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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='460277' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:22 PM'][b]Jamie ... this image is of the small sidewalk near the large field that housed thousands of anti war protestors. There was a small fence around the field and the anti war crowd of about 30 stood on the outside of the fence as we entered the entrance to the field. That was it .... there is no crowd of the eagle douches. [/b][/quote]


I believe you, that was my point on zooming in to make their numbers look bigger than they were. Every major news org would have mentioned their numbers as well.
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[quote name='WhoDeyUK' post='460278' date='Mar 21 2007, 08:22 PM']This is why I enjoy your posts in this forum, Bung. I know the family background, but you still always manage to remain even-tempered to the other POV. Remind me to buy you a beer when I am next back home....[/quote]
Politically I am actually pretty liberal/moderate, but when it comes to the military, I am pretty damn supportive and conservative. But I (and every American) reserve the right to question how our men and women in uniform are used/deployed (whom volunteer for a largely thankless task where human blood is often shed).
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[quote name='Bunghole' post='460284' date='Mar 22 2007, 02:28 AM']Politically I am actually pretty liberal/moderate, but when it comes to the military, I am pretty damn supportive and conservative. But I (and every American) reserve the right to question how our men and women in uniform are used/deployed (whom volunteer for a largely thankless task where human blood is often shed).[/quote]
Which sums me up as well. I am generally in the middle, if ridiculously skeptical of those in power, but I respect the job being done by those in uniform. Even Lawman, though I tend to scoff at his personal politics. I just wish we would put our troops at risk for causes that were more worthy of the loss of life.
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[quote name='Bunghole' post='460284' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:28 PM']Politically I am actually pretty liberal/moderate, but when it comes to the military, I am pretty damn supportive and conservative. But I (and every American) reserve the right to question how our men and women in uniform are used/deployed (whom volunteer for a largely thankless task where human blood is often shed).[/quote]

YOU DO, BUT YOU ALSO SWORE AN OATH TO DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC

Bung,

[i]If you can't see what I have presented then I don't know what to say they come right out.
The groups that came out have alterior motives and agenda's to promote peace. It's an attack on our democracy. BJ is a self-proclaimed Liberal-Marxist. The reason he attacks Israel is due to the fact that they are the only democratic country in that region.[/i]

[i]I am tired and going to bed. I have a country to defend in the morning [/i]
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[quote name='Lawman' post='460294' date='Mar 22 2007, 02:36 AM']YOU DO, BUT YOU ALSO SWORE AN OATH TO DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC

Bung,

[i]If you can't see what I have presented then I don't know what to say they come right out.
The groups that came out have alterior motives and agenda's to promote peace. It's an attack on our democracy. BJ is a self-proclaimed Liberal-Marxist. The reason he attacks Israel is due to the fact that they are the only democratic country in that region.[/i]

[i]I am tired and going to bed. I have a country to defend in the morning [/i][/quote]
:boring:

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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='460271' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:13 PM'][b]Lawman .... please tell me that you don't believe these dickbags.

If you do then this is some scary shit ... and it makes me weep internally for the future of the country ---- where apparently a small group of vile bikers numbering maybe 300 ... can then lie and say 30,000 and then the idiot echo chamber picks it up and before you know it ---- they outnumbered the contingent that shut down 3 miles of road way while they had a spot the size of a football sideline.

Where the fuck do you think these 30,000 Pro War people were ???? In the bushes ? Up in the trees ? :contract: Show me one photo of them in mass ?

If this shit didn't give me chills at how big of a lie it was ... it would be hilarious. :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]

Bj,

I had 15 photographers up there last weekend, my intent was not to argue numbers with you , however to explain the reasoning of the "Eagles For Freedom" and illustrate/indentify the true Organizers behind this
march as the socialist/communist entities they are. Why were you there? Honestly, if you can.

Good night.

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[quote name='Lawman' post='460297' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:40 PM']Bj,

I had 15 photographers up there last weekend, my intent was not to argue numbers with you , however to explain the reasoning of the "Eagles For Freedom" and illustrate/indentify the true Organizers behind this
march as the socialist/communist entities they are. Why were you there? Honestly, if you can.

