March 24, 200521 yr comment_66694 i gotta write a paper tonight and decided to write on this topic and then i thought "hmmm i don't think anyone brought this up on go-bengals.com" i looked back and couldn't find any but if it has happened before then delete this, just wonderin what people think and why Report
March 24, 200521 yr comment_66706 i think they should because for how hard they work in practice and games they should deserve credit!They also work hard in school and like i said deserve credit.Thats what i think about this topic Report
March 24, 200521 yr Author comment_66711 [quote name='CJ4MVP85' date='Mar 23 2005, 10:21 PM']i think they should because for how hard they work in practice and games they should deserve credit!They also work hard in school and like i said deserve credit.Thats what i think about this topic [right][post="66706"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] i dont think they should but i can see the argument for why they should, some of them get free school that should pay for them Report
March 24, 200521 yr Author comment_66712 some of them have poor families and need the money, and i'll even say that its hard to study practice and work at the same time, and also it might lower the use of boosters in college but i still don't think they should get paid they are in college to learn, some of them go there just to play sports but the reason their there is to learn Report
March 24, 200521 yr comment_66748 It's not about how hard they work in school, no one gives a shit about that because everyone works hard. The reason they should get paid is because it isn't fair for these universities to get rich off the kids, and in turn charge even more for non athletes to go to their school. Report
March 24, 200521 yr comment_66764 [b]Several things..... I think Division I-A athletes who participate in Mens Football and Basketball should be paid..... Those sports generate Positive cash flow for the University even after you deduct their tuition.... Should a small division 3 football player be paid hell no..... he doesn't generate shit Also there are some womens B-ball teams (Uconn, Tennesses, that probably turn a profit they should be paid as well etc)[/b] Report
March 24, 200521 yr comment_66765 [b][color="blue"]College football is a sweet deal for the NFL it is a minor league that they don't have to fund ..... [/color][/b] Report
March 24, 200521 yr comment_66766 AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are NUTS! They ALREADY ARE PAID!!!!!! What, having a free ride in terms of tuitition, food, room and board, not to mention the adulation of thousands of U of Wherever groupies isn't enough for a 20-year-old to be appreciative of? Aren't acedemic scholarship students grateful for their scholarship? Don't universities exist for a reason besides sports, and aren't many universities making MORE money off of their science/medical/liberal arts/law students than they are as a whole from their football program? If universities exlpoit certain areas of their "curriculum" over others...SO WHAT?!!??!!?? Harvard doesn't produce any pro atheletes (generally speaking), yet the University succeedsfinancially on the basis of the successes of their alumni, and the prestige of their (well-deserved) reputation as a top-notch law school. Yet the lawyers-to-be aren't paid.... Neither are the doctors-to-be.... The issue at hand stems from a general lack of intelligence and an angry sense of self-entitlement that goes with big-program sports on the part of the players. Bad collegiate athletes are farmed by the instant gratification system, and the culture they live in is all about providing them with what they want, when they want it...provided the alums and boosters are happy with your performance on the field, that is... I see no reason for any person with a scholarship to any university for whatever accomplishment, whether it be academic or athletic, to be paid, because they already are. Scholarships should be drawn up as meaningful contracts, IMHO, that you must honor or repay if you forfeit your end off the deal.... Report
March 24, 200521 yr comment_66770 [b]I could also see a system where big sports programs, NCAA tourney teams, BCS schools take the $$$ they earn... and then deduct for books, trip expenses, eqipment, coaches, stadium fees, etc..... and then take that total and divide 25 % of it amongst the primary starters or contributors and take another 10 % and divide that amongst all the players on that team, bench warmers etc[/b] Report
March 24, 200521 yr comment_66777 I don't care how much money a university makes off of you because you're a Carson Palmer at USC or whatever.... The fact is that it is a school, and at least a pretense of actively seeking an education must be maintained by atheletes... The only exception that I can see is if it is clear that your skills as an athelete are so sick that you know you'll get the $$$$ signing bonus, then go for it...the majority of collegiate atheletes aren't going pro...and for the ones that think they will but need a reality check, it's called the "backup plan of having a degree in SOMETHING!" And even then, if you leave college early to cash in, you should have to donate some money or something to the school that helped make you who you are... I hate this topic. I want a perfect world where there are no LeBrons and everyone goes to college and entertains me...dammit... Report
March 24, 200521 yr Author comment_66850 [quote name='Bunghole' date='Mar 24 2005, 12:55 AM']I don't care how much money a university makes off of you because you're a Carson Palmer at USC or whatever.... The fact is that it is a school, and at least a pretense of actively seeking an education must be maintained by atheletes... The only exception that I can see is if it is clear that your skills as an athelete are so sick that you know you'll get the $$$$ signing bonus, then go for it...the majority of collegiate atheletes aren't going pro...and for the ones that think they will but need a reality check, it's called the "backup plan of having a degree in SOMETHING!" And even then, if you leave college early to cash in, you should have to donate some money or something to the school that helped make you who you are... I hate this topic. I want a perfect world where there are no LeBrons and everyone goes to college and entertains me...dammit... [right][post="66777"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] i totally agree wit u bung, they don't pay highschoolers and college is just extra education if u don't want to learn then don't go to college wait three years and tryout for a football team, or enter the draft if you want to go to the nba college is made for education not sports Report
