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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='367102' date='Oct 18 2006, 06:56 PM']So since Im asking simple questions here, does it suck to be on a bengals site defending this some 8 months later?[/quote]

Especially in such great length. There must be something to it for him to write a novel to try to prove that the game wasn't fixed. Conclusion: The Seahawks made some mistakes and they didn't execute everything properly so the 6 or 7 horrendous calls had no effect on the outcome of the game.
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[quote name='Hooky' post='367410' date='Oct 19 2006, 10:05 AM']Especially in such great length. There must be something to it for him to write a novel to try to prove that the game wasn't fixed. Conclusion: The Seahawks made some mistakes and they didn't execute everything properly so the 6 or 7 horrendous calls had no effect on the outcome of the game.[/quote]


Come now we all know after this past weekend that horrible calls dont effect the outcome of games.









Oh wait.
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[quote name='Bunghole' post='367146' date='Oct 18 2006, 06:41 PM']It was less of a complaint than it was a stating of the obvious. But you're right, teams that rely on referee's calls to save them always lose....unless they're paid to look the other way... :lmao:[/quote]

The Rooneys don't have that kind of money but Seattle's owner,Paul Allen and his 22 billion would.Any discrepancy in penalties and penalty yards must be the result of fraud rather than one team being more disciplined than another. :rolleyes: The only thing obvious is you can't generate a legitimate and logical discussion in any way shape or form about this subject,since you ignore specific examples. Those "sour grapes" must be eating you up inside. Just like with Browns fans,karma comes up and bites you because of your fanbase. :thumbsup: Keep up the good work, so all these bad things will continue to happen.

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[quote name='Hooky' post='367410' date='Oct 19 2006, 09:05 AM']Especially in such great length. There must be something to it for him to write a novel to try to prove that the game wasn't fixed. Conclusion: The Seahawks made some mistakes and they didn't execute everything properly so the 6 or 7 horrendous calls had no effect on the outcome of the game.[/quote]

What wrong,you have ADD or have problems reading anything longer than a few sentences.Articles and scouting reports must be tough for you lol. There wasn't all these horrible calls that went against Seattle. All you've done is make shit up and since you can't refute anything i said,its obvious you would rather ignore what actually happened.
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[quote name='mulepower' post='367711' date='Oct 19 2006, 05:20 PM']The Rooneys don't have that kind of money but Seattle's owner,Paul Allen and his 22 billion would.Any discrepancy in penalties and penalty yards must be the result of fraud rather than one team being more disciplined than another. :rolleyes: The only thing obvious is you can't generate a legitimate and logical discussion in any way shape or form about this subject,since you ignore specific examples. Those "sour grapes" must be eating you up inside. Just like with Browns fans,karma comes up and bites you because of your fanbase. :thumbsup: Keep up the good work, so all these bad things will continue to happen.[/quote]



Complete and utter garbage and you damn well know it. Your site is completely guilty of these things you accuse us of THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT. The karma argument is crap, the injuries and such happened reguardless, karma has nothing to do with it.

Only a complete fool would think that.

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[quote name='mulepower' post='367714' date='Oct 19 2006, 05:30 PM']There wasn't all these horrible calls that went against Seattle. All you've done is make shit up and since you can't refute anything i said,its obvious you would rather ignore what actually happened.[/quote]

That's why the morning after the Super Bowl every media outside of pissburgh talked more about the refs than the actual game. Did someone save the link to the ESPN poll on who thought that the refs hijacked the game? Every state was at least 70+ percent yes, except PA and WV, which were barely over 50 percent no.
It's hilarious that Stealer fans refuse to admit that they were given the game. Even Jen said that he wasn't in on that TD that he "scored*". Pass play to the 1 yard line negated, because a lineman blocked a rusher inthe chest. Hasselbeck getting a blocking penalty while tackling someone and much more.

Sports writers were calling it the least deserved Super Bowl victory in years. Like it or not, you know you were given that game. That's why you posted a thesis paper as a lame attempt to prove that the Stealers actually deserved to win and weren't given the game by the refs. Keep believing it.
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='367747' date='Oct 19 2006, 06:04 PM']Complete and utter garbage and you damn well know it. Your site is completely guilty of these things you accuse us of THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT. The karma argument is crap, the injuries and such happened reguardless, karma has nothing to do with it.