Good night.[/quote]


There was more than one march going on that day.

[url="http://www.beliefnet.com/blogs/godspolitics/2007/03/jim-wallis-marching-orders.html"]http://www.beliefnet.com/blogs/godspolitic...ing-orders.html[/url]

[quote]Monday, March 19, 2007
Jim Wallis: Marching Orders
On Friday, I shared a preview of my speech for the Christian Peace Witness for Iraq. Here is the full text of my message at the National Cathedral, where I and other religious leaders spoke to a capacity crowd before processing to the White House.

+ Dowload audio of the speech (mp3)

Four years ago today, my son Jack was born – two days before the war began. I always know how long this awful war has gone on.

The war in Iraq is personal for me. It’s personal for you too, or you wouldn’t be here tonight.

It’s personal for the families and loved ones of the more than 3,200 American soldiers who have lost the precious gift of life. The stories I hear every day on the radio and TV break my heart. They are so young to die, and it is so unnecessary. When I look at my son and celebrate his birthday, I think of all the children whose fathers or mothers won’t be coming back from the war to celebrate theirs.

It’s personal for the tens of thousands of service men and women who have lost their limbs or their mental and emotional health, and who now feel abandoned and mistreated.

It’s personal for all the Iraqis who have lost their loved ones, as many as hundreds of thousands. What would it be like to wait in line at morgues to check dead bodies, desperately hoping that you don’t recognize someone you love? I can only imagine. And when I look at my son, I think of all the Iraqi children who will never celebrate another birthday.

This isn’t just political; it’s personal for millions of us now. And for all of us here tonight, the war in Iraq is actually more than personal – it has become a matter of faith.

By our deepest convictions about Christian standards and teaching, the war in Iraq was not just a well-intended mistake or only mismanaged. This war, from a Christian point of view, is morally wrong – and was from the very start. It cannot be justified with either the teaching of Jesus Christ or the criteria of St. Augustine’s just war. It simply doesn’t pass either test, and did not from its beginning. This war is not just an offense against the young Americans who have made the ultimate sacrifice or just to the Iraqis who have paid such a horrible price. This war is not only an offense to the poor at home and around the world who have paid the price of misdirected resources and priorities … This war is also an offense against God.

And so we are here tonight, very simply and resolutely, to begin to end the war in Iraq. But not by anger, though we are angry; not just by politics, though it will take political courage. But by faith, because we are people of faith.

This service and procession are not just another political protest, but an act of faith, an act of prayer, an act of non-violent witness. Politics led us into this war, and politics is unlikely to save us by itself. The American people have voted against the war in Iraq but political proposals keep failing one after the other.

I believe it will take faith to end this war. It will take prayer to end it. It will take a mobilization of the faith community to end it – to change the political climate, to change the wind. It will take a revolution of love to end it. Because this endless war in Iraq is based ultimately on fear; and Jesus says that only perfect love will cast out fear.

So tonight we say, as people of faith, as followers of Jesus, that the deep fear that has paralyzed the conscience of this nation, which has caused us to become the kind of people that we are not called to be, that has allowed us to tolerate violations of our most basic values, and that has perpetuated an endless cycle of violence and counter-violence must be exorcised as the demon it is – this fear must be cast out!

And to cast out that fear, we must act in faith, in prayer, in love, and in hope – so we might help to heal the fears that keep this war going. Tonight we march not in belligerence, or to attack individuals (even those leaders directly responsible for the war), or to use human suffering for partisan political purposes. Rather, we process to the White House tonight as an act of faith, believing that only faith can save us now.

Ironically, this war has often been cloaked in the name and symbols of our faith, confused American imperial designs with God’s purposes, and tragically discredited Christian faith around the world, having so tied it to flawed American behavior and agendas. Millions of people around the world sadly believe this is a Christian war. So as people of faith, let us say tonight to our brothers and sisters around the world, and as clearly as we can – America is not the hope of the earth and the light of the world – Jesus Christ is! And it is his way that we follow, and not the flawed path of our nation’s leaders who prosecute this war. As an evangelical Christian, I must say that the war in Iraq has hindered the cause of Christ and, in this season of Lent, we must repent of this war!

