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Who, in your opinion, do you rank as "The Greatest American," and this can be interpreted however you wish.]]>43298Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:58:30 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/43560-caption-yalta/[center][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Yalta_summit_1945_with_Churchill,_Roosevelt,_Stalin.jpg[/img][/center]43560Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:23:18 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/43258-military-uniforms/
Hey its the off season and its been quiet in this forum.]]>43258Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:47:10 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/41566-north-america-transformation/[center][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Non-Native_American_Nations_Control_over_N_America_1750-2008.gif/536px-Non-Native_American_Nations_Control_over_N_America_1750-2008.gif[/img][/center]41566Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:08:08 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/41250-soviet-techno/[center]


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]]>41250Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:24:04 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/41070-not-exactly-about-history-per-se/
Anyway, for several years I've noticed the History Channel focusing more on Armageddon, natural disasters, and the link between the two. Lately, the shows on the possibility of 2012 being the year where all shit goes to hell (literally) have been...overcovered in my book.

I realize they have a purpose in mind (it's called profit), but I find myself feeling like they are preying on fears to sell their product, and although [i]I[/i] see through them, I wonder if others do or if others even want to see through them. Maybe people just like being afraid provided they think someone/thing is there protecting them (perhaps even inadvertently ala Godzilla) who is tougher than their fears? Is this what sheeple are after?]]>41070Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:16:08 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/40273-hitlers-home-videos/[center][color="#FF0000"][b]Some very interesting stuff ... and amazing how they use modern technology to add sound to his personal silent home videos in order to get a glance at the private man behind the facade. [/b][/color]



[size=3]--->[/size] [url="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=189608705425991617&hl=en"]46 minute Documentary[/url][/center]






[b][u]Some tidbits I found interesting:[/u]

~ Goebbels gave him Mickey Mouse videos as a gift and he liked to watch them

~ He makes a joke to his women guests that they probably didn't like the movie he had showed them ... and probably wanted to see "Gone With The Wind" instead.

~ He hated Goering and especially the fact that he ate meat - because Hitler was a vegetarian.

~ He hated to have to cut down any of the trees around his mountain hideaway (the tree hugging mass murderer) .

~ He had Parkinson's disease that got bad near the end.

~ He was amazed at how the Russians built 35,000 tanks and didn't think it could be done.

~ In private with the Finnish leader he was actually quite complimentary of the Russian army.

~ He loved art and collected paintings.

~ He liked to talk about movies with his drivers.

~ He watched home videos of his speeches to perfect his technique.

~ The man who taught him how to give good speeches after his early ones flopped was ironically Jewish.

~ He never let the public know about his mistress ... because he wanted German women to see him as a sex symbol.

~ He was very cordial and appreciative of his personal photographer and driver.

~ He was afraid to have children because he feared they wouldn't be born with blonde hair and blue eyes. [/b]

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[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/WorldWarII-MilitaryDeaths-Axis-Piechart.png[/img]





[font="Arial Narrow"][u][size=6]Military Casualties [/size][/u]
[size=2][i](I took the time to add up the charts at the link below)[/i][/size]





[size=4][u][color="#FF0000"]Axis[/color][/u][/size]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/50px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.png[/img] German Armed forces

Killed = 5,318,000

Wouned = 6,035,000

Taken Prisoner = 11,100,000




[img]http://www.modelshipbuilding.com/images/japan_naval_ensign.gif[/img] Japan Armed Forces

Killed = 1,940,000

Wouned = 94,500

Taken Prisoner = 40,000


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[color="#FF0000"][u]AXIS TOTAL [/u]

Killed = 7,258,000

Wouned = 6,129,500[/color]








[size=4][color="#0000FF"][u]Allies[/u][/color][/size]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Hammer_and_sickle.svg/43px-Hammer_and_sickle.svg.png[/img] Soviet Armed Forces

Killed = 10,705,345

Wouned = 14,891,517

Taken Prisoner = 5,259,000




[img]http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/shopimages/sections/thumbnails/icon_raf_roundel.gif[/img] British Commonwealth Armed Forces

Killed = 580,000

Wouned = 475,000

Taken Prisoner = 318,000




[img]http://www.murphsmilitaria.com/webstore/categories/flag_usa.jpg[/img] United States Armed Forces

Killed = 462,016

Wouned = 689,746

Taken Prisoner = 130,201[/font]



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[font="Arial Narrow"][color="#0000FF"][u]ALLIE TOTAL [/u]

Killed = 11,747,361

Wouned = 16,056,263 [/color][/font]








[i]... then when you add civilians [/i]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/WorldWarII-DeathsByCountry-Barchart.png/800px-WorldWarII-DeathsByCountry-Barchart.png[/img][/center][/quote][/b][/size]


[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties[/url]]]>38710Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:12:54 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/39717-hoover-planned-mass-jailing-in-1950/ [size=4][u][b]Hoover Planned Mass Jailing in 1950 [/b]
By TIM WEINER
December 23, 2007
NY Times[/u][/size]


[b]A newly declassified document[/b] shows that J. Edgar [b]Hoover[/b], the longtime [b]director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation[/b], [b]had a plan to suspend habeas corpus and imprison some 12,000 Americans he suspected of disloyalty.[/b]

Hoover sent his plan to the White House on July 7, 1950, 12 days after the Korean War began. [b]It envisioned putting suspect Americans in military prisons.[/b]

[b]Hoover wanted President Harry S. Truman to proclaim the mass arrests necessary to “protect the country against treason, espionage and sabotage.”[/b] The F.B.I would “apprehend all individuals potentially dangerous” to national security, Hoover’s proposal said. [b]The arrests would be carried out under “a master warrant attached to a list of names”[/b] provided by the bureau.

