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I posted before and its gone. :huh:


I know a few posters here have knowledge of digital cameras. So I need your help.


I am looking to get a halfway decent digital camera. I dont need anything spectacular. Decent zoom, decent quality, decent amount of featuters and what not. Price range is hopefully 200 or less. I found these 2 cameras (links below) let me know what you think and if there is a better deal/value than that.

[url="http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0257392"]http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_...duct_id=0257392[/url]

[url="http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0242375"]http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_...duct_id=0242375[/url]


I dont know what I should look for in a camera really. From what I know, if its possible i would like a little more zoom. I felt these 2 were solid cameras for their price for me. Ideas/Advice?

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I've had a Fuji and it was nice (my only issue with it was shutter speed, but that is an issue with most of the lower end cameras and this one was right at $500). I have a Canon D30 but it is a DSLR so it is in their higher-end line. I don't know what you're going to do with it just be aware of shutter speeds. A lot of these cheaper cameras have extremely slow shutter speeds so you have to be very still when shooting and action shots are difficult to capture well. I took a lot of pictures of my kids playing sports, etc. and I'd shoot 50-60 images and maybe 2-3 were decent, maybe.

If you're talking stills with scenary, etc. with little to no motion I'd think either will do a good job. If you ever wanted to blow up pictures to 8x10, 11x14 you'd safely be able to save a 5-6 mb image and be able to do that with no recognizable pixelation at all. Down in your 1-2 mb cameras as you blow the image up you'll start to pixelate it the larger you go.

A lot depends entirely on what you're environment is and your subject matter.

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main thing to understand is zoom, digital zoom is 100% useless, its basically blowing up the photo. optical zoom is actual zoom by the lens, i would spend $250 and get something with 10-12x optical zoom and 6-7MPixals. the extra $50-75 is well worth it...

i have a kodak p712 i use for games and stuff until my new one arrives, it was $299-450 somewhere in there... its great, zoom is great, quality is great,

you truely get what you pat for in cameras...

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[quote name='GoBengals' post='541781' date='Sep 7 2007, 11:50 AM']main thing to understand is zoom, digital zoom is 100% useless, its basically blowing up the photo. optical zoom is actual zoom by the lens, i would spend $250 and get something with 10-12x optical zoom and 6-7MPixals. the extra $50-75 is well worth it...

i have a kodak p712 i use for games and stuff until my new one arrives, it was $299-450 somewhere in there... its great, zoom is great, quality is great,

you truely get what you pat for in cameras...[/quote]
should i look for a certain brand? kodak?

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what do you guys think of this?

[url="http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0255832"]http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_...duct_id=0255832[/url]


and this

[url="http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0257571"]http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_...duct_id=0257571[/url]

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[quote name='ThurmanMunster' post='541789' date='Sep 7 2007, 12:00 PM']what do you guys think of this?

[url="http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0255832"]http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_...duct_id=0255832[/url]
and this

[url="http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0257571"]http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_...duct_id=0257571[/url][/quote]
The Fuji for $229.99 is a nicer spec'd camera. You want to look at minimum shutter speed which is inversely telling you the slowest that it will open it's eye at. The other one shows a 15 secs - if you're using a tripod you could get away with that but if not you're picture will look like shit. The only time it would be open that long would be at night or in a blacked out room as it is trying to pull in as much light as it can.


Shutter speed is how long the camera eye stays open. The longer it is open the better for low light conditions but the higher potential for fuzzy pictures. If go with a 1/4 minimum shutter speed you'll have to make sure of your lighting as in a dark situation it could cause dark pictures since the eye may be starved for light since it won't stay open as long as the 15 sec unit. Basically, there are pros and cons to each. If you go with a shorter shutter speed you might have to compensate for light. Go with the longer shutter speed then you have to compensate for stability. In ideal light conditions you want the maximum shutter speed units as pictures will be more crisp since there was extremely little time for motion, etc. that could affect the shot. As Go said, you get what you pay for.

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Can't go wrong with a canon.
I have had my powershot for over three years and still works great.
It's crazy how cheap these things have gotten. I paid $275 for a 3.2 Megapixel camera in 04.

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[quote name='ThurmanMunster' post='541990' date='Sep 7 2007, 04:52 PM']wow sweet. how the fuck does microcenters website go down? piece of shit.[/quote]


go to pricegrabber.com and search the camera model you decie, save a few bucks, get some extra memory cards or something.

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[quote name='GoBengals' post='542025' date='Sep 7 2007, 05:43 PM']go to pricegrabber.com and search the camera model you decie, save a few bucks, get some extra memory cards or something.[/quote]
you are the shit when it comes to online shopping for electronics.

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[quote name='ThurmanMunster' post='542029' date='Sep 7 2007, 05:57 PM']you are the shit when it comes to online shopping for electronics.[/quote]


i think that just makes me a bigger geek. :mellow:

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[quote name='GoBengals' post='542036' date='Sep 7 2007, 06:06 PM']i think that just makes me a bigger geek. :mellow:[/quote]
it was 229 at microcenter. found it for 196 at www.digitalfotoclub.com is that site a worthy place? altho i was hoping to get it before monday to take pics of you badasses im gonna meet at the game. so i may have to bite on the 229 anyways :(



i need to find a discount for the LG enV

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