So let us march tonight, believing that faith is stronger than fear;

Let us march tonight, believing that hope is stronger than hate;

Let us march tonight, believing that perfect love can cast out both hate and fear.

And let us march tonight, believing that the peace of Christ is stronger than the ways of war;

Let us march tonight, to say to a nation still captive to fear but weary of war, “May the peace of Christ be with you!”

Let’s march tonight, as Dr. Martin Luther King told us in another magnificent house of worship forty years ago this spring, to “rededicate ourselves to the long and bitter-but beautiful-struggle for a new world.”

And then let us return to our homes from the 48 states represented here tonight and generate a flood of public pressure that can wash away the blind intransigence of our White House and the cautious procrastination of our divided Congress. Your letters, phone calls, lobby visits, and actions at home will put a megaphone behind the sound of your feet today.

And all of this must be wrapped in the power of prayer. Because we believe that God can still work miracles in and through our prayers – and that prayer followed by action can turn valleys of despair into mountains of hope. God has acted before in history and we believe that God will act again through us. Tonight we leave this Cathedral humbly hoping to be God’s instruments of peace and the earthly agents of the kingdom of God.

It sometimes appears that the light of peace has almost gone out in America, but tonight we re-light the candle and take the light of peace to the White House!

Tonight, by faith, we begin to end the war in Iraq!

The peace of Christ be with you![/quote]
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[quote name='Lawman' post='460294' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:36 PM']YOU DO, BUT YOU ALSO SWORE AN OATH TO DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC

Bung,

[i]If you can't see what I have presented then I don't know what to say they come right out.

The groups that came out have alterior motives and agenda's to promote peace. It's an attack on our democracy. BJ is a self-proclaimed Liberal-Marxist. The reason he attacks Israel is due to the fact that they are the only democratic country in that region.[/i]

[i]I am tired and going to bed. I have a [color="#FF0000"][size=3]treasonous president[/size][/color] to defend in the morning [/i][/quote]



[size=3][b][img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] oh this is too good. :crazy:[/size]


1. ANSWER was founded by a former US attorney General Ramsey Clark


2. ANSWER is just the group that secures the permit and decides on the location ... the majority of people show up like I did without any connection to Answer. I don't know one person in ANSWER ... and I flew up on my own. Thus I was not part of Answer ... I was a guy fed up with the war with my own sign I paid for.


3. I am not a self proclaimed "Liberal Marxist". I don't even consider myself liberal. I have described myself as a Libertarian Trotskyian Marxist before ---- but that simply describes the politcal ethos that I would prefer ... (Hell I am also many other things as well and believe in Ujamaa and Utopian Agrarianism as well). :contract: [u]These are not the ones that I EVER THINK will be put in place in America.[/u] It is comparable to a person who thinks that a Christian based government would be ideal ... but realizes that it would never work --- or is not legal. :contract: [size=4][u]I believe in the U.S. constitution[/u] ([color="#FF0000"]THE ONE BUSH IS WIPING HIS ASS WITH)[/color][/size] ... and the U.S. constitution does not allow for Marxism ... thus I am pragmatic in how much flexibility and change can occur.

Also the bullshit about Israel is insane !!! Bush's biggest allie is Saudi Arabia ... a monarchy of Wahabists. Israel is a socialist state with free healthcare and education for all ... and one that supports itself off of US tax payers. They are not some beacon of capitalism or American values. They are a welfare aparthied state ... with US weapons and protection. Also you can't be a democracy if you throw out 5 million people from your country , steal their homes ... and then cage them in ghettoes. [/b]

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[quote name='Lawman' post='460297' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:40 PM']Bj,

I had 15 photographers up there last weekend[/quote]

[b]:lol:


oh really .... well I had my own two eyes up there. Care to share some of these photos of the 29,700 invisible Eagles ??? :crazy:[/b]





