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4 minutes ago, T-Dub said:
LOL this mf thinks he's a therapist now. tl;dr
Get over yourself, goofball.
I am a therapist....it is projection. And Drew Sample is the greatest TE that the world has ever seen.
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We will be running a lot more 12 sets this year with Gesicki and Sample. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they targeted a backup blocking TE late in the draft to ensure that position had depth.
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50 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
I think the Bengals will take Dallin Holker from Colo St with the Rd 3 comp pick. As he can block and catch.
i thought he was more of the Big RB type and older...is that another guy?
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9 hours ago, T-Dub said:
Justin Smith was a far more productive DE than Sample is a TE. They do have one thing in common though: career longest reception (INT return).*
Sample is actually 23 yards vs Smith's 21 but...
Remind me why he had to play the role of blocking RB again? I'll give you a hint:
Not sure how he was the "12 starter" playing <50% of the offensive snaps but sure, OK. I mean, they'd have to spend at least a 5th round pick to replace that kind of production at a fraction of the price.
Hey who knows, maybe his 6th NFL season will be his breakout year.
The 12th starter is going to play less than 50% of the snaps....that's how math works.
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5 hours ago, sparky151 said:
That doesn't make much sense. We're paying Sample more than Trent Brown, whom I'd assume you will concede is a better blocker?
We could get a rookie for a quarter of Sample's average pay. This seems like Bobby Hart all over again. Bengals decide they must have some below average player and are willing to pay him whatever it takes to get to yes. As opposed to getting a better player who coincidentally is also cheaper.
Sample's contract was front loaded. He makes 4.9 million this year and then. 4.1 million for the next 2 years. His AAV is 3M per. So he's not on average making more than Trent Brown. 3M per is not an outlandish contract for what is essentially your 12th starter on offense.
Sample is great at his role. A rookie would have been a crapshoot.
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5 hours ago, T-Dub said:
What versatility? He blocks OK, certainly not dominant but serviceable. That's about it. Every year they bring in some FA TE to actually go do TE stuff.
He's a 2nd round bust they refuse to give up on. Even with Irv Smith giving us absolutely nothing last year Sample was on the field for a little less than half the time (not sure if ST snaps count & are inflating that number).
Just seems like another example of a marginal player that the team is unwilling to move on from because of the initial investment.
He literally was playing blocking RB in passing situations last year.
These are essentially 2 different positions. Blocking TE vs Pass catching TE. He doesn't play the same position as Irv Smith. It would be like saying why didn't Mike Hilton fill in for Chido as an outside corner.
On a team trying to protect your starting QB a blocking TE matters. He had the 5th most pass blocking snaps of any TE in the league last year.
He doesn't make the impact a 2nd rounder should but he is a huge part of the offense and making it go.
They don't want to move on because blocking TE is important. Why make a hole to just have to fill it.
ALSO with the new kickoffs he's going to be even more important.
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2 hours ago, sparky151 said:
Yeah, the Sample contract doesn't make any sense. He's been a free agent the last couple of years and had no outside interest. So he re-signed with the Bengals for vet min. What did he do last year that made him so valuable? He's a good blocker and his hands are ok, but he isn't a route runner or much of a receiving threat. You can get that on day 3 of the draft from a rookie. If some other team was offering him that, Bengals should have let them sign him and take the comp pick.
Versatility. Played FB at times. He is a huge cog in making the offense go. If you look at blocking TE's like Josh Oliver etc. I think he probably had a market and wanted to stay here. That deal is really just 3M per year not to have to replace our Blockig Te, That's not bad at all.
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25 minutes ago, sparky151 said:
Drew Sample's contract not such a steal.
They front loaded it. That's 5/9ths of it and it's for 3 years. I don't mind it but a lot of twitter peeps thought it was dumb
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Stealers are doing what I always want us to do. Add veterans on league min deals. Added Patterson, Lowery, Watkins. Just a lot of cheap talent. We only sign players we know will make an impact. -
I think RAS and production is good at all levels. the Toledo CB is probably a stud.
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5 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:
He's probably as "nimble" as Zeus or
Mountain Brown.
Fuaga seems to fit that spot better but he also with Lathem will be OTs imo.
I wonder if they gamble that a deep tackle class means a guy is available in round 2 and they tackle DT in round 1.
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Did a brief watch of Latham and it seems like he holds a ton
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Loving Malik Washington from VA
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Nik Scott to Panthers
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58 minutes ago, PatternMaster said:
I hope the Bengals go after Calais Campbell, he's the best option that is available. I know he's 37 years old but he's still playing at a high level and is a great locker room guy that any young player they bring in can learn from.
He should definitely have been on the list. He would make an impact somewhere for sure.
