Mac now running windows

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='The Scales' post='248076' date='Apr 12 2006, 01:59 AM']LOL
HA HA
STFU
As a "GAMER" you would have no need to purchase a MAC, but as a graphic Designer, Film Compositor, Film Editor, Writer, Special Effects dude or dudette, composer, musician or anyone who sits infront of a computer to accomplish some if not all of thier work it would behoove the wise to give a long hard unbiased look at what Macintosh has to offer...[/quote]


They should take a look at Avid they pretty much are the industry standard, at least for TV studios. By the way what does Avid run on? Windows and Mac.

*Sings* Anything you can do I can do better...

[The_Joker]

See I need Help Thread. (Computer Having Problems)... [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angel.gif[/img]

[whodey319]

[quote name='The_Joker' post='248153' date='Apr 12 2006, 08:57 AM']See I need Help Thread. (Computer Having Problems)... [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angel.gif[/img][/quote]
perfect, a $2000 non upgradable computer. what i always wanted

[The_Joker]

[quote name='whodey319' post='248169' date='Apr 12 2006, 08:41 AM']perfect, a $2000 non upgradable computer. what i always wanted[/quote]
You forgot the most important thing....IT WORKS!

They are upgrdeable depending on what you buy.

[whodey319]

[quote name='The_Joker' post='248172' date='Apr 12 2006, 09:43 AM']You forgot the most important thing....IT WORKS!

They are upgrdeable depending on what you buy.[/quote]
so what, you pay more so you can upgrade. when i can buy a pc that equals a mac for cheaper and also have thousands of parts available for me to buy to upgrade it further. Plus have any software and games i want at my fingertips. oh wait, macs are pretty so they gotta be better plus they got that sweetass 1 button mouse so things dont get too complicated

[The_Joker]

[quote name='whodey319' post='248175' date='Apr 12 2006, 08:55 AM']so what, you pay more so you can upgrade. when i can buy a[b] pc that equals a mac[/b] for cheaper and also have thousands of parts available for me to buy to upgrade it further. Plus have any software and games i want at my fingertips. oh wait, macs are pretty so they gotta be better plus they got that sweetass 1 button mouse so things dont get too complicated[/quote]
Mac>PC never =

Software and games for PC=shared(stolen) corrupted files and therefore most of the problem.

One button mouse is gone now.

NEXT!!

[Ben]

MAC people scare me. They remind me of stealer fans

[The_Joker]

[quote name='Ben' post='248179' date='Apr 12 2006, 09:07 AM']MAC people scare me. They remind me of stealer fans[/quote]

[whodey319]

[quote name='Ben' post='248179' date='Apr 12 2006, 10:07 AM']MAC people scare me. They remind me of stealer fans[/quote]
very true.....think they are better than everyone else but dont get why everyone makes fun of them and dont like them. and dont understand why people dont get it

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='Ben' post='248179' date='Apr 12 2006, 10:07 AM']MAC people scare me. They remind me of stealer fans[/quote]

[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img]

No they arent that bad.

[Guest mongoloido]

[quote name='whodey319' post='248196' date='Apr 12 2006, 11:00 AM']very true.....think they are better than everyone else but dont get why everyone makes fun of them and dont like them. and dont understand why people dont get it[/quote]


The thing that bugs me are the Windows people who trash Mac people without having any understanding of what they are talking about. Mac people have an understanding of both operating systems, because every day life still demands an understanding of Windows. The overwhelming majority of Mac bashers have never taken OSX for a full shakedown. It is an amazing OS, that robust, powerful, secure, and extremely stable. Windows machines run everything on the planet. Both have their merits. Neither is the complete package... Unless one computer can run both.


Someone earlier posted the notion that they can now buy an overpriced mac that can do exactly what their cheaper Windows machine can do. Absolutely incorrect. Your Windows machine won't boot OSX. Having the honest to God capability to run anything and everything under the best possible operating system is a huge boon to those wanting to get the most out of their computer...