[quote name='Lawman' post='460297' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:40 PM']my intent was not to argue numbers with you[/quote]


[b]Just to throw out a number 29,700 too large [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//30.gif[/img]

there is nothing to argue about here .... :contract: = I KNOW I AM RIGHT and that you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about !!!! [/b]






[quote name='Lawman' post='460297' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:40 PM']illustrate/indentify the true Organizers behind this march as the socialist/communist entities they are.[/quote]


[color="#483D8B"][b]You act as if it was a mystery who ANSWER was ? [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//37.gif[/img]

As if noone could find their secret Wikipedia page ? [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]

They are simply the group that gets the permit , decides on the location, and trys to build support for the march.

However tons of people from all walks of life show up. Hell I saw Vegans, Peaceniks, Maoists, Utopianists, Christian groups, Muslim groups, Pacifists, Anarchists, Greenpeace people, Celebrities, Leninists, Trotskyists, Athiests groups, Agnostic groups, Environmentalists, Jewish leftist groups, Catholics for peace, Buddhist monks were there, Some Nepalese guys with cool instruments, Some Hindu men in Robes, etc etc etc etc


Hell the march was led by a large group of Veterans for Peace ... all of people who served in Iraq themselves and spoke.

Then they were followed up by families of those who lost loved ones in Iraq which was very large.




:contract: HELL THE NIGHT BEFORE IN A NON ANSWER EVENT = 200 CHRISTIANS WERE ARRESTED AT THE WHITEHOUSE.


All you are doing is trying to rationalize the groundswell of anger by throwing them all into some phantom commie group out to overthrow the US army with their army of picket signs and trash can lids :crazy: (don't forget peace hugs) :crazy:[/b][/color]

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[quote name='Lawman' post='460294' date='Mar 21 2007, 08:36 PM']YOU DO, BUT YOU ALSO SWORE AN OATH TO DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC

Bung,

[i]If you can't see what I have presented then I don't know what to say they come right out.
The groups that came out have alterior motives and agenda's to promote peace. It's an attack on our democracy. BJ is a self-proclaimed Liberal-Marxist. The reason he attacks Israel is due to the fact that they are the only democratic country in that region.[/i]

[i]I am tired and going to bed. I have a country to defend in the morning [/i][/quote]
I'm not sure how to respond to this. Our support of Israel is more than defending a tiny nation's right to exist, and their democracy, because all their neighbors hate them and want them destroyed. It's also about having a foothold in the area of the largest known reserve of our most precious resource, that we consume more than any other country in the world. It's also about preventing Islamic terrorism that founds it's hatred upon all things pro-Israeli or of a western ideal. It's also about religious differences that for some reason cannot be tolerated, even though all three religions involved will readily admit that they worship the same God.
I see what you have presented, I read BJ's account...I am decidedly undecided as to the resolution of this and many other issues, but I know in my heart that it won't be resolved anytime soon, or ever, as long as the current situation exists.
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BJ's attack on democracy is as sickening as the double whopper with cheese he ate just before I met him at Burger King to head out and get a few beers. That motherfucker won't stop until every last one of us is feeding the corporate machine by clogging our arteries with the bile the King peddles.

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BJ, How could you? Think of the People, man.
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[quote name='CincyInDC' post='460311' date='Mar 21 2007, 11:12 PM']BJ's attack on democracy is as sickening as the double whopper with cheese he ate just before I met him at Burger King to head out and get a few beers.[/quote]


[b][img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] :afropic:

tell me about man .... you have to love how Lawman thinks I am this Armed militant ready to overthrow the govt and install a communist dictatorship [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] ....

right after I get done watching the Bengals on DirecTV and eating Skyline :rolleyes:


[u]Lawman is what we call = paranoid and deranged.[/u] He has been made to believe that everyone who doesn't worship at the Fuhrer Bush Altar is an enemy of the state and out to cut his head off and install the Quran over the Constitution :crazy:

I actually have some sympathy for Lawman ... they had his ass down at the illegal Gitmo Gulag and who knows what he did that he is now ashamed of.

