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"The choice is clear," said Alkibiades, "either we support our troops in Sicily or we are mewling children upon whom Athena shall turn her back."

Nikias stood up to speak. "Explain it to me again, Alkibiades, I don't understand how this helps us defeat the Spartans."

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Expedition"]The Sicilian Expedition[/url]

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Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
Ronald Reagan

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[quote name='Lawman' post='461078' date='Mar 23 2007, 05:41 AM']Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.
Ronald Reagan[/quote]


[b]the irony is rich .... :rolleyes:

coming from a guy who supported South African Apartheid, Invaded: Grenada, Supported death squads in El Salvador & Nicaragua, and sold weapons to Iran and Iraq. [/b]

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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='461094' date='Mar 23 2007, 09:16 AM'][b]the irony is rich .... :rolleyes:

coming from a guy who supported South African Apartheid, Invaded: Grenada, Supported death squads in El Salvador & Nicaragua, [b]and sold weapons to Iran[/b] and Iraq. [/b][/quote]

Also while Iran was holding American hostages, and gave Israel "permission" to sell weapons to Iran at that same time

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[quote name='IKOTA' post='461385' date='Mar 23 2007, 03:05 PM']Also while Iran was holding American hostages, and gave Israel "permission" to sell weapons to Iran at that same time[/quote]

Funny, I seem to remember the hostages being released just before Regan was sworn in.

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[quote name='crazycat' post='461396' date='Mar 23 2007, 03:15 PM']Funny, I seem to remember the hostages being released just before Regan was sworn in.[/quote]


According to Wiki they were released on the same day he took office. Jan. 20 1981, minutes after being sworn in.

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis[/url]

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='461402' date='Mar 23 2007, 03:20 PM']According to Wiki they were released on the same day he took office. Jan. 20 1981, minutes after being sworn in.

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis[/url][/quote]

[i]Dang, Y'all beat me to it.[/i]

:(

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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='461094' date='Mar 23 2007, 07:46 AM'][b]the irony is rich .... :rolleyes:

coming from a guy who supported South African Apartheid, Invaded: Grenada, Supported death squads in El Salvador & Nicaragua, and sold weapons to Iran and Iraq. [/b][/quote]

[color="#000080"]Although Reagan sought an end to apartheid and liberalization of South Africa, he opposed economic sanctions "on grounds that it would diminish influence on the South African government and create economic hardship for the very people in South Africa that the sanctions were ostensibly designed to help."Regan, Donald T.. "[i]For the Record[/i]".[[/color]

[quote]Invaded: Grenada, Supported death squads in El Salvador & Nicaragua, and sold weapons to Iran and Iraq[/quote]

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#Foreign_affairs"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#Foreign_affairs[/url]

[color="#000080"][b]Reagan supported anti-communist groups around the world[/b]. In a policy which became known as the Reagan Doctrine, his administration funded "freedom fighters" such as the Contras in Nicaragua, the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, RENAMO in Mozambique, and UNITA in Angola. The interruption of direct military aid by the Boland Amendment between 1982 and 1984 and the subsequent rearrange of funding to third-parties, culminating in the Iran-Contra Affair of 1986-1987. When the Polish government suppressed the Solidarity movement in late 1981, Reagan imposed economic sanctions on the People's Republic of Poland.[5]

Reagan argued that the American economy was on the move again while the Soviet economy had become stagnant. For a while the Soviet decline was masked by high prices for Soviet oil exports, but that crutch collapsed in the early 1980s. In November 1985, the oil price was $30/barrel for crude, in March 1986 it had fallen to $12.[44]

Reagan's militant rhetoric inspired dissidents in the Soviet Union, but also startled allies and alarmed critics. In a famous address on June 8, 1982, he called the Soviet Union an "evil empire" that would be consigned to the "ash heap of history." After Soviet fighters downed Korean Airlines Flight 007 on September 1, 1983, he labeled the act an "act of barbarism... [of] inhuman brutality."[7]

On March 3, 1983, Reagan predicted that Communism would collapse: "I believe that communism is another sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose — last pages even now are being written."[27] He elaborated on June 8, 1982, to the British Parliament. Reagan argued that the Soviet Union was in deep economic crisis, and stated that the Soviet Union "runs against the tide of history by denying human freedom and human dignity to its citizens."[/color]

[i]Oh, how you must loathe this man.[/i]

[i]but wait; [/i]


