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A 5 page game thread ???? :o

You buncha slackers !


I was able to pick up the game on the Homer 1530 up here !

I caught both TD`s at half time of the High School game I went to.
The High School team got smooooked 39-7. And it wasn`t even that close . . .



Oh, and WHO-DEY !!!!!!!! :headbang:

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[quote name='Bengals1181' post='537951' date='Aug 31 2007, 11:05 PM']I wouldn't be super concerned with just tightness.[/quote]

On the flip side, better look at the Marvin Lewis Stated Injury Decoder Ring:
* Deep bone bruise (Braham) = Broken Leg
* Sports Hernia (C. Perry) = Needs Surgery
* Tweaked Hip (T. Petty) = Almost Bo Jackson-Like Career Ending Hip Injury

That could possibly mean that:
* Hamstring tightness = Leg broken in to three parts

-jd
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[quote][size=3][b]2nd string dominates both lineups[/b]
No Manning for Colts, no Palmer for Bengals in low-wattage Game 4[/size]
BY MARK CURNUTTE | MCURNUTTE@ENQUIRER.COM


Carson Palmer did not play Friday night in the preseason finale against Indianapolis.

Palmer was not injured. He was in uniform and warmed up before the game.

Doug Johnson started at quarterback for the Bengals.

Tailback Rudi Johnson did not play because he had an upper respiratory illness. Kenny Watson started instead.

The Bengals who did not play: Palmer, Johnson, kicker Shayne Graham (hip), cornerback Johnathan Joseph (foot), tailback Chris Perry (ankle), safety Dexter Jackson (concussion), linebacker Earl Everett, offensive tackle Willie Anderson (heel), wide receiver Bennie Brazell, wide receiver Antonio Chatman (hamstring), tight end Tim Day (knee), defensive end Frostee Rucker (hamstring) and linebacker Rashad Jeanty (lower leg).

Jeanty underwent calf surgery Friday morning. It went well with no complications, according to the Bengals public relations department.

There was no further information available on how long Jeanty will be out.


CHANGES: The Bengals had several lineup changes.

Leon Hall started at cornerback in place of Joseph.

Lemar Marshall started at strong-side linebacker in place of Jeanty.

Doug Johnson started at quarterback in place of Palmer.

Scott Kooistra started at right tackle for Anderson.

Andrew Whitworth started at left tackle in place of Levi Jones, who was expected to play.


ST. X: Marshall is a former St. Xavier High School player. Another former St. X player, linebacker Rocky Boiman, also got the start for Indianapolis, in place of regular starter Rob Morris.


OTHER SIDE: Indianapolis played its "B" team; 16 Colts starters did not play, including quarterback Peyton Manning and wide receiver Marvin Harrison. Fourteen of them, including Manning and Harrison, were not playing because of a coaching decision. They were not injured.

The Colts sat most of their big-name players. Also held out for the fourth preseason game were tight end Dallas Clark, wide receiver Reggie Wayne, tailback Joseph Addai and defensive ends Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis.


UPSTAIRS: Marvin Lewis coached from the press box Friday night. He is recovering from surgery to repair tendons in his right ankle.


LOOMING: NFL teams must cut their rosters to 53 players by 4 p.m. today. The Bengals roster stood at 75 players Friday night.[/quote]




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[quote][size=3][b]Bengals tune with win [/b][/size]
By GEOFF HOBSON
August 31, 2007
Updated: 9-1-07, 12:50 a.m.


In a finale where the injury list made more interest than the scoreboard, the Bengals staved off the Colts and a winless preseason by 14-6 Friday night at Paul Brown Stadium.

After the Bengals stopped a Hail Mary from Colts quarterback Josh Betts at the 1 as time ran out, Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis warned he isn't cutting his final roster to 53 Saturday with a wing and a prayer.

With several players nursing injuries that don't have set time frames, Lewis said it will be a factor in the decisions.

"That's what the team I inherited in '03 didn't quite understand," Lewis said. "If you malinger here, your butt is out of here. You're not going to help me. You don't help me malinger down there in the training room."

Before that, he said, "Some guys that are hurt are going to get better some place else."

And still Friday, that black cloud of injuries hanging over the Bengals ventured into the Theatre of Absurd

On his first play as a Bengal on the second-half kickoff, Aaron Elling, brought in just for this game to kick for the injured Shayne Graham, suffered the worst of knee injuries when he tore the anterior cruciate ligament planting his foot trying to make a tackle.

"We were supposed to go deep right and I hit it middle right," said Elling, on crutches in the locker room. "I got on my horse to go help the guys make the play because I kind of didn't hit it where I wanted to hit it.

"(Returner T.J. Rushing) was going out of bounds and I was flying over there. If a kicker can fly," he said. "I was just going to ride him out of bounds and he cut back. Instead of breaking down, I just maybe planted it and moving too fast. No chance."

In his last chance for a roster spot, running back Quincy Wilson, lugging the ball the last six times of the drive for 49 yards, broke a scoreless scrum with 5:28 left in the third quarter on a five-yard run.

