Homer_Rice Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 [url="http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=zeppelin&destruction=massive&sound=on&url=http://www.steelernation.com/forums/index.php"]Just killing some time...[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizno Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Thats fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bammorrisgotmehigh Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 LOL, that is pretty good. Objective question. I know you all hate us with everything you got but putting that down for a second. What do you think of the admision today that the Patriots have been taping since 2000 and also specifically in Specter's press conference he said that they taped the Steelers on 4 occasions. I am pretty mad about it. Maybe I shouldn't be and it's not as big as I think but to me it's like playing someone in Madden and peaking over their shoulders to see what play they chose. That gives you an advantage. It's one thing to be good at deciphering hand signals. Happens all the time in baseball and probably football. That is a skill unto itself but it's a whole other thing to be electronically taping someone, studying them for 2 months and then I guarantee using that info to get an advantage to get to the freaking Super Bowl as it seems to have been found out happened in 2004 when we beat them bad the 1st game but lost the AFCC. Yea Ben had a terrible AFCC game that year and it was pretty much blamed on being a rookie and all but what if "this" contributed to his bad game? Guess what I am saying if it happened to the Bengals I'm sure you'd be pissed bigtime and do I have a right to be? Hell, maybe it did happen to you all as I'm sure you played them during this stretch. Maybe it was the difference between one of your 8-8 seasons or going 9-7 and making the playoffs. I'm hoping this blows up like Clemens has, but with it being conviently done on the same day as his thing I'm not seeing much about this. I so hope Bellicheck gets nailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 [quote name='bammorrisgotmehigh' post='632121' date='Feb 13 2008, 11:10 PM']LOL, that is pretty good. Objective question. I know you all hate us with everything you got but putting that down for a second. What do you think of the admision today that the Patriots have been taping since 2000 and also specifically in Specter's press conference he said that they taped the Steelers on 4 occasions. I am pretty mad about it. Maybe I shouldn't be and it's not as big as I think but to me it's like playing someone in Madden and peaking over their shoulders to see what play they chose. That gives you an advantage. It's one thing to be good at deciphering hand signals. Happens all the time in baseball and probably football. That is a skill unto itself but it's a whole other thing to be electronically taping someone, studying them for 2 months and then I guarantee using that info to get an advantage to get to the freaking Super Bowl as it seems to have been found out happened in 2004 when we beat them bad the 1st game but lost the AFCC. Yea Ben had a terrible AFCC game that year and it was pretty much blamed on being a rookie and all but what if "this" contributed to his bad game? Guess what I am saying if it happened to the Bengals I'm sure you'd be pissed bigtime and do I have a right to be? Hell, maybe it did happen to you all as I'm sure you played them during this stretch. Maybe it was the difference between one of your 8-8 seasons or going 9-7 and making the playoffs. I'm hoping this blows up like Clemens has, but with it being conviently done on the same day as his thing I'm not seeing much about this. I so hope Bellicheck gets nailed.[/quote] First off, Congress focusing so much on sports right now is scandalous; there are WAYYYY bigger problems they can be addressing but aren't. But since they're uncovering all this stuff it would be foolish to toss it in the wastebin on principle. So yes, the patriots are smarmy douchebags, and yes I want to see bellicheck get nailed (not by Congress, of course). I understand why you're pissed (yes, it's ok to be extra pissed about this), and if it were the Bengals, I would be, too. But I am incapable of feeling bad for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer_Rice Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 [quote name='bammorrisgotmehigh' post='632121' date='Feb 13 2008, 11:10 PM']LOL, that is pretty good. Objective question. I know you all hate us with everything you got but putting that down for a second.[/quote] Actually, I don't hate the Steelers. I wish the Bengals organization were more like the Steelers in some respects, and I think Big Ben is a better QB than most people here give him credit for. I agree with Cincy re the Pats. And on Clemens, all I can say is that he makes Pete Rose look pretty good right about now. And in other division news, I see that Kyle Boller has made a music video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 [quote name='bammorrisgotmehigh' post='632121' date='Feb 13 2008, 11:10 PM']LOL, that is pretty good. Objective question. I know you all hate us with everything you got but putting that down for a second. What do you think of the admision today that the Patriots have been taping since 2000 and also specifically in Specter's press conference he said that they taped the Steelers on 4 