I am sure he represses the shame by imagining that the war of terror is heroic and that the half million dead civilians killed because of U.S idiocy and hubris is somehow collateral damage on the way to freedom and that the Constitution slowly being shredded by NeoCons Oligarch fascists is just them protecting the Homeland ! :crazy:[/b]

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Remember the neighbor's dad from American Beauty? USMC Col. Fitts?


[quote name='BlackJesus' post='460315' date='Mar 21 2007, 11:18 PM'][b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] :afropic:

tell me about man .... you have to love how Lawman thinks I am this Armed militant ready to overthrow the govt and install a communist dictatorship [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] ....

right after I get done watching the Bengals on DirecTV and eating Skyline :rolleyes:


[u]Lawman is what we call = paranoid and deranged.[/u] He has been made to believe that everyone who doesn't worship at the Fuhrer Bush Altar is an enemy of the state and out to cut his head off and install the Quran over the Constitution :crazy:

I actually have some sympathy for Lawman ... they had his ass down at the illegal Gitmo Gulag and who knows what he did that he is now ashamed of.

I am sure he represses the shame by imagining that the war of terror is heroic and that the half million dead civilians killed because of U.S idiocy and hubris is somehow collateral damage on the way to freedom and that the Constitution slowly being shredded by NeoCons Oligarch fascists is just them protecting the Homeland ! :crazy: [/b][/quote]

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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='460315' date='Mar 21 2007, 09:18 PM'][b][img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] :afropic:

tell me about man .... you have to love how Lawman thinks I am this Armed militant ready to overthrow the govt and install a communist dictatorship [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] ....

right after I get done watching the Bengals on DirecTV and eating Skyline :rolleyes:
[u]Lawman is what we call = paranoid and deranged.[/u] He has been made to believe that everyone who doesn't worship at the Fuhrer Bush Altar is an enemy of the state and out to cut his head off and install the Quran over the Constitution :crazy:

I actually have some sympathy for Lawman ... they had his ass down at the illegal Gitmo Gulag and who knows what he did that he is now ashamed of.

I am sure he represses the shame by imagining that the war of terror is heroic and that the half million dead civilians killed because of U.S idiocy and hubris is somehow collateral damage on the way to freedom and that the Constitution slowly being shredded by NeoCons Oligarch fascists is just them protecting the Homeland ! :crazy:[/b][/quote]

I have faith in Lawman's patriotism for our country. You guys are at polar ends of the argument, and hence will find little, if any, common grounds on your beliefs with the way the government's business should be conducted.
It is unfair to attack another's beliefs just because they are diametrically opposed to your own. BJ could make the exact same argument about those whom disagree with his worldview when it comes to American foreign policy in the 21st century.

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[b]Quick Lawman .... maybe C-Span (Who covered the protest) stands for COMMUNIST SPAN ??? [/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/37.gif[/img]



[center][i]U.S. Soldiers speaking out on Stage ...[/i]




[size=1]* Note this is hours after the march took place ... and thus the numbers were getting smaller with every hour of 25 degree windy weather. [/size]
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[size=2][color="#4169E1"][b]Well I am going to head to Bed ... [/size]



(Note this is code for Jamie and CincyDC who I indocrinated over beers for :[/b] [i]"I am heading to the Double secret Commie bunker near the earths crust ... where we along with ANSWER will clone Lenin from a mixture of 3 of his hairs and goat semen to arise and lead the revolution to overthrow the US and her Stealth bombers with very well aimed and strong armed Molotov Cocktail throwers and grandmothers with peace banners.) [/color][/i]



[center]:ninja:





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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='460261' date='Mar 21 2007, 09:03 PM'][b][size=4]With all due respect Lawman this is the height of FUCKING INSANITY !!![/size] I was there ... and I saw with my own two eyes .... their group did not exceed at tops 350 people !!!! I have no reason to lie about this .... hell if there was 30,000 I would admit it. But the 30,000 of the Anti War march stretched for 2 1/2 miles .... this Eagle group fit into a small curb side for the first .1 of the march. And they were at most 5 deep in most spots. Also none of them were at the monuments ... because I personally went to each one !!!