Only a complete fool would think that.[/quote]

Whatever is sown,that you shall reap.Your fanbase and players have sown enough corruption.
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[quote name='Hooky' post='368046' date='Oct 20 2006, 08:34 AM']That's why the morning after the Super Bowl every media outside of pissburgh talked more about the refs than the actual game. Did someone save the link to the ESPN poll on who thought that the refs hijacked the game? Every state was at least 70+ percent yes, except PA and WV, which were barely over 50 percent no.
It's hilarious that Stealer fans refuse to admit that they were given the game. Even Jen said that he wasn't in on that TD that he "scored*". Pass play to the 1 yard line negated, because a lineman blocked a rusher inthe chest. Hasselbeck getting a blocking penalty while tackling someone and much more.

Sports writers were calling it the least deserved Super Bowl victory in years. Like it or not, you know you were given that game. That's why you posted a thesis paper as a lame attempt to prove that the Stealers actually deserved to win and weren't given the game by the refs. Keep believing it.



That's why the morning after the Super Bowl every media outside of pissburgh talked more about the refs than the actual game. Did someone save the link to the ESPN poll on who thought that the refs hijacked the game? Every state was at least 70+ percent yes, except PA and WV, which were barely over 50 percent no.
It's hilarious that Stealer fans refuse to admit that they were given the game. Even Jen said that he wasn't in on that TD that he "scored*". Pass play to the 1 yard line negated, because a lineman blocked a rusher inthe chest. Hasselbeck getting a blocking penalty while tackling someone and much more.

Sports writers were calling it the least deserved Super Bowl victory in years. Like it or not, you know you were given that game. That's why you posted a thesis paper as a lame attempt to prove that the Stealers actually deserved to win and weren't given the game by the refs. Keep believing it.[/quote]


Yeah,like some articles from the media and a poll makes things correct bwhaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Let me repeat to you why the Steeelers weren't given the game. You'll ignore it since you have no comeback with any football knowledge.

Hey hooky,

The director of NFL officials,Mike Pereira, explaining the Super Bowl calls. He has more authority than any media outlet or bitter fans.

Since you bring up the Super Bowl,hooky

[url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=YgiK1hMsaYM&...ated&search"]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YgiK1hMsaYM&amp...ated&search[/url]

[url="http://youtube.com/watch?v=hv7xP9WjfgA&...ted&search="]http://youtube.com/watch?v=hv7xP9WjfgA&amp...ted&search=[/url]


I don't expect you to reply to those explanations about the rules though. :whistle:


Hey hooky, The Hasselbeck penalty was wrong, along with the non- call on Porter for horse-collaring Alexander.I didn't believe that Ben got in on the QB sneak either.That wasn't as bad as Vinny Testaverde's QB sneak in 1998, iirc.

There were many other controversial calls,hooky. You won't read them because its about what happened in a football game.

The helmet-to-helmet on Hiinees Waaard early in the game. The ref threw the flag then after some discussion, picked it up. When they showed the replay, the Seattle player was shown tilting his head into Hines to initiate helmet-to-helmet contact. Silence could only be heard from the usually vocal Madden because they saw that a call had gone against the stealers.

Farrior was close to the ball when the Jerramy Stevens fumble was blown dead as an incompletion,how about that one hooky.

There was the Matt Hasselbeck fumble which was ruled not-a-fumble because although he fell down on his own, some Steeler brushed by him, thus making him “down by contact”. I bet you forgot about that one hooky.

Pitt QB Big Ben was blocked in the back as he pursued the DB who he'd tossed an int to. Yep,it happened hooky.

So its ok to call an offensive pass interference on Heath Miller on a 2nd and 10 at the Seattle 22 but not on a Seattle wide receiver in the end zone? :0stfu:

Why was the offensive PI call wrong on Darrell Jackson pushing off in the end zone? It wasn't.

Heath Miller got called for one in the Super Bowl. You will look over that though hooky.

Why was the hold by Locklear on Haggans wrong when he 1.pulled on the shoulder after being beat.
2 The pulling of the back jersey.
3.The hands weren't kept inside the frame.
Those are all ingredients for a hold.

All you've stated was that a few calls that went against Seattle and the refs are cheating. Face the facts that sometimes an NFL team is going to have more penalties than another NFL team. I guess you believe the refs should call an equal amount of the type of penalties for each team,otherwise its unfair. :rolleyes:




I bet you were real good with Simon says lol.

So how were the Steeeelers given the game ,hooky. C'mon have any examples?

