Inigo Montoya Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Everyday Lineup (8): 1B Joey Votto 2B Brandon Phillips SS Alex Gonzalez 3B Edwin Encarnacion LF Adam Dunn CF Norris Hopper RF Ken Griffey Jr. C David Ross Bench (4): OF/IF Ryan Freel IF Jeff Keppinger 1B Scott Hatteberg C Javier Valentin Rotation (5): SP Aaron Harang SP Bronson Arroyo SP Matt Belisle SP Josh Fogg SP Homer Bailey Bullpen (8): RP Francisco Cordero RP David Weathers RP Jared Burton RP Gary Majewski RP Bill Bray RP Mike Stanton RP Jeremy Affeldt RP Todd Coffey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmer4HOF Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Everyday Lineup (8): 1B Joey Votto 2B Brandon Phillips SS Alex Gonzalez 3B Edwin Encarnacion LF Adam Dunn CF Jay Bruce RF Ken Griffey Jr. C David Ross Bench (5): OF Norris Hopper IF Juan Castro IF Jeff Keppinger 1B Scott Hatteberg C Javier Valentin Rotation (5): SP Aaron Harang SP Bronson Arroyo SP Matt Belisle SP Edison Volquez SP Josh Fogg Bullpen (7): RP Francisco Cordero RP David Weathers RP Jared Burton RP Gary Majewski RP John Coutlangus RP Jeremy Affeldt RP Josh Roenicke My wildcards are Roenicke is in, Bray starts on DL, Stanton gets cut, Coffey is dealt or cut or sent down if still has options, Castro makes 25 man and Freel (or hopper) gets dealt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Tory Go! Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Wow - looking over these last two proposals, this team looks good. For the first time in a while, I think the problem is 'who gets left out?' instead of 'whom can we find?' Except at catcher, of course, although I don't think Ross can possibly look worse at the plate than he did last year. And if he does, it won't be called the Mendoza line anymore. I think I'm really going to like this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 [quote name='Go Tory Go!' post='635072' date='Feb 23 2008, 06:40 PM']Wow - looking over these last two proposals, this team looks good. For the first time in a while, I think the problem is 'who gets left out?' instead of 'whom can we find?' Except at catcher, of course, although I don't think Ross can possibly look worse at the plate than he did last year. And if he does, it won't be called the Mendoza line anymore. I think I'm really going to like this team.[/quote] I agree. My prediction had Bruce, Cueto, Volquez, and Coutlangus not making the team out of camp. I can see being wrong on each of those guys. I think the team will have to make a move with either Castro or Freel. As for Ross, I'm thinking the same thing. He can't be as bad as he was last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTA513 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Heres my guess for the 25 man roster on opening day: [b]Everyday Players (8):[/b] 1B Joey Votto 2B Brandon Phillips SS Alex Gonzalez 3B Edwin Encarnacion LF Adam Dunn CF Norris Hopper (Bruce will likely start the season in AAA) RF Ken Griffey Jr. C David Ross [b]Bench (5):[/b] OF/IF Ryan Freel IF Juan Castro IF Jeff Keppinger 1B Scott Hatteberg C Javier Valentin [b]Rotation (5):[/b] SP Aaron Harang SP Bronson Arroyo SP Matt Belisle SP Edison Volquez SP Jeremy Affeldt (I wouldn't mind seeing Bailey, Cueto or possibly Maloney get a shot at this spot) [b]Bullpen (7):[/b] RP Francisco Cordero (Closer) RP David Weathers (7th/8th inning / spot closer) RP Jared Burton (7th/8th inning) RP Gary Majewski (Hes part of "the trade" so the Reds will give him another chance) RP Jon Coutlangus (Lefty specialist) (Wouldn't be surprised if it was Stanton instead of Coutlangus) RP Josh Fogg (Long relief) RP Todd Coffey (The Reds will give him another chance) (Could be Roenicke if he has an impressive spring training) We could also see Sergio Valenzuela on the roster if the Reds want to try and keep him like they did with Burton and Hamilton last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Mine looks a LOT like Palmer4HOF's. Everyday Lineup (8): 1B Joey Votto 2B Brandon Phillips SS Alex Gonzalez 3B Edwin Encarnacion LF Adam Dunn CF Jay Bruce RF Ken Griffey Jr. C David Ross Bench (6): OF Norris Hopper OF/IF Ryan Freel IF Juan Castro IF Jeff Keppinger 1B Scott Hatteberg C Javier Valentin Rotation (5): SP Aaron Harang SP Bronson Arroyo SP Matt Belisle SP Homer Bailey SP Edison Volquez Bullpen (6): RP Francisco Cordero RP David Weathers RP Jared Burton RP Gary Majewski RP John Coutlangus RP Jeremy Affeldt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 So far, the responses have all of these guys in common (19 total players): Joey Votto Brandon Phillips Alex Gonzalez Edwin Encarnacion Adam Dunn Ken Griffey Jr. David Ross Jeff Keppinger Norris Hopper Javier Valentin Scott Hatteberg Aaron Harang Bronson Arroyo Matt Belisle Francisco Cordero David Weathers Jared Burton Gary Majewski Jeremy Affeldt Here's the rest of the guys who we don't agree on: Ryan Freel Jay Bruce Juan Castro Homer Bailey Edison Volquez Josh Fogg John Coutlangus Todd Coffey Bill Bray Mike Stanton Josh Roenicke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#22 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 That team wins 90 games in the central. Mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would like to see 2 of the young pitchers make the opening day roster I just dont see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmer4HOF Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 [quote name='CJandRudiJ' post='635265' date='Feb 24 2008, 03:34 PM']I would like to see 2 of the young pitchers make the opening day roster I just dont see it happening.