Hell even Faux News I think put their numbers in the hundreds ... not 30,000 .... which is bat shit insanity that gives me chills up my spine --- knowing that one group can spread such a lie --- and that others believe it.[/b][/quote]

It is quite scary that the article submitted by Lawman was written, and is being consumed out there by people desperate to believe in their own righteousness.

I really think you need to file this away, and remember the 'face of fundamentalism' - to take it into account when you are continuing your work beyond school. My guess is that it is going to show up again and again.

[quote name='Lawman' post='460270' date='Mar 21 2007, 09:11 PM'][img]http://bp0.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf2zomQTlHI/AAAAAAAAAM0/k1Wcqta9ZPs/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20081-edited.jpg[/img]

[color="#000080"]Bozo Boy didn't much care for the gauntlet. Nobody really insulted him, because they were too busy laughing and didn't catch their breath until he was past. He seemed kinda miffed that those right-wing nuts didn't respect the fact that he was making a serious statement. It's hard to parody the protestors when they are so busy beclowning themselves. Most of the goofballs who flit to these protests just aren't serious. For them, a protest is their Mardi Gras. The counter-protestors took the fun out of it, which is the main reason why they go.[/color]

[img]http://bp2.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf2ajGQTk9I/AAAAAAAAALk/zxgha1e0VIs/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20031-edited.jpg[/img]

[color="#000080"]The Gathering of Eagles area was a festival of American flags, which acted like wolfsbane to keep the lefties away.[/color][/quote]

This is like something written for comedy troupe to perform. Ironically, the topic is "who should be taken seriously".

[quote name='Lawman' post='460294' date='Mar 21 2007, 09:36 PM']YOU DO, BUT YOU ALSO SWORE AN OATH TO DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC

Bung,

[i]If you can't see what I have presented then I don't know what to say they come right out.
The groups that came out have alterior motives and agenda's to promote peace. It's an attack on our democracy. BJ is a self-proclaimed Liberal-Marxist. The reason he attacks Israel is due to the fact that they are the only democratic country in that region.[/i]

[i]I am tired and going to bed. I have a country to defend in the morning [/i][/quote]

I feel bad now because I have actually gotten miffed at you in the past...But the truth is that you are full-on insane. It's like something out of a movie, and I don't want to see how it ends. It can't be good.

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='460315' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:18 PM'][b][u]Lawman is what we call = paranoid and deranged.[/u] He has been made to believe that everyone who doesn't worship at the Fuhrer Bush Altar is an enemy of the state and out to cut his head off and install the Quran over the Constitution.

I actually have some sympathy for Lawman ... they had his ass down at the illegal Gitmo Gulag and who knows what he did that he is now ashamed of.

I am sure he represses the shame by imagining that the war of terror is heroic and that the half million dead civilians killed because of U.S idiocy and hubris is somehow collateral damage on the way to freedom and that the Constitution slowly being shredded by NeoCons Oligarch fascists is just them protecting the Homeland ![/b][/quote]

It's so stereotypical and raw that it is quite surreal to see even at this range. I'm not sure that there is a rational answer for it.
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[i]I had posted asecond batch of imageslast night to illustrate my point, for some reason they did not show.[/i]

[img]http://bp0.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf4YtWQTlpI/AAAAAAAAARE/h-hUFCZIOWc/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20389-edited.jpg[/img]

[img]http://bp2.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf4hm2QTlsI/AAAAAAAAARc/EmDfKB7WPIc/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20450-edited.jpg[/img]

[i]The USMLO is the U.S.[/i] [url="http://usmlo.org/"]Marxist-Leninist Organization[/url]

[img]http://bp3.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf4lAGQTluI/AAAAAAAAARs/2GxVi3Lb16k/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20496-edited.jpg[/img]

[i]I was wrong, the anti-war protestors did have a few american flags.[/i]

[img]http://bp3.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf4mRGQTlvI/AAAAAAAAAR0/pqRZma2I2X4/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20505-edited.jpg[/img]

WTF? :blink:

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[i]Bush is Satan, not Saddam, not Bin Laden , not Zarqawi not......[/i]

[img]http://bp2.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf3CHGQTlJI/AAAAAAAAANE/uRw51A5NW-Q/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20093-edited.jpg[/img]

Note the Workers World Party banner. The WWP is the covert parent of the ANSWER organizers.

