Guest BlackJesus Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='bengalrick' post='288752' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:29 PM']thats where you and i are different... i dont' even hate osama bin laden... hate causes people to think irrationally... i hated bin laden for a while, but since i have let go of it, things seem much more clear to me...[/quote] [b]you can play semantic games all you want .... trust me you hate many people ... and if you don't hate others but still are cool with them being killed ... then you might be a psychopath. [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='288757' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:34 PM']There is no talking sense into BJ, hes always right and whoever he is arguing against is always wrong...[/quote] [b]If you look back ... I am the one that has altered my position the most of anyone here .... I have shown the flexibility to realize I was wrong ... it is others here who are stuck in quicksand. [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='Nati Ice' post='288755' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:31 PM']haha, since when do you give a fuck about this country you care about... hating bush hating dumbasss hating jews hating white people hating capitalism praising 3rd world leaders praising chomskys political diatribes praising communism sorry if your concern comes off as a little... insincere(?)[/quote] [b]1. Bush hates the U.S. and is destroying it at home and abroad - to hate Bush is to love America 2. Israel is the biggest enemy ad threat to the U.S. 3. I don't hate white people, I am one - I hate what many of them do 4. You don't even know what the fuck Capitalism means so no response needed 5. I hate the majority of 3rd world leaders ... don't skew the fact that I praise a few 6. Chomsky is the most brilliant mind alive today (and you have never read one of his books) 7. I don't praise communism .... there are no truly communist states in the world - I try and show how centrally run economies have benefits that capitalism doesn't provide [color="#CC0000"][size=3]8. I love what America could be ..... not the wreckage it will be, when Dumbshits and their uninformed supporters like you are done with it [/size] [/color] [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='BlackJesus' post='288758' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:35 PM'][b]you can play semantic games all you want .... trust me you hate many people ... and if you don't hate others but still are cool with them being killed ... then you might be a psychopath. [/b][/quote] don't tell me what i think... you don't know me that well... my mother has taught me from day one, to not judge people... i don't hate, or at least i strive not to hate people/things for the reasons i mentioned... am i perfect? hell no... but you know i'm right about waht i'm saying here... [quote name='BlackJesus' post='288761' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:36 PM'][b]If you look back ... I am the one that has altered my position the most of anyone here .... I have shown the flexibility to [s]realize I was wrong [/s] be brainwashed... it is others here who are stuck in quicksand. [/b][/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 What has Israel ever done to be a threat to the US? And us facts not "They were in charge of the attacks on 9/11" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='bengalrick' post='288766' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:43 PM']don't tell me what i think... you don't know me that well... my mother has taught me from day one, to not judge people... i don't hate, or at least i strive not to hate people/things for the reasons i mentioned... am i perfect? hell no... but you know i'm right about waht i'm saying here...[/quote] [b]So what emotion is that allows you to cheer the killing of others ??? quick search for a synonym for hate ..... Yes we do know what we both are talking about here ... and your high horse is dripping in blood from all the bloodlust you have shown in the past year .... spare me[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='BlackJesus' post='288765' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:41 PM'][b]1. Bush hates the U.S. and is destroying it at home and abroad - to hate Bush is to love America 2. Israel is the biggest enemy ad threat to the U.S. 3. I don't hate white people, I am one - I hate what many of them do 4. You don't even know what the fuck Capitalism means so no response needed 5. I hate the majority of 3rd world leaders ... don't skew the fact that I praise a few 6. Chomsky is the most brilliant mind alive today (and you have never read one of his books) 7. I don't praise communism .... there are no truly communist states in the world - I try and show how centrally run economies have benefits that capitalism doesn't provide [color="#CC0000"][size=3]8. I love what America could be ..... not the wreckage it will be, when Dumbshits and their uninformed supporters like you are done with it [/size] [/color] [/b][/quote] were you trying to dispute nati's post? b/c you did a horrible job of it, if that was your purpose... you pretty much proved his point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted June 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='BlackJesus' post='288765' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:41 PM'][b][color="#CC0000"][size=3]8. I love what America could be ..... not the wreckage it will be, when Dumbshits and their uninformed supporters like you are done with it [/size] [/color] [/b][/quote] i cant think of one issue i have supported bush on outside of the belief that withdrawing troops at this point in this unecessary invasion would be pointless... thanks for proving my point about the uninformed tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='BlackJesus' post='288771' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:44 PM'][b]So what emotion is that allows you to cheer the killing of others ??? quick search for a synonym for hate ..... Yes we do know what we both are talking about here ... and your high horse is dripping in blood from all the bloodlust you have shown in the past year .... spare me[/b][/quote] its not an emotion that "allows me to cheer"... i try (poorly sometimes ) to not use emotions when talking politics... but to answer you question = self defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='bengalrick' post='288774' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:46 PM']but to answer you question = self defense...