[color="#000080"]According to his biographer John Patrick Diggins, Reagan had an "Emersonian" belief in personal reliance and an optimistic faith in the goodness of most people. Reagan's mother, a member of the Disciples of Christ with an optimistic view of human nature, taught Ronald Reagan a strong sense of faith in the goodness of people, personal responsibility, sobriety, and Christian tolerance. Reagan recalled in his autobiography that "my mother always taught us: 'Treat thy neighbor as you would want your neighbor to treat you,' and 'Judge everyone by how they act, not what they are.'" [b]He was appalled by discrimination, stating "My parents constantly drummed into me the importance of judging people as individuals.[/b]" "Every individual is unique, but we all want freedom and liberty, peace, love and security, a good home, and a chance to worship God in our own way; we all want the chance to get ahead and make our children's lives better than our own," Reagan wrote in An American Life. These convictions of personal responsibility, individual freedom, and the goodness of people guided Reagan's policies as president.[/color]


[i]So the [u]irony[/u] is that the man you loathe, is the same that would champion your cause.[/i]

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[size=4][quote name='Lawman' post='461449' date='Mar 23 2007, 04:11 PM']In a policy which became known as the Reagan Doctrine, his administration funded "freedom fighters" such as the Mujahideen in Afghanistan[/quote][/size]


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:contract: A wealthy Saudi was a prominent mujahideen organizer by the name of ....










dang what was his name ....











Oba ben lay ....










no that's not it ....












oh yeah ....












[center][color="#556B2F"][size=6] :rant: Osama bin Laden [/size][/color]







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[quote name='Lawman' post='461449' date='Mar 23 2007, 04:11 PM']Reagan had an "Emersonian" belief in personal reliance[/quote]


[b]Don't you dare tar the beautiful Transcendentalist movement with this cocksucker Raegans brush of mountains of Latin American skulls.


Emerson objected to all violence .... and was ardently against the Mexican American War in 1848 ... (you know when the US stole Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California - from the people now trying to sneak in those places).

He would surely have objected to most of the shady corrupt military policies put forth by Raegen ... which wrought destruction throughout the Latin American and the Iraqi/Iranian/Afghani world (Iran lost 1 million men in the war). [/b]

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[quote name='Lawman' post='461449' date='Mar 23 2007, 04:11 PM']Reagan funded "freedom fighters" such as the Contras in Nicaragua[/quote]



[color="#8B0000"][center][size=4][i]"Reagan Was the Butcher of My People" [/i][/size]


[size=2][b]~ Miguel D'Escoto, Catholic priest & Nicaragua's Foreign Minister in the 1980s[/b][/size][/center][/color]




[size=3][quote]The [b]8 years Reagan[/b] was in office represented one of the [b]most bloody eras in the history of the Western hemisphere[/b], as Washington funneled money, weapons and other supplies to right wing [b]death squads[/b]. And the [b]death toll was staggering [/b]- more than [b]70,000[/b] political killings in [b]El Salvador[/b], more than [b]100,000 in Guatemala[/b], [b]30,000 [/b] killed in the contra war in [b]Nicaragua[/b].[/quote][/size]



[url="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/08/1453219"]http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/08/1453219[/url]

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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='461494' date='Mar 23 2007, 05:23 PM'][size=4][/size]
[b][img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img]
:contract: A wealthy Saudi was a prominent mujahideen organizer by the name of ....
dang what was his name ....
Oba ben lay ....
no that's not it ....
oh yeah ....
[center][color="#556B2F"][size=6] :rant: Osama bin Laden [/size][/color]
[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/30.gif[/img][/b][/center][/quote]

... and????

The Soviets [b]INVADED[/b] Afghanaistan; a just cause for the mujahideen'; so yes Osama was fighting
as a "Freedom Fighter"............

.......... [b]THEN[/b]!!!

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[quote]Miguel D'Escoto, Catholic priest & Nicaragua's Foreign Minister in the 1980s[/quote]

[color="#000080"]Pope John Paul II admonished him and other priests in the government for getting involved in politics.[/color]

[i]As he should of, remember that separation of church and state thing, which is one of those things which we both agree on.[/i]

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[color="#008000"][b]would this not be the case then .... [/b][/color]


[quote name='Lawman' post='461545' date='Mar 23 2007, 07:15 PM']... and????

The [s]Soviets[/s] Americans [b]INVADED[/b] [s]Afghanaistan[/s] Iraq; so yes [s]Osama[/s] Al Sadr is fighting
as a "Freedom Fighter"............[/quote]


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[quote name='BlackJesus' post='461554' date='Mar 23 2007, 07:25 PM'][color="#008000"][b]would this not be the case then .... [/b][/color]
[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img][/quote]

[i]NO, Saddam's Bathist (socialist) were in charge with Al Sadr's Shittes the oppressed.

Damn, what gratitude[/i]. <_<

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everything they say in the first video is correct.

BJ cant see reality through his hippie left wing glasses though

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