot of people make him out to be..
Hope Dre can get it straight and this is Willie trying to stir the pot..(go figure).
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GoBengals, on 29 July 2010 - 12:54 AM, said:
that bridge is fucking burnt.
Heard Willie on Sirius the other day and he let it be known that he would like to play this year if he can get a job. So he is probably watching our situation pretty closely. May just be wishful thinking on his part though.
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I thought Alexander claimed he only scored Whit giving up one sack. I think Whit scored himself 2 or 3.
He's a Franchise LT. He had a better season than the "name" guy in Cleveland. Joe Thomas great tackle as well but he gets beat as well.
His coach, His QB and independent writers thought he was All-Pro, yet someone on this message board knows better? Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
He's a Franchise LT. He had a better season than the "name" guy in Cleveland. Joe Thomas great tackle as well but he gets beat as well.
His coach, His QB and independent writers thought he was All-Pro, yet someone on this message board knows better? Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:24 AM
JC, on 29 July 2010 - 12:53 AM, said:
Okay..so when that moron Paul Alexander started AC at LT against Pittsburgh his rookie year and kept Whit at LG and AC manhandled Harrison it was moronic? C'mon. You act like you saw a ton of snaps from AC at right tackle..when he didn't get that much burn.
We will just have to agree to disagree because this thread is already going to far off-topic. But the whole everyone who thinks moving Whit is a moronic idea seems a little over the top. He's good..not as good as a lot of people make him out to be..
Hope Dre can get it straight and this is Willie trying to stir the pot..(go figure).
We will just have to agree to disagree because this thread is already going to far off-topic. But the whole everyone who thinks moving Whit is a moronic idea seems a little over the top. He's good..not as good as a lot of people make him out to be..
Hope Dre can get it straight and this is Willie trying to stir the pot..(go figure).
Whit got hurt the game before, which is the only reason Collins played that game to begin with.
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Rest in Peace Slim. "Winning makes believers of us all"
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:59 AM
oldschooler, on 29 July 2010 - 07:46 AM, said:
That's not good news...my biggest concern this year is the O-line. It doesn't matter how good your receivers are if your QB is lying on his back.
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oldschooler, on 29 July 2010 - 07:46 AM, said:
so he's on the active PUP. Can practice at any point. They can also put him on the inactive PUP at any point too.
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So much of a bigger story than TO. All this receiver talk is nice, but I still firmly believe the reason our passing game sucked ass last year is that our O-line sucked ass last year. Palmer didn't get sacked because we ran the ball mostly, and he never took more than three step drops...
Not liking this...
Not liking this...
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alleycat, on 29 July 2010 - 08:09 AM, said:
So much of a bigger story than TO. All this receiver talk is nice, but I still firmly believe the reason our passing game sucked ass last year is that our O-line sucked ass last year. Palmer didn't get sacked because we ran the ball mostly, and he never took more than three step drops...
Not liking this...
Not liking this...
this........
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:19 AM
Arkansas Bengal, on 29 July 2010 - 07:59 AM, said:
That's not good news...my biggest concern this year is the O-line. It doesn't matter how good your receivers are if your QB is lying on his back.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:23 AM
Thursday update: Smith sidelined
By GEOFF HOBSON
Posted 25 minutes ago
GEORGETOWN, Ky. _ The Bengals took the field Thursday morning and opened training camp at Georgetown College with right tackle Andre Smithhttp://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif still on the sidelines.
Smith, who missed all of the last camp in a rookie holdout, was one of what appeared to be five players not suited up. The Bengals had hoped the foot surgery that knocked Smith out of all of the spring workouts would be healed enough for him to line up in the first practice.
Under hazy skies with a touch of a breeze, head coach Marvin Lewis commenced his eighth Bengals' camp in helmets and shorts. They aren't expected to go full pads until one of Saturday's two practices.
Also not working were cornerback Leon Hallhttp://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif, left guard Evan Mathishttp://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif, SAM linebacker Rashad Jeantyhttp://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif, and safety Tom Nelsonhttp://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif. Hall apparently tweaked his back in a workout a few days ago and is expected to be out only briefly and could be back as soon as the weekend. Jeanty (leg) and Mathis (foot) are coming off surgeries.
If wide receiver Terrell Owens is going to get No. 81 when he signs later Thursday, it hasn't happened yet. Wide receiver Antonio Bryanthttp://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif took the field with it.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:25 AM
alleycat, on 29 July 2010 - 08:09 AM, said:
So much of a bigger story than TO. All this receiver talk is nice, but I still firmly believe the reason our passing game sucked ass last year is that our O-line sucked ass last year. Palmer didn't get sacked because we ran the ball mostly, and he never took more than three step drops...
Not liking this...
Not liking this...
So why didn't the Bengals address the O-line this offseason then?
Even if Andre is the Opening Day starter, they will roll with 80% of that
suck ass O-line intact.
You notice all the additions to the skill positions though?
Why did the entire organization miss what you clearly see?
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