[/quote] [b]ahh .... ok that is what hitler used as well ... "We are self defending ourselves from the Jewish menace" ... good luck with that .... I am just honest and call it what it is .... you search for a justification to make yourself feel better .... [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='288770' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:44 PM']What has Israel ever done to be a threat to the US? And us facts not "They were in charge of the attacks on 9/11"[/quote] [b]look up the ... [size=3]- Lavon Affair - USS Liberty [/size] to start with, then I'll give you more [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatmandude Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [url="http://www.ussliberty.org/"]http://www.ussliberty.org/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 At least they said that they were accidents rather than parading around like Osama Bin Laden saying that they purposely bomb the world trade center and other terrorist attacks...but then again Osama is working with the jews to set up the muslims and give Israel pity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 BJ, i said this in the other thread but ill ask again, what do you think of the Palestinians that continue to do suicide bombings on innocent Israelis? Even though I already know the answer about how their are no innocent Israelis and that they have a just cause and stuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='288786' date='Jun 29 2006, 04:00 PM']BJ, i said this in the other thread but ill ask again, what do you think of the Palestinians that continue to do suicide bombings on innocent Israelis? Even though I already know the answer about how their are no innocent Israelis and that they have a just cause and stuff....[/quote] [b]I answered this for you in the last thread ... go look also The Lavon Affair was not an accident ... go read [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='288784' date='Jun 29 2006, 03:59 PM']At least they said that they were accidents rather than parading around like Osama Bin Laden saying that they purposely bomb the world trade center and other terrorist attacks...[/quote] So if you attack the U.S. and then lie to them about it... you're better than someone who attacked the U.S. and admitted to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #22 Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 If you read Herzl, his goals are to make Palestine a "Sudetenland" (please excuse the term), to clear out the racially inferior Arabs for Jewish settlement. Both parties involved have malevolent and dark histories they must attone for, but Israel is the aggressor in this instance. BJ and I are the product of College Campuses (and, even worse, Graduate campuses!), where straight-thinking and liberal thoughts reign supreme. I don't buy into the idea of a Zionist Media Conspiracy, or of the idea that the Jews have control over this country. The Pro-Israel faction in the Senate is just like another Lobbying committee set up for extra-American interests. I worked for a Holocaust museum for about a year, and let me say this: If the leaders of our society were all intent on Zionism, why is our Museum probably going to close/go bankrupt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steggyD Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 [quote name='#22' post='288866' date='Jun 29 2006, 07:14 PM']If the leaders of our society were all intent on Zionism, why is our Museum probably going to close/go bankrupt?[/quote] To throw you off course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 [center][b]This is a photo of the Israeli Army shelling Gaza yesterday .... [img]http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/3347/2aa85f5fcde942248f9a7181189e05.jpg[/img] And oh yeah ... I am sure they have lazer precision for whatever they are shooting at and that they aren't hitting any civilians [/b] [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 [color="#000099"][size=5][u][b]30 Things you should know about Israhell[/b][/u][/size][/color] 1. Did you know that non-Jewish Israelis cannot buy or lease land in Israel? A Jew from any country in the world is guaranteed citizenship in Israel, while the Palestinians who have been there for centuries are oppressed and persecuted. 2. Did you know that instead of sewing an insignia on clothing to distinguish race (like the Germans did to the Jews before WW2), Palestinian license plates in Israel are color coded to distinguish Jews from non-Jews? 3. Did you know that East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights are all considered by the entire world community, including the United States and the United Nations, to be occupied territory and NOT part of the State of Israel? 4. Did you know that Israel allots 85% of the water resources for Jews, and the remaining 15% is divided among all Palestinians in the territories? For example in Hebron, 85% of the water is set aside for about 400 Jewish settlers, while the remaining 15% is distributed among Hebron's 120, 000 Palestinians? 5. Did you know that the United States awards Israel $5 billion in aid each year from American tax dollars? 6. Did you know that US aid to Israel ($3.0 billion annually) exceeds the aid the US grants to the entire African continent? This aid is used both to buy American weaponry and to buy arms made in Israel. 7. Did you know that Israel is awaiting an additional $4 billion worth of American military hardware, including new F-16s and Apache and Blackhawk helicopters. As Israel's main ally and supporter internationally, the United States is committed to maintaining the Jewish state's "qualitative edge" in weapons over its neighbors. 8. Did you know that the U.S. administration has notified Congress on numerous occasions that Israel has violated the rules on how US-supplied weapons are used? (In 1978, 1979 and 1982 during fighting in Lebanon, and once after Israel's bombing of an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981.) 9. Did you know that Israel is the only country in the Middle East that refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections from its sites? 10. Did you know that high-ranking military officers in the Israeli Defense Forces have admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war have been summarily executed by the Israeli forces? 