[url="http://www.cnsnews.com/SpecialReports/archive/200501/SPE20050119a.html"]http://www.cnsnews.com/SpecialReports/arch...E20050119a.html[/url]

[color="#000080"]The Workers World Party, which describes itself as a "revolutionary socialist" political party in the United States, was founded in 1959, the same year Fidel Castro rose to power in Cuba.

The WWP, according to the World Net Daily article, defended the Chinese communist government's use of tanks in its bloody suppression of pro-democracy students in Tiananmen Square in 1989. Articles in Workers World, the WWP newspaper, blamed the students for "violent attacks on the soldiers," insisting the "events were a battle," and not, as many media organizations in the West characterized it, "a massacre."

While claiming to support workers' rights, the WWP defended the Soviet suppression of worker rebellions in Hungary in the 1950s, Czechoslovakia in the 1960s and Poland in the early 1980s, according to Politics1. The WWP also reportedly supported the 1991 KGB coup against then-Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev.[/color]

[b]In May 2001, FBI Director Louis Freeh labeled the WWP a "domestic terrorist group" in a statement to several U.S. Senate committees. "Anarchists and extremist socialist groups ... such as the Workers World Party have an international presence and, at times, also represent a potential threat in the United States," Freeh said at the time.[/b]

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[color="#000080"]This paper wants Mumia, the cop-killer, to be set free, presumably because there are a lot of cops left to shoot.[/color] [b]I thought this was an anti-war march?[/b]

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This is the [url="http://www.internationalist.org/"]Internationalist group[/url] [color="#000080"]who "fights for international socialist revolution, the conquest of power by the working class, led by its Leninist party, championing the cause of all the oppressed. At a time when the capitalist rulers trumpet the supposed “death of communism,” we say that communism lives in the struggles of the working class and the program of its vanguard."[/color]

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[i]Again, I commend BJ on his trek to DC, I do feel he truly believe in his cause and would support him in his endeavors, however I say this with reservation.

This march was not of "ONE VOICE" as we are led to believe. Unlike the "Gathering of Eagles" whose sole purposewere to protect the monuments.

As I have presented, these were various groups with their own alterior motives, other than an anti-war march.

The anti-war crowd is "NOT" a by-product of the Iraq war, however they are pre-fabricated, existing prior to even Colin Powells remarks at the UN.[/i]
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[quote name='Lawman' post='460379' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:24 AM'][img]http://bp0.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf4YtWQTlpI/AAAAAAAAARE/h-hUFCZIOWc/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20389-edited.jpg[/img][/quote]

[b]So what .... Large numbers of Americans as with the world respect or admire Che Guevara. [/b]






[quote name='Lawman' post='460379' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:24 AM'][i]The USMLO is the U.S.[/i] [url="http://usmlo.org/"]Marxist-Leninist Organization[/url][/quote]

[b]I already said that they were there .... along with tons of other groups .... Hell this group is probably the dickhead who tried to sell me the button I spoke about .... DO YOU EVEN READ MY POSTS ? [/b]






[quote name='Lawman' post='460379' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:24 AM'][img]http://bp3.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf4lAGQTluI/AAAAAAAAARs/2GxVi3Lb16k/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20496-edited.jpg[/img]

[i]I was wrong, the anti-war protestors did have a few american flags.[/i][/quote]


[img]http://www.jeffhead.com/images/downflag.jpg[/img]

:contract: [b][size=4]The upside down U.S. flag is an official signal of distress[/size].[/b] It is not meant to be, and is not officially recognized as any type of disrespect when so displayed for the right reasons.

