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[quote name='USNBENGAL the Original' post='550248' date='Sep 16 2007, 07:27 PM']Thanks Palmer4HOF... at least one of you guys give a damn.[/quote]


I guess we have different levels of what we find offensive.

But you are right though, I dont give a damn. Im far more upset about the D's preformance than I am about that. ;)

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I don't really know how to respond to any of this. BJ's kind of always been given a lot of leeway around here before these new rules, and honestly, they were only enforced for a couple of days and everyone sort of forgot about them afterwards. I do believe that they were initially geared more towards porn, although leaving it "up to the mods" to decide what is or isn't offensive is kind of difficult as we have many different personalities as moderators and we won't always agree on what constitutes offensiveness.
I'm so used to BJ's shenanigans now after three years that I either scan right over his stuff, ignore it or laugh my ass off, depending on the subject matter.

I suspect we'll just have to refer the thread to Go and allow him to make a final decision on this matter as it has apparently struck a nerve with some of you, which is fine.

I just hate censorship in all it's forms, and only enforce it reluctantly, and really in my mind just to mainly keep pornography off our website so we don't run afoul of the law, as we have minors that are members here and we cannot condone porn for that reason.

Anyone want to discuss this, I'm all ears and full of sobriety-driven energy (and lots of Mountain Dew).
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[quote name='Bunghole' post='550259' date='Sep 16 2007, 07:32 PM']I don't really know how to respond to any of this. BJ's kind of always been given a lot of leeway around here before these new rules, and honestly, they were only enforced for a couple of days and everyone sort of forgot about them afterwards. I do believe that they were initially geared more towards porn, although leaving it "up to the mods" to decide what is or isn't offensive is kind of difficult as we have many different personalities as moderators and we won't always agree on what constitutes offensiveness.
I'm so used to BJ's shenanigans now after three years that I either scan right over his stuff, ignore it or laugh my ass off, depending on the subject matter.

I suspect we'll just have to refer the thread to Go and allow him to make a final decision on this matter as it has apparently struck a nerve with some of you, which is fine.

I just hate censorship in all it's forms, and only enforce it reluctantly, and really in my mind just to mainly keep pornography off our website so we don't run afoul of the law, as we have minors that are members here and we cannot condone porn for that reason.[/quote]


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[quote name='The_Joker' post='550175' date='Sep 16 2007, 06:56 PM']First of all I never jump on a mod, I only requested the end of the censorship and then took a shot at you because you seem to be the one doing the most crying. I have donated to this site, have you? And because I have I think I am entitled an opinion.

BTW Squid...

Two Navy faggots were standing in San Diego looking out over the harbour. One of them pointed to a ferry and asked, "Biff, what's that?"

"That's a ferry-boat, George my love," answered Biff.

"Oooh!" Squealed George, "I knew there was a lot of us, but I didn't know we had our own navy!"
:P[/quote]

As a matter of fact, I have donated money to this site asshole. Your opinion is duly noted.. asinine and juvenile, but duly noted.

Batavia huh?

The Kentucky of Southwest Ohio... that shining beacon of incest and ignorance... why am I not surprised that an idiot from Batavia is acting like this?
It seems that some things never change... like the fact that all the sewage from Clermont County empties into and STILL resides in Batavia. Apparently the sewage is spawning trash like "Joker".

Elflocko... sounds like you're speaking from experience with that submarine thing there. They say that the only ones who know about that are the ones who've taken part in it.

If the shoe fits kids, wear it.

Bunghole & Jamie... if you don't want to support the RULES that Go put up (and that Palmer4HOF so eloquently pointed out), at least you could show a fellow moderator some support huh?

The Bengals D is one thing, we have NO control over it.

The dumbasses on this board are another thing altogether... you're SUPPOSED to exercise some control over it.

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[color="#FF0000"][b]Ok white people ........settle down and take a deep breath.......

I think every one is a little edgey, especially after what transpired today. Squash it and let it die now.

There will be cooler heads tomorrow.[/b][/color]
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[quote name='ONYX' post='550298' date='Sep 16 2007, 07:46 PM'][color="#FF0000"][b]Ok white people ........settle down and take a deep breath.......