11. Did you know that Israel blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a US warship in international waters (the USS Liberty), killing 33 and wounding 177 American sailors and the US did nothing about it? 12. Did you know that Israel stands in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council Resolutions? 13. Did you know that Israel is explicitly dedicated to the policy of maintaining a: "distinct Jewish character"? 14. Did you know that Israel's current Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, was found by an Israeli court to be "personally and directly responsible" for the Sabra and Shatilla massacre in Lebanon where more than a thousand innocent Palestinian men, women, and children were axed to death or lined up and shot in cold blood? 15. Did you know that on May 20, 1990, a group of unarmed Palestinian laborers were lined up and murdered by an Israeli solider as they sat waiting for transportation back to Gaza? The terrified laborers who gathered in an area of southern Israel known as Rishon Lezion (known to Palestinians by its Arabic name Oyon Qara) handed their ID cards to the Israeli soldier. The soldiers ordered the distressed laborers to kneel down and face the ground and unexpectedly showered them with a barrage of bullets, killing seven and wounding many others. Needless to say, the soldier was not charged with any crime. 16. Did you know that until as recently as 1988, Israelis were permitted to run "Jews Only" job ads? 17. Did you know that the Israeli Foreign Ministry pays six US public relations firms to promote a "positive image" of Israel to the American public? 18. Did you know that Sharon's coalition government includes a party--Molodet--which advocates ethnic cleansing by openly calling for the forced expulsion of all Palestinians from the occupied territories? 19. Did you know that recently-declassified documents indicate that David Ben-Gurion approved of the forced expulsion of Arabs from all Palestininan territory in 1948? 20. Did you know that the former chief rabbi of Israel, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, who is also a founder and spiritual leader of the religious Shas party (Israel's third largest political party) openly advocates a 'Final Solution' to annihilate the Palestinians? Speaking at the widely broadcast sermon marking the last Passover, he declared of the Palestinians: "The Lord shall return their deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world. It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable." 21. Did you know that Palestinian refugees make up the largest portion of the refugee population in the world? 22. Did you know that Palestinian Christians are considered the "living stones" of Christianity because they are the direct descendants of the disciples of Jesus Christ? And the Palestinian Christians stand united with their Muslim brethren in the struggle against the Israeli occupation. 23. Did you know that despite a ban on torture by Israel's High Court of Justice, torture has continued unabated by Shin Bet interrogators on Palestinian prisoners? 24. Did you know that despite every Israeli attempt to disrupt Palestinian education, Palestinians have the highest ratio of PhDs per capita in the world? 25. Did you know that the right of self-determination is guaranteed to every human being under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights [December, 1948], yet Palestinians were/are expected to negotiate for this right under the Oslo Accords? 26. Did you know that despite what is widely perpetuated and written in the history books that the Arabs attacked Israel in the 1967 war, it was Israel who attacked the Arab countries first, capturing Jerusalem and the West Bank, and called the attack a pre-emptive strike? 27. Did you know that, as an occupying power, Israel has a particular responsibility under the Geneva Conventions to protect Palestinian civilians? 28. Did you know that, despite Ariel Sharon's public call for a unilateral ceasefire, Israeli soldiers have not stopped shooting, killing or bulldozing Palestinian homes? The most recent example of this is the murder of three innocent women who were shot by an Israeli tank as they sat in their tent! 29. Did you know that the Zionists have been trying to destroy Masjid al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock for the last 50 years by digging underground tunnels beneath the sites to weaken its foundation causing it to collapse? 30) Nelson Mandela called the Israeli government an apartheid regime, just like South Africa used to be. [center] [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 [color="#CC0000"][b] Also last night Israhell announced that they kidnapped 64 Palestinian governmental ministers -democratically elected members of the legislative council (the Palestinian parliament), and mayors of various cities were kidnapped from their homes.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Why did they capture the goverment ministers? Is it to get thier soldier released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted June 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 [quote name='Paul' post='289025' date='Jun 30 2006, 01:45 AM'] Why did they capture the goverment ministers? Is it to get thier soldier released.[/quote] im pretty sure they found that dude dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I thought they found the 19 year old settler dead, and don't want to bargin for the release of the soldier, which is why Israel is bringing the heat says the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 [quote name='#22' post='288866' date='Jun 29 2006, 07:14 PM']If you read Herzl, his goals are to make Palestine a "Sudetenland" (please excuse the term), to clear out the racially inferior Arabs for Jewish settlement. Both parties involved have malevolent and dark histories they must attone for, but Israel is the aggressor in this instance. BJ and I are the product of College Campuses (and, even worse, Graduate campuses!), where straight-thinking and liberal thoughts reign supreme. I don't buy into the idea of a Zionist Media Conspiracy, or of the idea that the Jews have control over this country. The Pro-Israel faction in the Senate is just like another Lobbying committee set up for extra-American interests. I worked for a Holocaust museum for about a year, and let me say this: If the leaders of our society were all intent on Zionism, why is our Museum probably going to close/go bankrupt?[/quote] i need to start listening to you more i think... i am leaning towards what you are saying lately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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