occasions. I am pretty mad about it. Maybe I shouldn't be and it's not as big as I think but to me it's like playing someone in Madden and peaking over their shoulders to see what play they chose. That gives you an advantage. It's one thing to be good at deciphering hand signals. Happens all the time in baseball and probably football. That is a skill unto itself but it's a whole other thing to be electronically taping someone, studying them for 2 months and then I guarantee using that info to get an advantage to get to the freaking Super Bowl as it seems to have been found out happened in 2004 when we beat them bad the 1st game but lost the AFCC. Yea Ben had a terrible AFCC game that year and it was pretty much blamed on being a rookie and all but what if "this" contributed to his bad game? Guess what I am saying if it happened to the Bengals I'm sure you'd be pissed bigtime and do I have a right to be? Hell, maybe it did happen to you all as I'm sure you played them during this stretch. Maybe it was the difference between one of your 8-8 seasons or going 9-7 and making the playoffs. I'm hoping this blows up like Clemens has, but with it being conviently done on the same day as his thing I'm not seeing much about this. I so hope Bellicheck gets nailed.[/quote] You mean you're pissed because another team cheated you out of a fair contest? Yeah I dont know what that's like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bammorrisgotmehigh Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='632336' date='Feb 14 2008, 05:46 PM']You mean you're pissed because another team cheated you out of a fair contest? Yeah I dont know what that's like. [/quote] Still would have won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie_B Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 [quote name='bammorrisgotmehigh' post='632372' date='Feb 14 2008, 08:25 PM']Still would have won [/quote] Drinking on a weekday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bammorrisgotmehigh Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Proud that my team is taking the high road and I guess I should as well. Still funny though that it looks like the issue is turning into the Energizer Bunny. Specter: Goodell's Spygate explanations don't pass scrutiny</H1>By Mike Fish ESPN.com Updated: February 15, 2008, 2:26 AM ET [list] [*] A day after meeting with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in Washington D.C., Sen. Arlen Specter said he continues to be troubled by a number of issues surrounding the league's handling of Spygate and will continue his investigation. [*]Specter (R-Pa.) told ESPN.com that Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) offered support on Thursday for his inquiry into the [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe"][color="#000000"]New England Patriots[/color][/url]' questionable videotaping practices, saying Leahy is "prepared to have the committee pay for people who travel and investigate." Leahy sat in on a part of Wednesday's session with Goodell and league counsel, Specter said. [+] [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3246788#"][size=1][color="#666666"]Enlarge[/color][/size][/url][size=1][color="#666666"][/color][/color][url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3246788#"][size=1][color="#666666"][img]http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0214/nfl_a_specter_200.jpg[/img][/size][/size][/url] AP Photo/Lauren Victoria Burke Sen. Arlen Specter, ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, calls Roger Goodell's reasoning for the destroying of the Spygate evidence "absurd." "I'm determined to go forward," said Specter, the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee. "You have answers and positions where [Goodell] is saying that with the destruction of tapes that, 'We did the right thing. We're absolutely sure.' "Well, that is absurd . . . Goodell says things that don't make sense." Among the issues that continue to trouble Specter are: • Goodell's imposition of a penalty -- the loss of a first-round draft pick, a $500,000 fine to coach Bill Belichick and a $250,000 to the team -- before the Patriots had turned over evidence, including notes dating to 2002 and six tapes from the 2006 season and 2007 preseason, requested by the league. The Patriots were caught videotaping defensive signals from the sidelines in their Sept. 9 season opener against the [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj"][color="#000000"]New York Jets[/color][/url]. The commissioner imposed his penalty on Sept. 13, four days before New England provided the tapes and notes. "Did they know the scope of the wrongdoing before the penalty was imposed?" asked Specter, a former Philadelphia district attorney. "The answer is no." NFL spokesperson Greg Aiello, in response on Thursday, said Goodell's hasty punishment stemmed from the fact that the Patriots had been caught at the Jets game and Belichick's admission that he had been taping signals since he became New England's head coach in 2000. Belichick reportedly told Goodell that he thought he was within the rules to tape other team's signals as long as the information wasn't used in the game at hand. "[Goodell] issued the discipline as quickly as could to send a strong message to teams that this wouldn't be tolerated, and there'd be a severe penalty if you violated the rules," Aiello said. "The discipline included they