[b]The names were part of an index that Hoover had been compiling for years.[/b] “The index now contains approximately twelve thousand individuals, of which approximately ninety-seven per cent are citizens of the United States,” he wrote.

“In order to make effective these apprehensions, [b]the proclamation suspends the Writ of Habeas Corpus,” [/b]it said.

[b]Habeas corpus, the right to seek relief from illegal detention, has been a fundamental principle of law for seven centuries.[/b] The [b]Bush administration’s decision to hold suspects for years at Guantánamo Bay[/b], Cuba, has made habeas corpus a [b]contentious issue for Congress and the Supreme Court today[/b].

[b]The Constitution says habeas corpus shall not be suspended “unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion[/b], the public safety may require it.” The plan proposed by Hoover, the head of the F.B.I. from 1924 to 1972, stretched that clause to include “threatened invasion” or “attack upon United States troops in legally occupied territory.”

After the terrorist attacks of [b]Sept. 11, 2001, President Bush issued an order that effectively allowed the United States to hold suspects indefinitely without a hearing, a lawyer, or formal charges.[/b] In September 2006, Congress passed a law suspending habeas corpus for anyone deemed an “unlawful enemy combatant.”

But the Supreme Court has reaffirmed the right of American citizens to seek a writ of habeas corpus. This month the court heard arguments on whether about 300 foreigners held at Guantánamo Bay had the same rights. It is expected to rule by next summer.

Hoover’s plan was declassified Friday as part of a collection of cold-war documents concerning intelligence issues from 1950 to 1955. The collection makes up a new volume of “The Foreign Relations of the United States,” a series that by law has been published continuously by the State Department since the Civil War.

Hoover’s plan called for “the permanent detention” of the roughly 12,000 suspects at military bases as well as in federal prisons. The F.B.I., he said, had found that the arrests it proposed in New York and California would cause the prisons there to overflow.

So the bureau had arranged for “detention in military facilities of the individuals apprehended” in those states, he wrote.

[b]The prisoners eventually would have had a right to a hearing[/b] under the Hoover plan. The hearing board would have been a panel made up of one judge and two citizens. [b]But the hearings “will not be bound by the rules of evidence,”[/b] his letter noted.

The [b]only modern precedent for Hoover’s plan was the Palmer Raids of 1920, [/b]named after the attorney general at the time. [b]The raids[/b], executed in large part by Hoover’s intelligence division[b], swept up thousands of people suspected of being communists and radicals.[/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/37.gif[/img]

Previously declassified documents show that the F.B.I.’s “security index” of suspect Americans predated the cold war. In March 1946, Hoover sought the authority to detain Americans “who might be dangerous” if the United States went to war. In August 1948, Attorney General Tom Clark gave the F.B.I. the power to make a master list of such people.

Hoover’s July 1950 letter was addressed to Sidney W. Souers, who had served as the first director of central intelligence and was then a special national-security assistant to Truman. The plan also was sent to the executive secretary of the National Security Council, whose members were the president, the secretary of defense, the secretary of state and the military chiefs.

In September 1950, Congress passed and the president signed a law authorizing the detention of “dangerous radicals” if the president declared a national emergency. Truman did declare such an emergency in December 1950, after China entered the Korean War. But no known evidence suggests he or any other president approved any part of Hoover’s proposal.[/quote]


[url="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/23/washington/23habeas.html?ex=1356066000&en=51115b422df80200&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss"]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/23/washingt...and&emc=rss[/url]]]>39717Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:53:47 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/39348-wars-through-the-ages/[center][img]http://clf.uua.org/quest/2006/05/graveyard.jpg[/img][/center]39348Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:06:43 +0000https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/38916-historical-roots-of-thanksgiving/
[color="#FF8C00"][u][b]Thanksgiving’s true historical roots are not about happy Indians and Pilgrims sharing supper:[/b][/u][/color][/center]

[b][color="#A0522D"][i]The first day of thanksgiving took place in 1637 amidst the Pilgrims war against the Pequots. 700 men, women, and children of the Pequot tribe were gathered for their annual green corn dance on what is now Groton, Connecticut. Dutch and English mercenaries surrounded the camp and proceeded to shoot, stab, butcher and burn alive all 700 people. The next day the Massachusetts Bay Colony held a feast in celebration and the governor declared "a day of thanksgiving." In the ensuing madness of the Indian extermination, natives were scalped, burned, mutilated and sold into slavery, and a feast was held in celebration every time a successful massacre took place. The killing frenzy got so bad that even the Churches of Manhattan announced a day of "thanksgiving" to celebrate victory over the "heathen savages," and many celebrated by kicking the severed heads of Pequot people through the streets like soccer balls.[/i][/size]
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