"All you can do," Wilson said after ringing up 47 yards on 11 carries, "is show up here tomorrow and see what happens and hope it works for me like it did year."

With Chris Perry on the physically unable to perform list (PUP) last year, Wilson made the team. Now they have to decide by 4 p.m. Saturday if Perry goes on that list again, taking him out of practice for the first six weeks of the regular season.

Perry, coming back from ankle surgery, worked out before the game and doctors have to check him in the morning to see how he responds.

The Bengals suffered four turnovers in the first half, but they held on to avoid their first winless preseason since 1999 and finished 1-3.

And 65,243 were interested enough to come out for the second biggest preseason crowd ever at PBS.

It was a sight that impressed Lewis from the press box, where he coached the game on his surgically-repaired ankle.

"Sitting up there where I was sitting, being able to look across and being able to see the stadium filled like that and as loud as it was, has just been tremendous," Lewis said. "I know they're practicing too. They were a force tonight and that's great. Now they can save up for nine days and they can get ready to go. Like we're going to do, we're going to charge up. It was just awesome for people to come out tonight."

Punter Kyle Larson, with quarterback Doug Johnson holding, was also getting ready. Just in case. He was forced to convert the two extra points for the first time since high school. Usually Larson is the one doing the holding.

They needed him again 21 seconds after Wilson's touchdown when linebacker Caleb Miller returned running back DeDe Dorsey's fumble for a 46-yard touchdown escorted by two massive blocks from defensive lineman Jonathan Fanene on a return that made it 14-0.

Wilson rumbled for his touchdown behind the two starters left in the game, Levi Jones and fullback Jeremi Johnson. Wilson also had a nice stiff arm on cornerback Dante Hughes on the way to a 14-yard run.

But more injuries. Jeremi Johnson, who returned to practice only last week with a bevy of muscle problems, left early in the fourth quarter with "hamstring tightness," but Lewis said he should be fine.

So should tight end Reggie Kelly, who went down with a mild ankle problem early. Wide receiver Glenn Holt, who hasn't played a game this season because of a hamstring injury, didn't go again Friday night but he figures to make the roster. Starting center Eric Ghiaciuc is also supposed to be fine after being scratched with a stiff neck after warmups.

Miller's touchdown came courtesy of safety Herana-Daze Jones pulling the ball out of Dorsey's hands, and then Fanene just let loose on guard Matt Ulrich, and then moved off to drill Betts.

Then on his next drive, Betts threw a ball off Miller's helmet and rookie cornerback T.J. Wright picked it off on the rebound.

If it sounds like Miller was all over the place, he was with a game-high eight tackles, four passes defensed, the fumble recovery, and three tackles on special teams.

With the backups and the kids carrying the load, the Bengals defense threw a shutout in the first three quarters with some big plays by some of their young lions in holding the Colts to 198 yards, 241 for the game.

Starting middle linebacker Ahmad Brooks played late into the half and forced one of four Indy punts with a sack as he broke through the center.

"I thought Ahmad again takes another step forward, which is good," Lewis said.

Wright, grinding for a practice squad spot, stopped the farthest penetration of either team in the half when he covered third-and-one and fourth-and-one passes from the Bengals 29 with less than two minutes left in the half.

But more injuries. Wright left late in the game with a foot injury, and was wearing a boot in the locker room.

The Colts snapped the shutout with 5:29 left in the game when Betts hit wide receiver Craphonso Thorpe for a six-yard touchdown pass in front of safety John Busing. Then cornerback Keiwan Ratliff knocked away a two-point conversion to keep it at 14-6.

Betts threw in front of Ratliff on a 29-yard play, but Ratliff came back to make a good play on Thorpe covering him in the end zone to set up a fourth down from the Bengals 31. They held with 2:04 left when pressure on Betts from Matt Muncy forced a short incompletion.

Protecting Carson Palmer for the Sept. 10 opener, they started Doug Johnson and put him with some of the starters, including wide receivers Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Kelly.

But Johnson still uncorked interceptions on his first two drives.

On the first drive Johnson hit four different receivers, including Houshmandzadeh and Kelly as the Bengals drove to the Colts 30. But when Johnson tried to hit Houshmandzadeh again, one of the only Colts starters on the field, cornerback Marlin Jackson, picked him off.

Most of the healthy defensive starters were on the field for their first snap, and they forced a punt when Miller broke up a pass headed to old friend Dorsey, the Bengals' running back phenom from last preseason that the Colts picked up on waivers after this game last year.

Bengals wide receiver Skyler Green juked his way to a 17-yard punt return when he made the first guy, linebacker Ramon Guzman, miss.

Chad Johnson and Houshmandzadeh went back for the second series, and Doug Johnson threw it to Chad Johnson in double coverage for a Hughes interception at the Bengals 47.

Most of the defensive starters went back for the second series and forced a three-and-out, highlighted by rookie cornerback Leon Hall's big tackle in the slot as the nickel cornerback. The Colts, piloted by backup quarterback Jim Sorgi, managed just 20 yards in the first quarter and they had just 135 in the half.