had to turn over everything that had related to that taping procedure." Specter heard that explanation from Goodell on Wednesday. On Thursday, Specter said, "The word absurd and ridiculous keep coming to my mind, because he [Goodell] says it with a straight face." • Specter said it was unsettling to learn that the tapes, as well as notes, turned over by the Patriots in September had been destroyed in Foxboro rather than in the league's New York offices. Aiello said the documents and tapes were destroyed after they were reviewed by NFL officials Jeffrey Pash and Ray Anderson, and that the call to destroy the material came from Goodell, saying "There's no further use for it, so he said get rid of it." [img]http://assets.espn.go.com/i/story/design07/dropQuote.gif[/img] [b]Nobody could use those. They are scrap paper -- except evidence. [img]http://assets.espn.go.com/i/story/design07/dropQuoteEnd.gif[/img] [/b] [*]-- Sen. Arlen Specter, on the notion Spygate materials were destroyed to avoid a competitive advantage Specter said the league's suggestion that the material, particularly the notes dating to the 2002 season, was destroyed because it might have afforded a competitive advantage is unbelievable. "Everything has changed," he said. "Nobody could use those. They are scrap paper -- except evidence." With the evidence destroyed, Specter said there is no way to tell what advantage the Patriots might have gained in the illegal taping practice. • Specter is particularly concerned about how the taping might have affected New England's games involving teams from his home state in the 2004 playoffs. In a preseason opener in August of that year at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, the Patriots and the [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=phi"][color="#000000"]Philadelphia Eagles[/color][/url] played in what proved to be a preview of the 2005 Super Bowl, won by the Patriots 24-21. And in an Oct. 31 regular-season game in Pittsburgh, the Steelers beat the Patriots 34-20. Those two teams later met in the AFC title game, which New England won, 41-27. Later Thursday, the Steelers released a statement that read: "We consider the tapes of our coaching staff during our games against the New England Patriots to be a non-issue. In our opinion, they had no impact on the results of those games. The Steelers fully support the manner in which Commissioner Goodell handled the situation and the discipline that he levied against those who violated league rules. We are confident that the Commissioner has taken appropriate action in his investigation of this matter, and will do so again if new information arises which requires further investigation and or discipline." • Specter believes the NFL hasn't gone far enough in its offer of legal protection to former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh, who has told ESPN.com that he has potentially embarrassing information about the team's taping practices. The league has offered to indemnify Walsh against exposure to a lawsuit from the Patriots, but the proposal stipulates that Walsh must tell the truth and return anything he took improperly. Under those conditions, the team could still file suit against Walsh even after he turns over evidence to the Patriots and league. "Matt Walsh is an important guy, and they have made it so conditional," Specter said. "All they got to do is say, 'We're not going to sue you.' It is not a big deal." Specter said he has spoken with Walsh's attorney three times in the last two days and understands that Walsh is "scared." He said the Judiciary Committee could afford Walsh immunity if Walsh is ever summoned to testify at a Senate hearing. He described both Walsh and his attorney as "cooperative." • Specter said he was concerned to learn from Walsh's attorney that an NFL security representative, Dick Farley, had been investigating Walsh. Specter said: "I confronted them on that, and Goodell says, 'Yeah, he [Farley] works for us. Yeah, he is a security guy, but we didn't know he was investigating him.' " Aiello said Thursday that it is an overstatement to suggest the league is investigating Walsh. "The only thing we're doing is looking at public records and trying to verify his employment history in an effort to learn about him," Aiello said. [i]Mike Fish is an investigative reporter for ESPN.com. He can be reached at michaeljfish@gmail.com.[/i] [/list] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 [quote]Proud that my team is taking the high road[/quote] :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 seriously why is that site set at 600 x 800? the forum uses less than half of my computer screen... ever heard of fit to screen assholes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawg Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='632428' date='Feb 15 2008, 08:10 AM']Drinking on a weekday? [/quote] What is your record against us since that game when Kimo, (came from the Bengals) rolled up on Carson's knee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 [quote name='BigDawg' post='641830' date='Mar 9 2008, 10:11 AM']What is your record against us since that game when Kimo, (came from the Bengals) rolled up on Carson's knee?[/quote] a little late to the party are we? what did you just now sober up? By the way how is Harrison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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