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No question, that'd be big. Collins is an $8.5 mil cap hit in 2024. Carman is $700k. Collins may be the better natural athlete, IDK, but Carman seems to have found his fire. I'll take the slightly less gifted athlete that brings it every down over someone coasting along on potential. If he's ready to be a pro that money is better spent extending JC long term. Obviously I'm pulling for the guy. He was playing with an attitude at the end of last year. His technique and recognition clearly need work but that desire to knock a defender on their ass is something that can't easily be taught. Can only hope the rest will come to him now that he's getting on the field.

If Carman turns around and plays like he has shown flashes of well give Pollack credit for him too.

If Collins is healthy and more importantly plays like he's capable of playing he will be RT1, no question. I think he has the ability to be great. It's his durability and willingness to put in the work that I'm less certain about. You may be right about Karras and neither of the backups are on his level, but that's a position that seems to take a few years to grow into, Hill is only 23 so let's not throw him out just yet. Kinda feel like it's up to Pollack to get it out of these guys. He's supposed to be a great coach but he has yet to field a great OL here. The 2 really good players on the line were already good when they signed with us. Give him some credit for Volson but that's about it.

Back when Jonah asked to be traded, there were reports (I think it was Breer or Shefter) that he would have a trade market if the Bengals wanted to move him. Various teams were mentioned with Jacksonville not even getting involved until Cam Robinson's PED suspension. It's a fact the Bengals didn't get an offer they accepted but it's not unreasonable to see who the potential trade partners would have been. PFF thought he'd go to Tampa as the replacement for Donovan Smith. In some mocks, I was able to trade him to the Colts and Commanders without any trouble. Quite a few teams could have used him on their left side if healthy. Keeping both Williams and Collins seems unlikely. The Bengals can keep Collins and Mixon until final cuts without owing them anything for 2023 if they don't look like contributors. Collins seemed to be moving pretty well this week so my current guess is he plays in a preseason game and isn't on PUP at the start of the year. He may have a trade market as well if he's able to play week 1. The O-line position where we should worry about our depth is C. We have a logjam of bodies at RT but we're screwed if Karras goes down. Trey Hill and Ben Brown have shown nothing in the NFL. The Vikings were trying to trade Cook before the draft but nobody wanted his contract. He may take a paycut to stay in Minnesota but if not is likely to be cut. They are trying to clear cap space so they can extend Justin Jefferson and an expensive RB is a luxury.

Til they run out..😎

Im beating a dead horse but having Williams Carman and Collins on the roster gives the team depth ... One of them will win the job but injuries happen....depth helps.. Fellin pretty good about the other 4 starters ..

The only problem with that is the Chiefs are favored to win all 17 games at this time. But I don't think that the Bengals will go 15-2 or that the Chiefs will go 17-0. Anyone looking for a sleeper to earn the #1 seed should consider Jacksonville. Not only do the Jags get to play 6 divisional games the very weak AFC South but also another 4 games against the very weak NFC South. They also get to play both the Bengals and Chiefs at home.

Lol...Burrow is 1-5 vs the Browns....they don't need ZDarius Smith's help to beat the Bengals. Suggesting a team is trading for a specific player to go against a specific team is laughable especially when they have beat that team more than any team in the division. Maybe the Browns got Smith because they lost Clowney, weren't able to address it in the draft, and needed a vet pass rusher on the roster to compliment Garrett...or the Browns front office and coaching staff has a daily meeting on how to bet the Bengals and this is phase 1 of their plan.