To the contrary, here is the relevant part of the US Code of Laws regarding how to fly the flag when in distress:

THE FLAG CODE
Title 36, U.S.C., Chapter 10
As amended by P.L. 344, 94th Congress
Approved July 7, 1976

[size=3](a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, [u]except as a signal of dire distress[/u] in instances of extreme danger to life or property. [/size]

[url="http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/flagdistress.htm"]http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/flagdistress.htm[/url]







[quote name='Lawman' post='460379' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:24 AM'][img]http://bp3.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf4mRGQTlvI/AAAAAAAAAR0/pqRZma2I2X4/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20505-edited.jpg[/img][/quote]

[b]So a gay guy was there ... and was making a joke about how much he wants peace by saying that he would blow Bush like Lewinsky blew Clinton .... so what ? This is called layered humor and making a statement about how Clinton was impeached for a blow job.


Oh I forgot ... Are all commies gay now too ? :crazy:[/b]

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[quote name='Lawman' post='460380' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:44 AM'][i]Bush is Satan, not Saddam, not Bin Laden , not Zarqawi not......[/i][/quote]

[color="#483D8B"][b]Bush is responsible for far more deaths that Bin Laden and Zarqawi. Him and Saddam might be close though .... so yeah he should have been a two headed Satan.

speaking of .... when does Bush get punished like Saddam did ? [/b][/color]






[quote name='Lawman' post='460380' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:44 AM']Note the Workers World Party banner. The WWP is the covert parent of the ANSWER organizers.[/quote]

[color="#000080"][center][img]http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/67/200px-Tin_foil_hat_2.jpg[/img]
[size=3][i]"Shhh .... the commies are everywhere .... they are covertly taking over .... haven't you seen the large mass of worker revolts at McDonalds and Starbucks lately"[/i][/size][/center]
[center]:crazy:[/center][/color]






[quote name='Lawman' post='460380' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:44 AM'][img]http://bp1.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf3Nt2QTlMI/AAAAAAAAANc/vmnXBUznG4s/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20104-edited.jpg[/img]

[color="#000080"]This paper wants Mumia, the cop-killer, to be set free, presumably because there are a lot of cops left to shoot.[/color] [b]I thought this was an anti-war march?[/b][/quote]

[color="#8B0000"][b]1. Many people believe that Mumia did not kill anyone

2. None of his supporters claim that he should be released to kill more cops ... they don't even think he killed the first one.

3. The March does not ban anyone from taking part .... Hell a "We fuck little boys man club" could have shown up ... and had the constitutional right to march. [/b][/color]






[quote name='Lawman' post='460380' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:44 AM'][img]http://bp0.blogger.com/_EoaekWnLvZc/Rf3RWmQTlOI/AAAAAAAAANs/WZ_3nrLTfXs/s320/20070317_MarchOnPentagon_%20097-edited.jpg[/img][/quote]

[color="#483D8B"][b]You do realize that it is legal to be a socialist in America don't you ??? :contract: Hell we have a Socialist Senator in the U.S. Senate from Vermont.

- will you be refusing your socialist security check later in life ??? [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//39.gif[/img] [/b][/color]








[quote name='Lawman' post='460380' date='Mar 22 2007, 04:44 AM']This march was not of "ONE VOICE" as we are led to believe. Unlike the "Gathering of Eagles" whose sole purposewere to protect the monuments.[/quote]

[color="#483D8B"][b]Who said it was one voice ??? :rant: I have said over and over how many different groups were there !!!

Every group imaginable was there ! All with the agreement that we should stop occupying Iraq. [/b][/color]

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[size=2][b]Lawman:[/b] [i]"The world is going to hell .... workers now think they have a voice all of the sudden"[/i][/size]



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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='460300' date='Mar 21 2007, 10:44 PM']There was more than one march going on that day.

[url="http://www.beliefnet.com/blogs/godspolitics/2007/03/jim-wallis-marching-orders.html"]http://www.beliefnet.com/blogs/godspolitic...ing-orders.html[/url][/quote]


[url="http://video1.cathedral.org/wmv/PeaceService070316.wmv"]Video of the Service the night before.[/url]
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