[/quote] Volquez will be on the team ... and I wouldn't be shocked seeing Cueto in the pen. Regardless, Volquez will be on this team opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 If bailey volquez and cueto made the opening day roster I would be estatic. My ideal roster, dont think it will happen, but ideally for me would be... 1st-Votto 2nd-Phillips SS-Gonzalez 3rd-Edwin RF-Griffey CF-Bruce LF-Dunn Bench (5) Keppinger Hopper Freel Hatteberg Valentin SP Harang Arroyo Fogg or Belisle (affledt can go to the pen, i dont know if either of these other guys can) Bailey Volquez RP (7) Affeldt Cordero Weathers Bray Majewski Burton Coffey or Coutlangus whoever wins the job Cut Stanton and whoever loses the job between belisle and fogg, or trade them. Also cut castro we dont need both him and gonzalez. Let Cueto get some starts in at AAA and be the first guy to come in if one of the starters sucks or gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I think Hatteburg will start the season at 1st, then share it with Votto, as Votto gains experience. I think Bruce will be in triple A for a month or so depending on how he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 [quote name='turningpoint' post='635493' date='Feb 25 2008, 10:56 AM']I think Hatteburg will start the season at 1st, then share it with Votto, as Votto gains experience. I think Bruce will be in triple A for a month or so depending on how he plays.[/quote] Both of those decisions would be terrible decisions, they need to play sometime why not start the year with them and give them some confidence coming out of camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Tory Go! Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 [quote name='turningpoint' post='635493' date='Feb 25 2008, 10:56 AM']I think Hatteburg will start the season at 1st, then share it with Votto, as Votto gains experience. I think Bruce will be in triple A for a month or so depending on how he plays.[/quote] I don't think Bruce will be handed the job straight away. Votto, on the other hand, already went through the sharing phase last year, and performed very well. The job should be his, and if Baker uses Mr. Hatt more than sporadically, he's a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 [quote name='Go Tory Go!' post='635629' date='Feb 25 2008, 03:12 PM']I don't think Bruce will be handed the job straight away. Votto, on the other hand, already went through the sharing phase last year, and performed very well. The job should be his, and if Baker uses Mr. Hatt more than sporadically, he's a fool.[/quote] The way things look right now, Bruce is going to have to have a Josh Hamilton-esque spring to make the big league club. Freel and Hopper are a logical platoon in CF unless Bruce just blows them away. Bruce will get a chance at some point, but I just get the feeling that the club wants him to start the year in Louisville. You're dead right about Votto. The job is his to lose and I'll be surprised if Hatteberg plays unless Votto really struggles. I see the competition for left-handed pitchers in the bullpen as being the toughest in camp. I still see Affeldt being one of those guys. Fogg's signing pretty much ended any chance he had to make the rotation, IMO. Mike Stanton, Bill Bray, John Coutlangus, Kent Mercker, and Scott Sauerbeck are competing for one or two spots. Stanton was terrible last year, Bray is hurt again, and Mercker is still coming off elbow surgery. That gives Coutlangus and Sauerbeck (career 3.82 ERA) a better chance. Stanton might have a good chance just because he is healthy. Not as much competition for the right-handers. Three spots are locked up by Cordero, Weathers, and Burton. Majewski, Roenicke, and Coffey are battling for probably two spots. Volquez might also go to the pen if he doesn't make the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Uhh you guys forgot catcher btw, whose starting at catcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Majewski just gave up 6 runs today, another good start for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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