~mroby30~ Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 the Reds 2005 pitching rotation actually isn't looking so bad for a change. Here is what i expect it to be like, 1- Wilson 2- Milton 3- Ortiz 4- Hudson 5- Harang I know this isn't the best, but it certainly isn't the worst either, and thats what we've grown accustomed to over the years. + this team could be offensive powerhouse if it stayed healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Dey Forever Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 i really think this team will make the playoffs and be a serious ws contender go ahead and laugh at me but i think it will happen this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTA513 Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 I would like to see Claussen make the line starting up, but I dont think he will because he didnt really have an out pitch last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BengalsOwn Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Milton will be #1 by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 [quote name='CJ4MVP85' date='Jan 11 2005, 10:43 PM']i really think this team will make the playoffs and be a serious ws contender go ahead and laugh at me but i think it will happen this year [right][post="34916"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] Sorry, couldn't resist. I really hope you're right, but I really, really doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 They have a real shot this year. The rotation will probably be in this order. Milton Wilson ortiz harang hudson Can you believe Kearns will be coming off of the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 [quote name='sean' date='Jan 12 2005, 04:19 PM']They have a real shot this year. The rotation will probably be in this order. Milton Wilson ortiz harang hudson [b]Can you believe Kearns will be coming off of the bench.[/b] [right][post="35142"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] No, I can't. If he is healthy, he is the best all around player we have at ANY position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 [quote name='Jason' date='Jan 12 2005, 05:40 PM']No, I can't. If he is healthy, he is the best all around player we have at ANY position. [right][post="35170"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] I agree. But rumor has it he will be the one left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BengalsOwn Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 [quote name='Jason' date='Jan 12 2005, 05:40 PM']No, I can't. If he is healthy, he is the best all around player we have at ANY position. [right][post="35170"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] Who do you bench then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 [quote name='BengalsOwn' date='Jan 13 2005, 03:13 AM']Who do you bench then? [right][post="35298"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] Willy. But only until Junior or Kearns gets hurt. But even if they all stay healthy, he will get his share of PT. Or trade Willy for a pitcher. Nothing against Willy, I just think Kearns is a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 [quote name='sean' date='Jan 12 2005, 11:44 PM']I agree. But rumor has it he will be the one left out. [right][post="35267"][/post][/right][/quote] that is, until pena breaks the century mark in strike outs, but the all star break... i hope he got over that problem... our team could break a record in strikeouts, if pena and dunn play all year... our offense could be extremely scary if they both get it half way together though... my rotation, no surprise: milton wilson ortiz hudson clausson/harrang (not sure which yet) how about this lineup though: jimenez (only weakness) freel will be in this spot often though lopez/jimenez (lopez if freel is out) casey griffey dunn pena/kearns randa larue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~mroby30~ Posted January 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 i think thats the right thing to do though, there is no way you can bench wily mo, he has sooooo much talent, i think he's going to be a star in the league for a long time, and no benching dunn or griffey when they're healthy, i still think their best bet is moving kearns to third base until griffey gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 [quote name='~mroby30~' date='Jan 17 2005, 02:30 AM']i think thats the right thing to do though, there is no way you can bench wily mo, he has sooooo much talent, i think he's going to be a star in the league for a long time, and no benching dunn or griffey when they're healthy, i still think their best bet is moving kearns to third base until griffey gets hurt. [right][post="36301"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] i agree... the upside to wily mo is unbelievable... i like the move to third for kearns, but now, we may not see enough of him... injuries happen though, so thats a good problem to have... our main problem this year: defense... ss, second are now huge gaps at our traditionally "defensive positions"... hopefully, we'll be ok though... our offense will make up for pitching and defense to a point though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 [quote name='~mroby30~' date='Jan 17 2005, 02:30 AM']i think thats the right thing to do though, there is no way you can bench wily mo, he has sooooo much talent, i think he's going to be a star in the league for a long time, and no benching dunn or griffey when they're healthy, i still think their best bet is moving kearns to third base until griffey gets hurt. [right][post="36301"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] Randa is our starting 3rd baseman. Everything I hear tells me Kearns is not make the transition very well. That's why the got Randa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~mroby30~ Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Yea, i didn't hear about how the transition went, i know as far as offensive numbers are concerned if kearns could be decent defensively at 3rd, he would be more valuable. I still don't know why they didn't at least try to talk to aaron boone about coming back, he's a very solid 3rd baseman, that couldve even played SS, or 2B, and wanted to be back, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 [quote name='bengalrick' date='Jan 13 2005, 10:57 AM']that is, until pena breaks the century mark in strike outs, but the all star break... i hope he got over that problem... our team could break a record in strikeouts, if pena and dunn play all year... our offense could be extremely scary if they both get it half way together though... my rotation, no surprise: milton wilson ortiz hudson clausson/harrang (not sure which yet) how about this lineup though: jimenez (only weakness) freel will be in this spot often though lopez/jimenez (lopez if freel is out) casey griffey dunn pena/kearns randa larue [right][post="35351"][/post][/right][/quote] Harang had 10 wins last year and was poised to be our #1 starter if we didin't make good moves (which is par for the course). Why do people have him fighting for a starting role? He should be our 3rd or 4th starter depending on how good Ortiz actually is. Claussen will not start. He blew last year. The undertones in interviews suggest that he will be in the bullpen. The last starting spot will be between Hancock and Hudson. I was apathetic towards this yaer. After these moves, I'm excited about this year. We have a legitimate shot in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I hope Hancock, Hudson and Harang all crackthe rotation, because then we could call them... "Triple H!" Seriously, that Hancock kid looked real fine at the end of last season. Hudson looked really good too, and Harang is solid. We're almost loaded with quality pitching! when's the last time you could say that about the Reds? 1990? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Dey Forever Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 i thought Kearns was gonna try and play 3rd this spring training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 [quote name='CJ4MVP85' date='Jan 20 2005, 04:38 PM']i thought Kearns was gonna try and play 3rd this spring training? [right][post="37332"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] it wasn't a successful tryout... i feel he can do it though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 [quote]We're almost loaded with quality pitching! when's the last time you could say that about the Reds? 1990?[/quote] 1992. Team ERA, 3.46, 1060 Ks, 470 BBs1362 hits in 1450 IP, 55 saves. 4 pitchers with 10+ wins, 2 with 25+ saves. Although our 1990 staff was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bengal_Smoov Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Kearns needs to do an A-Rod, Wily Mo is the next Sammy Sosa without the steriods and corked bats. When Griffey gets hurt in June Kearns will go back to the outfield. If Dunn learns how to not lead the league in strikeouts then he might go to the all-star game as a player this year. The Reds don't have the starting pitching this year to go to the playoffs. Last year the Red Sox broke thier curse, this year it's the Cubs turn. Baseball needs this in a major way, it could easily over take basketball in popularity, thanks to Ron Artest and Kobe Bryant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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