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Depends on what you’re looking for. IMO Murphy is far superior as an inside rusher but Sweat is better overall as strictly a run defender. Murphy is pretty good there, he’s just not a guy who can hold up consistently in the run game. But I’d argue that neither can BJ Hill. Re Outland, like a lot of those awards, it’s a popularity contest. Not saying Sweat didn’t deserve recognition, but Alex Leatherwood won it, too. Michael Oluwatimi last year. So it doesn’t mean much. If the Bengals want a run stuffer, then yeah, first round is not the place to find it. But looking at the roster, the DT cupboard is pretty bare everywhere, and BJ Hill is on the last year of his deal. Further, DT generally is a weak class this year, whereas supposedly you can still find good OL after the first round. So while I’d prefer a move to protect the franchise and grab an OL, I wouldn’t be shocked if they took Murphy at 18 if he’s there… or failing that, if they love Johnny Newton, maybe a trade back and get another (or a better) pick in round 2 or 3.

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^ Bengals likely now realizing that Byron Murphy will be gone by pick 18, so want to get a look at Newton.

Good points .

Sweat at 80 or 97 would be a better pick than Murphy at 18. There's a reason why Sweat won the Outland rather than his teammate.

I guess we will find out next Thursday for sure.When the Bengals are up to pick at 18.if it isn't traded to Minnesota,then the deal is off.

The Murphy argument might be that because the DL pool is weak this year and the OL group is strong ; we may be better off with Murphy in Rd 1 and other OL in Rd 2/3/4 . I have seen this in mocks where once you get through the first three DT’s it gets sparse until the last day rounds. Conversely there are a lot of good OL in the first 4 rounds - some may be interior only but good players all the same.

Alabama is the new Nebraska for producing overrated O-linemen. Thirty years ago Nebraska turned out lots of guys who looked dominant in college then weren't so good in the NFL. Dean Steinkuhler went 2nd overall in the draft as an example. Latham seems like the latest maxed out Bama lineman in the tradition of Evan Neal and Alex Leatherwood, a guy with good tape but not good tools.

I feel like Latham with his 30-plus starts in the SEC is far more likely to be taken before Mims with his paltry 8 starts. This would be a weird stat to look up, but I'd be willing to bet in the the history of the NFL there has never been an OL with less than double digit college starts taken with a top 20 overall pick.

BBR - JC Latham - 104

TexBengal - Troy Fautanu - 109

I'm presuming Mims will be gone before we get to him. J,C Lathem is my new choice. Question Would the Bengals draft Murphy before Lathem if both in play. The hole at RT might be the deal breaker no?

It would be interesting to see how Goodberry’s rankings last year aligned with the actual selections. 😎

If any receiver advances on that list it will be Garret Wilson and where is Chris Olave???

Here's the link to Joe Goodberry's draft sheet: https://t.co/UjwuYdeeXo

Wooof. Just no.

Probably not but he or Bowers would be an example of a quality player worth taking at 18 over a RT or DT.

and won't be there

I don't think we should take a RB before the 5th round. We have 5 picks in the top 115 (our 4th rounder) and need to find a RT, NT, WR, IOL, and CB with them. Or maybe a TE too. There will be decent RB options on day 3. I'd be happy with Estime in round 5 but not in round 3 and probably not in round 4. If Murphy is off the board before 18, it's not the end of the world. Dehner had a piece hyping him up but our bigger need is at NT and we can get one of those in the mid-rounds.

2 teams that could take possibly Murphy - Minnesota at 11 and Denver at 12 - are also trying to move up to get a QB. Minnesota has 2 number ones as a starting point. Denver doesn't have a lot of draft capital, but there's been talk that Patrick Surtain could be available. Both Arizona and the Chargers could use an elite CB. I also wonder if Penix could be an option for one of these teams if they can't trade up into the top 5.

I wouldn't say 5 QBs is a lock. It would be nice if 5 or 6 were taken ahead of us but I'd put the over/under on that at 4 QBs. There will certainly be more than 1 O-lineman taken though your guess is as good as mine as to who they are.