I'm sure thats a lot for you to comprehend. Take a couple of deep breaths and some advil for thinking so hard. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//18.gif[/img]


These plays mattered more than the penalties.

Guess what,the refs didn't give up the longest run in SB history,didn't bite on a 43 yd trick play from Randel el to Ward for a TD;didn't allow Ben to scramble around on a 3rd and 28 and complete a long pass to the 2 yd. line;didn't miss two field goals;didn't fail to step out of bounds late in the 1st half to stop the clock in Pitt territory in a crunch time situation or didn't let the 1st half clock tick down from 48 seconds all the way down to 13 seconds before finally running their next play at Pitt's 36 yd line;
didn't let a little physical contact intimidate them from catching 4 very catchable passes...that would be the Seattle TE Jeremy Stevens. What about those hooky?

Wait,there's more.

The refs didn't constantly punt deep into the end zone repeatedly giving Pitt the ball at the 20 yd line. Tom Rouen punted four of his six punts in the end zone. The Refs weren't the ones who caught a break when at the conclusion of a 2nd qtr play, as a Pitt DE was walking away, the Seattle Center blindsided the defenseless player, leveling him to the ground. Even Hiines Waaard dropped an easy TD pass. Mike Holmgren mismanaged the game about as bad as possible.


Da Burgh did deserve to win,made plays to win the game and the refs called penalties like they were supposed to.


Instead of making excuses calling a few paragraphs a novel or thesis paper,why can't you address a few of thse simple points. I know why,it would be asking to much of you.

The education system has really went downhill. Kids nowadays thinking a short disposition is a novel. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]

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[quote name='mulepower' post='368733' date='Oct 21 2006, 09:58 PM']Whatever is sown,that you shall reap.Your fanbase and players have sown enough corruption.[/quote]



:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


Pure ignorance, and what's sad is that you people actually believe this, you actually believe that you have some sort of moral high ground. That is laughable at best and simply sad at worst.

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[quote name='Bunghole' post='368737' date='Oct 21 2006, 09:01 PM']And yours have sown enough deceit. And it's showing.[/quote]


There's a reason why bad things happen to your city and your team,the actions of the fanbase and players. The only thing deceitful would be someone believing its not true. Its only going to get worse. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of fans. :lol:


Your face is more sour than bitter beer man. :pointlaff:

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[quote name='mulepower' post='368757' date='Oct 21 2006, 10:51 PM']There's a reason why bad things happen to your city and your team,the actions of the fanbase and players. The only thing deceitful would be someone believing its not true. Its only going to get worse. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of fans. :lol:
Your face is more sour than bitter beer man. :pointlaff:[/quote]



If this idiocy helps you sleep off your drunken stupor tonight, then by all means coddle the bottle.


But when you wake up tommorow youll still have to face the hangover of reality, that every single thing you accuse us of your guilty of ten times over. The more you deny that truth, the more you show your colors of foolishness.

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='368755' date='Oct 21 2006, 09:48 PM']:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Pure ignorance, and what's sad is that you people actually believe this, you actually believe that you have some sort of moral high ground. That is laughable at best and simply sad at worst.[/quote]

Whats laughable is how much trouble your team has got into it. Its not about morality but common sense. Crime doesn't pay. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//30.gif[/img] Even Marbles mouth hasn't shown much enthusiasm.Locker room dissent and turmoil. :thumbsup:

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[quote name='mulepower' post='368759' date='Oct 21 2006, 10:56 PM']Whats laughable is how much trouble your team has got into it. Its not about morality but common sense. Crime doesn't pay. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//30.gif[/img] Even Marbles mouth hasn't shown much enthusiasm.Locker room dissent and turmoil. :thumbsup:[/quote]



Whats even more laughable is that your sad self actually believes that some sort of "crime" is the reason for the CURRENT struggles were having and that injury has nothing to do with it.


By the way how is your criminal doing? Has Holmes beat anyone today?


Hypocrite.

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[quote name='mulepower' post='368759' date='Oct 21 2006, 10:56 PM']Whats laughable is how much trouble your team has got into it. Its not about morality but common sense. Crime doesn't pay. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//30.gif[/img] Even Marbles mouth hasn't shown much enthusiasm.Locker room dissent and turmoil. :thumbsup:[/quote]




So ugh, how's that Karma thing working out for ya?

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[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img]


For a buch of guys who believe in this karma thing, maybe you should learn when to shut the fuck up.
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