You Usually Can't Go Wrong with a Samoan DT

[Guest happyrid]

[quote name='Scoutforlife591' post='479312' date='Apr 29 2007, 03:18 PM']This is a pick of him returning a turnover.

Ring a bell?

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You sure that's him? That guy doesn't look 300 pounds to me.

[Guest schotzee]

Good pickup by the sound.Sporting news had him rated as a 4th rounder.
Their take,could become a solid starter in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme but must improve his play against the run.

[Scoutforlife591]

Yep, that's him. Number 45, the caption said it, if you want to trace it back...

Perhaps it was him as a 285er.

[VonBlade]

If most of the downside of him is stuff you can coach, then a year behind Adams, JT and Peko will be easy to achieve, and when Fat Sam finally sinks into the earths crust and JT gets rightfully cut along with his enormous contract, we've got two Samoan Bulldozers to stuff the run.

Liking it. Certainly liking it more than a backup QB. But they're hard to like when you have God himself at QB already.

[Soundwave]

So, who goes if he makes the squad? Robinson?

[Guest oldschooler]

Video of Toeaina . . .

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[Guest oldschooler]

#45 Matt Toeaina


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Ht: 6-2 Wt: 307 40: 5.10
Position: DT, DE
Date of Birth: 10/9/1984
Class: Senior
High School: Samoana HS
(Pago Pago, AS)
College: Oregon



2007 Scout.com NFL Draft Rankings
Pos: DT Pos Rank: #21 Pos Rating:

Scout.com Player Evaluation:

[b]STRENGTHS [/b]
Change of Direction
Quickness off Ball
Toughness

[b]AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT [/b]
Disengaging Skills
Techniques and Moves


A two-gap stuffer who controls the point, Toeaina could flourish as a defensive end in a 34 system if he turns up the intensity and improves the details of his game.

Biography:
Full-time starter the past two seasons and an All-Conference selection as a senior after 36 tackles and three tackles for loss. Junior numbers were 36/3/6.

Pos:

Versatile lineman who has been used at both tackle and end. Very quick off the snap, plays with good pad level and anchors at the point. Redirects to the action and works to get involved in the play.

Neg:

Must do a better job using his hands to protect himself. Slow shedding blocks and gets wired at the point.



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i like this dude already

[EnglishBengal]

[quote name='Soundwave' post='479345' date='Apr 29 2007, 02:34 PM']So, who goes if he makes the squad? Robinson?[/quote]
Myers or Thornton.

Preferably Thornton. His cap number is killing us. Peko is ready to start next to Adams IMO. Myers and Adams will provide the same experience Thornton does, but at a cheaper price and slightly better level of play.

Starters: Adams,Peko
Backups: Myers,Toeaina

That's a pretty good rotation IMO.

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[url="http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=nfl/nfl/open/bengals/wmdemand/07draft-6_audio.WMA&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx"]conference call[/url]

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[quote name='VonBlade' post='479344' date='Apr 29 2007, 03:33 PM']If most of the downside of him is stuff you can coach, then a year behind Adams, JT and Peko will be easy to achieve, and when Fat Sam finally sinks into the earths crust and JT gets rightfully cut along with his enormous contract, we've got two Samoan Bulldozers to stuff the run.

Liking it. Certainly liking it more than a backup QB. But they're hard to like when you have God himself at QB already.[/quote]


jt doesnt have an enormous contract.

[Guest Bengals1181]

[quote name='oldschooler' post='479370' date='Apr 29 2007, 02:47 PM']Video of Toeaina . . .

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Man he looks fast for his size.

[-GoBengals-]

[quote name='VonBlade' post='479344' date='Apr 29 2007, 03:33 PM']If most of the downside of him is stuff you can coach, then a year behind Adams, JT and Peko will be easy to achieve, and when Fat Sam finally sinks into the earths crust and JT gets rightfully cut along with his enormous contract, we've got two Samoan Bulldozers to stuff the run.

Liking it. Certainly liking it more than a backup QB. But they're hard to like when you have God himself at QB already.[/quote]


how is someone who is in the top 35% of their position each year "rightfully cut" with only a fat old cripple and a barely past rookie the only other option you have?