March 26, 200521 yr comment_67558 I'd say give athletes a small stipend in addition to the free ride. They could keep it as long as they remain in academic good-standing. Lots of academic scholarship people get paid internships, or part-time jobs that give them a little cash. Take away the special housing, and other gimmes that tend to segregate them from the rest of the college community. Report
March 26, 200521 yr comment_67565 They are getting paid. [color="red"][b]THEY ARE GETTING A FREE RIDE IN COLLEGE!![/b][/color] I would have said a free education, but so many of them are not getting educated. Report
March 26, 200521 yr comment_67580 [quote name='Bunghole' date='Mar 24 2005, 01:43 AM']AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are NUTS! They ALREADY ARE PAID!!!!!! What, having a free ride in terms of tuitition, food, room and board, not to mention the adulation of thousands of U of Wherever groupies isn't enough for a 20-year-old to be appreciative of? Aren't acedemic scholarship students grateful for their scholarship? Don't universities exist for a reason besides sports, and aren't many universities making MORE money off of their science/medical/liberal arts/law students than they are as a whole from their football program? If universities exlpoit certain areas of their "curriculum" over others...SO WHAT?!!??!!?? Harvard doesn't produce any pro atheletes (generally speaking), yet the University succeedsfinancially on the basis of the successes of their alumni, and the prestige of their (well-deserved) reputation as a top-notch law school. Yet the lawyers-to-be aren't paid.... Neither are the doctors-to-be.... The issue at hand stems from a general lack of intelligence and an angry sense of self-entitlement that goes with big-program sports on the part of the players. Bad collegiate athletes are farmed by the instant gratification system, and the culture they live in is all about providing them with what they want, when they want it...provided the alums and boosters are happy with your performance on the field, that is... I see no reason for any person with a scholarship to any university for whatever accomplishment, whether it be academic or athletic, to be paid, because they already are. Scholarships should be drawn up as meaningful contracts, IMHO, that you must honor or repay if you forfeit your end off the deal.... [right][post="66766"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] Good post. Report
March 29, 200521 yr Author comment_68996 do you guys think that if they got paid booster usage would go down? they wouldn't need to be supported by boosters Report
March 29, 200521 yr comment_69034 As a university grad who got "paid" in terms of a free ride to play volleyball and basketball, I will say I don't think they should get paid. There are plenty of scholarships as it is for these athletes to cover many of their expenses. As it is, many of the players waste some other money they get instead of paying off the books and things they should. There are also plenty of extra loans etc that most people will qualify for. University should be about education. Lots of money is already wasted on athletes that are just there to play and don't know how to add. I think extra stipends, etc could be created for special cases, exceptional students, etc, but to be paid....no There are reasons the NCAA doesn't even want students on scholarships to be allowed to make ANY money off endorsements etc. These are AMATEUR sports. Report
March 30, 200521 yr comment_69168 Hell no............ unless I end up playin college football. Then, of course! Report
March 30, 200521 yr comment_69384 I vote yes. They are paid from scholarships, but there not allowed to work for spending money. Every other person on scholarship can work. Let their participation in sports be their job. It would lessen corruption from boosters slipping Benjamin Franklins. Report
March 30, 200521 yr comment_69390 I agree with the "scholarship=getting paid" argument. But I think that they should be able to endorse products and businesses as a part time job. Though, I'm sure that this could get out of hand. If Huggins can plug every product and business under the sun, shouldn't his players? There would have to be restrictions and it can't interfere with their scholarship obligations. Just a thought. Report
March 30, 200521 yr comment_69393 [b]In my situation would most get paid: Hell no most college athletes don't produce Money, But I don;t see how you can not justify a stipend for the matt Leinarts of the world who fill stadiums and generate Millions of dollars through BCS advertisement etc for their school.....[/b] Report
March 30, 200521 yr comment_69395 [b]Maybe College football games should be free then if we don't want to pay the athletes... if we are watching amateurs why are people paying 2,000 for a skybox..... Oh yeah I forgot the president of the athletic department needs a new mercedes [/b] Report
March 30, 200521 yr comment_69587 [quote name='sean' date='Mar 30 2005, 07:29 AM']I vote yes. They are paid from scholarships, but there not allowed to work for spending money. Every other person on scholarship can work. Let their participation in sports be their job. It would lessen corruption from boosters slipping Benjamin Franklins. [right][post="69384"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] I know teammates I had did have regular jobs as well to get other money. I'm not sure how that worked. You guys are looking at mostly the big name sports. Money that football brings in doesn't just go to football. A lot of that goes to the sports departments as a whole. Yes, football gets a lot of it, but not all. And players are well taken care of in most instances. They don't see paychecks, but they see MANY perks that regular students don't and they don't have to spend money on things they otherwise would. In order to preserve the AMATUER sports system, players cannot start receiving endorsement deals or other such things. I'm all for finding ways to help some athletes who don't get it all paid to supplement them, but paying these athletes is a can of worms than could not be controlled or made fair to all university athletes. Report
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