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We have 29 roster spots left....10 draft picks.....but I don't think we want 29 rookies on the roster...I'd like them to sign a free agent at every position. I don't really understand it but you can sign some veterans for below the league minimum because of subsidies from the league.
QB Burrow 29 Browning 25 2
This is a camp arm and future practice squader and maybe an assistant quality control coach. I tend to think who would Burrow and Browning benefit most from being on the practice squad.
-Logan Woodside was a draft pick here some years ago
-Brian Hoyer has been with 11 different NFL teams and is an Ohio Native
-Matt Barkley was with the Bengal already and has been with 12 NFL teams
-AJ McCarron is the most likely as he could play Spring ball in St. Louis and Winter ball in Cincy. He has eventual coach written all over him. Or tattoo artist.
RB Moss 26 Brown 27 Williams 25 Evans 25 4 One of the draft picks probably goes here for a guy to compete with Evans and Williams. I think it's wisest to do on day 3 because an earlier investment seems like a waste for a player that is unlikely to play for 2 years. (I love Emani Bailey and George Holani). Moss is the FA in this case. Other considerations.
-Boston Scott: Veteran, great character, will play special teams, won't need loads of snaps to make an impact.
-Cordoralle Patterson: Probably does too much of what we already have but a dynamic KR, if that matters at all. High character as well.
-Dare Ogunbowale: 7 special teams tackles last year. 11 the year before. 7 before that. 10 before that. Decent out of the backfield.
WR Chase 26 Irwin 25 Pryor 3 WR Higgins 25 Iosivas 27 Jackson 3 WR Jones 27 Lassiter 2 We probably have 5 locks and a rookie. And they like those 3 future guys in gray. On a less settled roster they might be battling for a 6th roster spot. I'd still add a veteran slot receiver. And there are plenty of them.
-Deonte Harty-Just 26, great speed and agility, experience returning punts and kicks, 36 catch, 570 yard season with New Orleans 2 years ago.
-Scotty Miller-BGSU Grad, 4.39 speed, Just 27, 33-501-3 Season in Tampa 2020
-Jamal Agnew-4.34 speed, older at 29, only played WR for 4 years after starting his NFL career at corner, great kick returner,
-Quez Watkins-Just 26, 25 career starts, 43 catches for 647 yards in 2021
-Paris Campbell-He's my dude, has the size we like in 6-0 208, Ex OSU guy from Akron, Great kick returner and 4.31 speed before injuries, 63, catches, 623 yards in 2022. 27.
TE Sample 27 Gesicki 25 Hudson 25 3 Gesicki and Sample are a good yin and yang, Hudson was a nice surprise last year. Could use a balanced guy who can both block and catch passes. That probably comes in the draft.
-CJ Uzomah-He can do both but how well at this point?
-Logan Thomas-Played QB for Zac years ago in Miami when he was starting out.
-Brycen Hopkins-A guy with some upside still who hasn't found footing in LA
LT Brown 27 Carman 25 LG Volson 26 Ford 25 C Karras 25 Hill 25 Gilliam RG Cappa 26 Kirkland RT Brown 25 Smith 25 Cochran 25 The starters seem settled although many of us would like to have competition at LG. Ford is probably the only lock amongst the backups.
-Brian Allen was a reserve center in LAR in Taylor's last year there.
-Conner McGovern was coached by Pollack in 2020 and Riscati in 2019. He has 91 career starts with most snaps at C and RG
-Pat Elflein is from Columbus and played at OSU, coached by Pollack in 2020, injured last year but 64 career starts
-Dalton Risner would compete at LG but reportedly wants too much money. Coached by Riscati at both Denver and Minnesota
-Greg Van Roten had a great year last year but he's 34. Can play both guard spots and center, 71 career starts
-Max Scharping will be brought back I assume, learned center last year
-Cameron Fleming can backup both tackle spots and played for Rascati in 21
K McPherson 25 1 P Robbins 27 1 LS Adomitis 25 1 They will add competition at P and with 10 draft picks it could very well be a back-to-back punter year. There are 6 guys who could be on their radar, 5 kicked last year, 2 are street free agents, one was released by Pitt, 1 is still on the Titans but likely to be cut, 1 is in the UFL, and then there is Dru Chrisman.
Siposs-SFA 31 59.1 8-43.4-54-2 Wing-Brahmas 33 58.9 11-45-52-3 Cooney-SFA 28 58.4 13-45.5-56-2 Chrisman-FA 27 57.5 28-47.8-65-13 Stats from 2022 Robbins-Bengals 26 56.7 76-44.3-62-20 2027 Harvin-Stealers 26 51.2 78-43.8-63-30 CC Zetner-Titans 26 46.9 38-44.9-64-10 2025 LE Hubbard 26 Sample 25 Ossai 25 3 LT Tufele 25 Bell 25 2 RT Hill 25 Rankins 26 Carter 26 Davis Maxwell 26 5 RE Hendrickson 26 Murphy 27 Gunter 3 The edge spot is somewhat settled and there is lots of 3T talent now. The issue is the NT spot.