[Scoutforlife591]

[quote name='happyrid' post='479328' date='Apr 29 2007, 03:26 PM']You sure that's him? That guy doesn't look 300 pounds to me.[/quote]

Odd that he looks black too.

Of course Dillon looks whiter than Danny Farmer.

[Guest Tigris]

sounds like his negatives are things that can be coached and corrected

[Soundwave]

[quote name='EnglishBengal' post='479383' date='Apr 29 2007, 03:57 PM']Myers or Thornton.

Preferably Thornton. His cap number is killing us. Peko is ready to start next to Adams IMO. Myers and Adams will provide the same experience Thornton does, but at a cheaper price and slightly better level of play.

Starters: Adams,Peko
Backups: Myers,Toeaina

That's a pretty good rotation IMO.[/quote]I highly doubt Myers. You don't see free agents like him get cut before the season starts too often. I don't think it would be Thornton either.

[Guest oldschooler]

Apparently he first went to Oregon as a FB.
He also went to school with Peko and Fanene.
And he chased Adrian Peterson down from behind.


Link to the Press Conference and Conference Call . . .

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[globetrotter]

[quote name='oldschooler' post='479439' date='Apr 29 2007, 04:34 PM']Apparently he first went to Oregon as a FB.
He also went to school with Peko and Fanene.
And he chased Adrian Peterson down from behind.
Link to the Press Conference and Conference Call . . .

[url="http://assets.bengals.com/assets/default/07rd6_transcript.pdf"]http://assets.bengals.com/assets/default/0..._transcript.pdf[/url][/quote]

What does his hair look like?

[Guest IndianaBengal]

Marv gonna tweek out the 3-4 skit on occasion??

[center][color="#FF8C00"][size=5]Geathers---Peko---Toeaina
Jeanty---Thurman---Brooks---Johnson[/size][/color][/center]

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[quote name='EnglishBengal' post='479383' date='Apr 29 2007, 03:57 PM']Myers or Thornton.

Preferably Thornton. [b]His cap number is killing us. Peko is ready to start next to Adams IMO. [/b] Myers and Adams will provide the same experience Thornton does, but at a cheaper price and slightly better level of play.

Starters: Adams,Peko
Backups: Myers,Toeaina

That's a pretty good rotation IMO.[/quote]


adams cant play 3 plays in a row or stay healthy, and we are no where near any kind of cap trouble, even keeping smith at nearly 9 million.

JT is by far our best and most experienced DT we have had in a decade, its foolish to even think he is going to be cut.

adams was a huge mistake,

how is it people can completely ignore th fact that the DT nest to JT has been replaced nearly every year, but he has kept his job?

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='globetrotter' post='479453' date='Apr 29 2007, 03:41 PM']What does his hair look like?[/quote]






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[globetrotter]

[quote name='GoBengals' post='479456' date='Apr 29 2007, 04:43 PM']adams cant play 3 plays in a row or stay healthy, and we are no where near any kind of cap trouble, even keeping smith at nearly 9 million.

JT is by far our best and most experienced DT we have had in a decade, its foolish to even think he is going to be cut.

adams was a huge mistake,

how is it people can completely ignore th fact that the DT nest to JT has been replaced nearly every year, but he has kept his job?[/quote]

I think you are spot on here and I am guilty of undervaluing JT. The reason for this is that JT never lived up to expectations. So the obvious reaction is get rid of him. To do so is to ignore the fact that currently he may be and probably is our best DT.


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Maybe he can unbraid it like Pekos!

[-GoBengals-]

[quote name='globetrotter' post='479470' date='Apr 29 2007, 04:49 PM']I think you are spot on here and I am guilty of undervaluing JT. The reason for this is that JT never lived up to expectations. So the obvious reaction is get rid of him. To do so is to ignore the fact that currently he may be and probably is our best DT.
Maybe he can unbraid it like Pekos![/quote]


i think thats where justin smith hatred comes from as well, regardless of draft position, he is a good football player, had he been a 4th round pick, people would be on his jock.

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