I think every one is a little edgey, especially after what transpired today. Squash it and let it die now.

There will be cooler heads tomorrow.[/b][/color][/quote]


racist :P

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[quote name='USNBENGAL the Original' post='550288' date='Sep 16 2007, 05:41 PM']As a matter of fact, I have donated money to this site asshole. Your opinion is duly noted.. asinine and juvenile, but duly noted.

Batavia huh?

The Kentucky of Southwest Ohio... that shining beacon of incest and ignorance... why am I not surprised that an idiot from Batavia is acting like this?
It seems that some things never change... like the fact that all the sewage from Clermont County empties into and STILL resides in Batavia. Apparently the sewage is spawning trash like "Joker".

Elflocko... sounds like you're speaking from experience with that submarine thing there. They say that the only ones who know about that are the ones who've taken part in it.

If the shoe fits kids, wear it.

Bunghole & Jamie... if you don't want to support the RULES that Go put up (and that Palmer4HOF so eloquently pointed out), at least you could show a fellow moderator some support huh?

The Bengals D is one thing, we have NO control over it.

The dumbasses on this board are another thing altogether... you're SUPPOSED to exercise some control over it.[/quote]

there's no rules against being a dumbass.
And that's just it...not everyone agrees, whether it be members or moderators, that gifs or pics of someone puking or committing suicide are offensive.
How is that different from someone typing "OMG I'm going to kill myself!"?
Where is the line drawn?
This is open to a bit of interpretation, especially since this place has always prided itself on a lack of censorship.
I mean, you guys are mentioning sponsors and all, but whom are they?
A t-shirt company that makes "offensive" t-shirts and a sports book?
If they aren't offended by the non-stop use of the words "fuck" and "shit" and "cunt", then I hardly see how a few disgusting gifs are going to scare them or their customers away.
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[quote name='Bunghole' post='550301' date='Sep 16 2007, 07:47 PM']there's no rules against being a dumbass.
And that's just it...not everyone agrees, whether it be members or moderators, that gifs or pics of someone puking or committing suicide are offensive.
How is that different from someone typing "OMG I'm going to kill myself!"?
Where is the line drawn?
This is open to a bit of interpretation, especially since this place has always prided itself on a lack of censorship.
I mean, you guys are mentioning sponsors and all, but whom are they?
A t-shirt company that makes "offensive" t-shirts and a sports book?
If they aren't offended by the non-stop use of the words "fuck" and "shit" and "cunt", then I hardly see how a few disgusting gifs are going to scare them or their customers away.[/quote]


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[quote name='sneaky' post='550298' date='Sep 16 2007, 07:46 PM'][color="#FF0000"][b]Ok white people ........settle down and take a deep breath.......

I think every one is a little edgey, especially after what transpired today. Squash it and let it die now.

There will be cooler heads tomorrow.[/b][/color][/quote]


Why does it have to be white people?

I'll have you know that I'm a fine shade of oak...
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='550299' date='Sep 16 2007, 07:46 PM']racist :P[/quote]

[color="#FF0000"][b]Whenever I see white people fighting, I try to immediatley figure out which side is wearing
grey and which side is wearing blue.[/b][/color]

:ninja:

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[quote name='Bunghole' post='550301' date='Sep 16 2007, 07:47 PM']there's no rules against being a dumbass.
And that's just it...not everyone agrees, whether it be members or moderators, that gifs or pics of someone puking or committing suicide are offensive.
How is that different from someone typing "OMG I'm going to kill myself!"?
Where is the line drawn?
This is open to a bit of interpretation, especially since this place has always prided itself on a lack of censorship.
I mean, you guys are mentioning sponsors and all, but whom are they?
A t-shirt company that makes "offensive" t-shirts and a sports book?
If they aren't offended by the non-stop use of the words "fuck" and "shit" and "cunt", then I hardly see how a few disgusting gifs are going to scare them or their customers away.[/quote]

Does it matter who the sponsors are? If you want to try and say that those posts weren't offensive, then say it outright and be done with it. One of your fellow moderators did what he thought was right, and others thought so too, but since it was BJ... you guys want to "take it easy" on him?