I have a Windows gaming box. I have a Mac desktop too. I love them both. If I had waiting long enough for Boot Camp, I most definitely would have purchased a MacBook Pro instead of the Dell laptop. My Dell rocks the house, but the MacBook with Boot Camp is definitely the most powerful portable option around. How can it not? (Please refrain from bringing up some Alienware/Falcon Northwest/Voodoo gaming computer of doom. They're entirely too specialized to be the best portable option for anything but gaming)

[whodey319]

[quote name='mongoloido' post='249264' date='Apr 14 2006, 10:12 AM']The thing that bugs me are the Windows people who trash Mac people without having any understanding of what they are talking about. Mac people have an understanding of both operating systems, because every day life still demands an understanding of Windows. The overwhelming majority of Mac bashers have never taken OSX for a full shakedown. It is an amazing OS, that robust, powerful, secure, and extremely stable. Windows machines run everything on the planet. Both have their merits. Neither is the complete package... Unless one computer can run both.
Someone earlier posted the notion that they can now buy an overpriced mac that can do exactly what their cheaper Windows machine can do. Absolutely incorrect. Your Windows machine won't boot OSX. Having the honest to God capability to run anything and everything under the best possible operating system is a huge boon to those wanting to get the most out of their computer...

I have a Windows gaming box. I have a Mac desktop too. I love them both. If I had waiting long enough for Boot Camp, I most definitely would have purchased a MacBook Pro instead of the Dell laptop. My Dell rocks the house, but the MacBook with Boot Camp is definitely the most powerful portable option around. How can it not? (Please refrain from bringing up some Alienware/Falcon Northwest/Voodoo gaming computer of doom. They're entirely too specialized to be the best portable option for anything but gaming)[/quote]
I have a windows based desktop computer, a linux server at my office, and i can fix my sisters mac when needed because i had to learn it in college.

[Ben]

[quote name='mongoloido' post='249264' date='Apr 14 2006, 10:12 AM']The thing that bugs me are the Windows people who trash Mac people without having any understanding of what they are talking about. Mac people have an understanding of both operating systems, because every day life still demands an understanding of Windows. The overwhelming majority of Mac bashers have never taken OSX for a full shakedown. It is an amazing OS, that robust, powerful, secure, and extremely stable. Windows machines run everything on the planet. Both have their merits. Neither is the complete package... Unless one computer can run both.
Someone earlier posted the notion that they can now buy an overpriced mac that can do exactly what their cheaper Windows machine can do. Absolutely incorrect. Your Windows machine won't boot OSX. Having the honest to God capability to run anything and everything under the best possible operating system is a huge boon to those wanting to get the most out of their computer...

I have a Windows gaming box. I have a Mac desktop too. I love them both. If I had waiting long enough for Boot Camp, I most definitely would have purchased a MacBook Pro instead of the Dell laptop. My Dell rocks the house, but the MacBook with Boot Camp is definitely the most powerful portable option around. How can it not? (Please refrain from bringing up some Alienware/Falcon Northwest/Voodoo gaming computer of doom. They're entirely too specialized to be the best portable option for anything but gaming)[/quote]

I have no experience w/ apple desktops. but the hardware in their laptops is absolute shit.

[Jamie_B]

[quote]Absolutely incorrect.[/quote]

What I meant by this is that there isnt anything the Mac offers that I cant get on my PC. However thats not the case with Macs and we both know that.

The days of Macs being better for Video production are over, as the Industry Standard Avid now runs on both machines.

The days of Macs being better in the Graphics business are over, all of the adobe producs are on both machines. Corel? Same. Macromedia? (Who is now owned by Adobe) Same.

The days of Macs being better in the Printing business are over, as XP and printers are pretty much printing what you see on the screen color wise (the big reason Macs held that marked for so long had to do with that)

Macs have never been worthy of being a webserver.

Software development? I laugh.

Ok they have Ipods, but guess what I own one as well and I have no reason to not use my PC with it, there isnt anything that the Mac version of Itunes offers me that I cant get on Windows.


If I own a Windows Media Center PC I can stream my music/videos/pictures to my xbox 360. Therefore not having to put them on the harddrive and saving space for my games. Can I do that on a Mac?

Windows serisoulsy pwns Mac in the software development area. Really its not even close.

Webserver? While Unix may still be the dominate OS, IIS on Windows 2003 still is far ahead of the Mac.

This is as it stands today, when Vita comes out in Janurary I could rehash this and give you things it does that Macs cant (I'm jonesing for the fact that DirectX 10 will allow for windows apps to take advantage of it's API's...think about what the gaming industry did with DirectX and apply that to the windows app world...whoa)

I have played with both OSes (I had to take a shower after I messed with OSX) and I can crash them both. Stabiltiy comes from the user having a clue, not the OS.

So again I state, there isnt anything that OSX offers a PC user that the cant get with their PC.