Levi Jones checked in for the third offensive series with plans to give Andrew Whitworth some more snaps at right tackle later in the night.

But Scott Kooistra worked at right tackle virtually the entire game with no Whitworth. It did give Jones time to work with starting left guard Stacy Andrews, but Jones was fuming that he played deep into the game with the third teamers.

Doug Johnson finished the first quarter eight of 12 for 65 yards and Watson rushed for 35 yards on seven carries.

The Bengals mixed a few starters (defensive tackle Domata Peko, free safety Maidieu Williams) in that third series early in the second quarter, but it was the backups that forced a third straight punt. Sorgi got blown up on two blitzes as he was throwing, one by strong side backer Lemar Marshall and the other by rookie safety Marvin White. And Miller nearly made a leaping one-handed interception over the middle.

It's a good thing the defense came to play because the first three offensive series ended in turnovers. Wide receiver Chris Henry fumbled away a ball trying to make a move after catching a fourth-down pass.

Cornerback Blue Adams suited up for the first time since being shelved with a neck injury during the spring camps, so he can't go on the physically unable to perform list (PUP). But, like Holt, it looks like he'll make the team because of his special teams abilities. He showed some rust when he whiffed after being the first man down covering a punt early in the second quarter.

When rookie Jeff Rowe relieved Doug Johnson (nine of 14, 69 yards) with seven minutes left in the second quarter, Jones continued to work at left tackle with the reserves. But it was another blown-up series. Rowe got sacked once and then overthrew Henry over the middle on third down.

Rowe had another shot in a last-minute drill that he perfected in the first two games. But at the end of a 15-yard screen play, Wilson had the ball stripped out for a fumble.

Fittingly, Fanene and rookie Xzavie Jackson another guy grinding for the practice squad) finished the defensive half with a combined sack.

The first three quarters didn't exactly honor the two sitting Pro Bowl quarterbacks. The clubs' combined passer ratings didn't add up to what Palmer and Peyton Manning did by themselves last season. The Colts' 54.4 and the Bengals' 33.8 only got it to 88.2

It was only on Monday night that Graham suffered a bruised left hip trying to make a tackle on a kickoff, and the Bengals watched Elling end his season on this one. Lewis said after the game Graham will be able to kick Sept. 10, but they wanted to give him the night off.

"I don't know what to think. Being helpless as it is, and feeling useless for the game, and then you see the guy that is filling in for you after you go down," Graham said. "It's like 'what do we do now?' Kyle did a great job of stepping in and hitting the extra points and the kickoffs. Kyle proved he is a versatile athlete and he did a great job."


PREGAME NOTES: The preseason finale with the Super Bowl champion Colts at Paul Brown Stadium wasn't exactly filled with the biggest names. Quarterback Carson Palmer, right tackle Willie Anderson, and running back Rudi Johnson didn't play.

With both teams looking to protect their top players before next week's regular-season opener, the Colts' Peyton Manning, Palmer's fellow Pro Bowl quarterback and reigning Super Bowl MVP, also didn't play.

Also on the DNP list is the other Super Bowl MVP in the building Friday, Bengals safety Dexter Jackson (concussion).

Johnson, who finishes the preseason with 116 yards on 24 carries for a 4.8 yard average, arrived slightly ill and gave way to Kenny Watson.

Palmer is fine and so apparently is Levi Jones after he made his season debut four days ago in Atlanta following knee rehab. He had been cleared to play, but Andrew Whitworth got the start as the Bengals play it safe.

That also appears to be the strategy with Anderson, which means he won't play a preseason game as he tries to get ready for the Sept. 10 opener.

After he returned to practice for the first time this year this past Wednesday, the Bengals have apparently decided they'd rather have Anderson ready for the seven practices leading up to that Monday night game against the Ravens.

Anderson, six games away from breaking into the Bengals' top five list for consecutive games played, starts the '07 season at 112.

The Colts had 16 changes in their starting lineup and had benched the big names like wide receivers Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, tight end Dallas Clark, running back Joseph Addai, and safety Bob Sanders.

The Bengals made six changes, with rookie Leon Hall starting in place of Johnathan Joseph (foot) at cornerback. Plus, Lemar Marshall, a Bengal for just eight days, made his first start when he went in place of Rashad Jeanty (leg) at strong-side linebacker.

Rookie safety Chinedum Ndukwe made the start in place of Dexter Jackson.

As announced, Shayne Graham (hip) won't kick for the Bengals, replaced by the newly-acquired Aaron Elling.

Running back Chris Perry worked out before the game and looked good, but the biggest thing will be how he feels the morning after. The Bengals have to cut their roster to 53 by 4 p.m Saturday.

Head coach Marvin Lewis, heading the list of walking wounded planned to be in the press box with his surgically-repaired ankle.

The new year-long captains, Palmer and defensive tackle John Thornton, took the toss, along with Watson, the game's special teams captain, and were dressed in orange jerseys and white pants.

The Bengals did drop their top two kick returners for the opening kick, wide receivers Tab Perry and Skyler Green. Green made a nice move to the outside for a 20-yard gain.[/quote]




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