I call bullshit.

You're really going to try to say that there is no difference between showing someone cutting their wrists/blowing their brains out or puking and someone typing "OMG I'm going to kill myself"?

Interpretation is one thing, common sense is another. I have no trouble with you guys sticking up for somone who has been around here a lot longer... I expected it. If you guys want to work it that way, then so be it.

Truth be known, I didn't/won't report ANY posts as offensive. I'll post what I think directly to the one who posted it.... publicly.

If you want to find fault with me for sticking up for this site.. then by all means do so. I won't stop what I'm doing because I like this place and don't want to see it ruined by idiots.

Opinions... they are wonderful things.
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[color="#2F4F4F"][font="Arial Narrow"][size=3][b]I posted the same gifs that I have been posting on here for years ... hell he even deleted the sight of someone puking for fucks sake !!!

For the past 3 years I have presented a certain MO ... and all I know is the number of posters has never declined ... but gone up every month (now I am not the main reason Go's hard work is ... but you would think if I was so ghastly offensive that people would be fleeing in droves. Not to mention the irony that I personally went out into the Cyber World and recruited many of the same people to the site who will bitch about me know). Also I follow the NWS rules ... but this was not porn ... should we have another categorie now ... NSFTA ... Not safe for tight asses

Whenever Go tells me to cool it I do ... but it is Go's site ... and not Palmerhallofcock's job and his choir of ass buddies to decide what is offensive and delete my shit without telling me. The rules state I am supposed to be told I am being censored ... and Palmerhof deleted me over and over for a half an hour without even telling me it was him ... then only did say it was him after I asked repeatedly to know what was going on.

All the normal posters on here know that I play the "Suicide" shtick when the Bengals lose ... that was all it was ... a joke in the context of losing ... if offended place me on ignore. Also remember ... just because 3 people object does not mean everyone is offended ... in fact I would gage for every 1 person that objects there is 10 people who find it comical ... and for my proof I would use the fact that NOONE will place me on ignore for fucks sake !

Now I realize losing brings out the worst in most on here ... myself included ... so I will try and view the whine fest in that context ... and hope that in the future Go will correct any of the misconceptions about posting ettiquette. [/b][/size][/font][/color]
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[quote name='USNBENGAL the Original' post='550333' date='Sep 16 2007, 06:00 PM']Does it matter who the sponsors are? If you want to try and say that those posts weren't offensive, then say it outright and be done with it. One of your fellow moderators did what he thought was right, and others thought so too, but since it was BJ... you guys want to "take it easy" on him?

I call bullshit.

You're really going to try to say that there is no difference between showing someone cutting their wrists/blowing their brains out or puking and someone typing "OMG I'm going to kill myself"?

Interpretation is one thing, common sense is another. I have no trouble with you guys sticking up for somone who has been around here a lot longer... I expected it. If you guys want to work it that way, then so be it.

Truth be known, I didn't/won't report ANY posts as offensive. I'll post what I think directly to the one who posted it.... publicly.

If you want to find fault with me for sticking up for this site.. then by all means do so. I won't stop what I'm doing because I like this place and don't want to see it ruined by idiots.

Opinions... they are wonderful things.[/quote]
Ok then...I didn't find the posts particularly offensive...gross, yes, but...BJ has been posting that crap forever. i guess I'm just used to it.
A few of you guys DID find it offensive, including one of our moderators, and that's OK too. It has spurred some debate about what the interpretation of the rules are.
I mean, how do we determine in this "grey area" what is and isn't offensive? I only counted three or four of you out of the hundreds of people occupyng this thread today raising the issue about those GIF's.
Again I ask, where to draw the line? Do we vote on it?
If I say "fuck" every other word and people are offended, am I then outside the rules, even though we're allowed to use profanity here?
I'm certainly not "defending" BJ as you suggest just because he's been around here for a long time.
What I am asking is that if only a few posters raise an objection to something, does that qualify it for moderation?
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