[Guest mongoloido]

[quote name='Ben' post='249280' date='Apr 14 2006, 11:05 AM']I have no experience w/ apple desktops. but the hardware in their laptops is absolute shit.[/quote]


dual core cpus?
x1600 graphics card?
ddr2 ram?

you have a funny definition of shit

[Ben]

[quote name='mongoloido' post='249355' date='Apr 14 2006, 12:49 PM']dual core cpus?
x1600 graphics card?
ddr2 ram?

you have a funny definition of shit[/quote]


durability is what i meant.. and apple support sucks. You look at a powerbook funny and some random part will die.

[Guest steggyD]

[quote name='The Scales' post='248076' date='Apr 12 2006, 01:59 AM']LOL
HA HA
STFU
As a "GAMER" you would have no need to purchase a MAC, but as a graphic Designer, Film Compositor, Film Editor, Writer, Special Effects dude or dudette, composer, musician or anyone who sits infront of a computer to accomplish some if not all of thier work it would behoove the wise to give a long hard unbiased look at what Macintosh has to offer...[/quote]
Uhh, wrong. As Jamie already stated, there's Avid, which can be run on a PC. Most graphic designers do use Macs, for some reason, although all the software can be run on a PC. From what I gather, most of them really just find that they like the "artistic value" of the Mac. But most of them don't really know about computers, more than how to open Photoshop, Quark and the likes. Composers, musicians, ahh, who cares.

As to anyone who sits in front of a computer to accomplish some of their work, I call bullshit. Special effects, animation, especially of the 3D kind. All done on PC's, well a big percentage of it. I work on PC's. As a matter of fact, most of the software I use, doesn't even run on a Mac.

I'm here in NY. I've trained with graphic designers, 3D animators, and all kinds of other artists. So I think I may know a thing or two. But you go on living your "artistic" life with your Mac. I bet you like to protest the use of animals at the circus too, right?

[Jamie_B]

I also forgot. Protools in industry standard for music editing... Runs on both.


Keep trying Macboys, your fighting a losing battle. But he enjoy your 6%.

[Ben]

I really dont understand this feeling of superiority mac users feel. Use whatever the fuck you want. I cant personally see a reason for me to switch to mac. I would probably switch to Linux first(osX is basically linux w/ a better gui)



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[Ben]

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[|Montana Bengal|]

[quote name='mongoloido' post='249264' date='Apr 14 2006, 08:12 AM']Your Windows machine won't boot OSX.[/quote]


Funny, I thought they'd been doing this for a little while...[url="http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page"]http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page[/url] or [url="http://www.osx86project.org/"]http://www.osx86project.org/[/url]

Just because there isn't a company like Apple behind it, doesn't mean that it isn't happening and hasn't happened. Most Mac people don't like Windows and now they are happy that it runs on their machines. Funny because Microsoft has the potential to dominate even more of the market with this happening. A Mac will just be another Dell or IBM. Only Dells and IBMs are less expensive.

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='Montana Bengal' post='249425' date='Apr 14 2006, 02:18 PM']Funny, I thought they'd been doing this for a little while...[url="http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page"]http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page[/url] or [url="http://www.osx86project.org/"]http://www.osx86project.org/[/url]

Just because there isn't a company like Apple behind it, doesn't mean that it isn't happening and hasn't happened. Most Mac people don't like Windows and now they are happy that it runs on their machines. [b]Funny because Microsoft has the potential to dominate even more of the market with this happening. A Mac will just be another Dell or IBM. Only Dells and IBMs are less expensive.[/b][/quote]


Nail meet head.

[Jamie_B]

[img]http://battellemedia.com/images/bill-gates.jpg[/img]

[b][size=3]"All your PC's are belong to us"[/size][/b]

[|Montana Bengal|]

Resistance [b]is[/b] futile

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Oh yes...is has finally come...now Mac users can be just like everyone else. It is so comforting.

[Guest mongoloido]

[quote name='Montana Bengal' post='249425' date='Apr 14 2006, 02:18 PM']Funny, I thought they'd been doing this for a little while...[url="http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page"]http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page[/url] or [url="http://www.osx86project.org/"]http://www.osx86project.org/[/url]

Just because there isn't a company like Apple behind it, doesn't mean that it isn't happening and hasn't happened. Most Mac people don't like Windows and now they are happy that it runs on their machines. Funny because Microsoft has the potential to dominate even more of the market with this happening. A Mac will just be another Dell or IBM. Only Dells and IBMs are less expensive.[/quote]


it's a hack job, with hacks to patch the hacks. it's a whole heaping mess, that requires very specific components to work at all. a solution that only partially works under very specific conditions is not the same.