-Austin Johnson played all over the line at 314lbs and had 46 tackles.
-Teiar Tart seems to be the best fit but he left without a contract, rumors are bad fit off the field
-Albert Huggins has played for 4 teams in 4 years but had 5 starts last year
-Nick Williams is 34 but he fits personality wise and had 7 tackles for loss last year. 48 career starts across 6 teams
-Brian Mone didn't play last year but he is huge 6-3 366
-Mike Purcell fits personality wise but is 33, 45 career starts and 25 tackles last year
-Carl Lawson makes sense for a return on a league minimum deal
-Clowney had 9.5 sacks last year and is available. He's an upgrade to the DE rotation.
WLB Pratt 26 Davis-Gaither 25 Heyward 3 MLB Wilson 28 Harper 26 2 Bailey and Bachie are probably back at this point but they signed Harper to play and have 10 draft picks many in the spots where depth LB makes a ton of sense.
-Deion Jones makes some sense. Add a veteran with 91 career starts, great in coverage, captain in ATL but doesn't play special teams.
S Battle 27 Bell 25 Anderson 26 3 S Stone 26 Hill 27 2 Is Dax Hill a safety? it probably doesn't matter. With Battle-Stone and Bell the 4th couldsafety be Anderson or a draft pick. They have done enough remaking their Safety position this offseason.
CB Taylor-Britt 26 Ivey 27 2 CB Turner 27 George 2 NB Hilton 25 Davis 25 2 Could use a veteran to give Ivey and Turner another year to develop. That list is long
-Gilmore would be a catch at 34 still. Started all 17 games last year, 1055 snaps
-Steven Nelson started 16 games last year and picked off 4 balls
-Tradavious White was injured but has upside
-Antonio Hamilton would probably be league minimum, played 559 snaps and played for Anarumo in 2018.
-Rock Ya Sin has 39 career starts but didn't play much last year
-Akhello Witherspoon is a target for me every year. 17 starts for the Rams last year, 3int
-Xavier Howard was coached by both Burks and Anarumo in Miami. He played 745 snaps but his coverage rating was down
-Patrick Peterson is wrapping up a 200 start career but had 16 last year for Pittsburgh
-Wallace started 9 games for Pitt last year with 11 passes defended.
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Now sign Risner
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Remember when we were a fax away from trading AJ McCarron for a 2nd and 3rd
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5 minutes ago, JC said:
I can’t find the final ADOT but he was not pushing the ball down the field. I can’t imagine the ADOT got much better post Vikings game. Probably hovered right around that 6.2 mark.
Could he be a dollar store Purdy? Maybe. But at the same time - there aren’t many teams in the NFL set up like the 9ers or Bengals offensively for that matter.
Its probabloy on pro football reference.
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Just now, PatternMaster said:
If Brown is such an obvious upgrade over Becton, who didn't want to play here...why did the Bengals not target Brown from the beginning of FA, like why waste time on a lesser player like Becton?
Is it purely because of the Frank Pollack connection, because if so that is a huge waste of time and misstep? This idea that Pollack was going to rehab Becton's career is hilarious because he hasn't been able to develop one decent starter out of the 7 draft picks the Bengals have used on the offensive line in the past 5 years. These are talented players who have all the tools to be successful but Pollack has only managed to get one to start, and he's the worst player on the offensive line, a legit liability that should be replaced.
The Bengals wasted a whole week on Becton when they should have been targeting Brown from the beginning, but better late than never...I guess...let's hope they get a deal done with Brown.
That is interesting. I wonder if he wanted to play LT. I also wonder if he will cost more.
Brown is pretty clearly much steadier in terms of play and even durability than Becton.
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2 hours ago, Jamie_B said:
Interesting, I was not aware of his status next year.
That said I am still a strike while the iron is hot guy and think you can get something for him, and really do right by him in giving him a chance to start somewhere next year.
He was a 28 year old rookie last year. In fact...now that I think about it if Stroud wasn't so good he should have been on all rookie teams.
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1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:
Browning is only here for a year now, had we used his success we could turned it into more help for the long term.
He will be an exclusive rights guy next year too.
I do like the idea of developing someone this year so we can trade Browning next year.
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Lets go!
Season starts next week. Lets fly with McCarron!
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Browns are cornering the market on black QBs. Just signed Tyler Huntley after signing Jameis Winston. I really like Huntley.
We were interested in DTR last draft. Maybe a practice squad guy for us this year?
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