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[u][size=5]9 DT Sedrick Ellis 6'1" 309 USC[/size][/u]

[url="http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/usc-pro-day-sedrick-ellis/7784209/"]http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/usc-pro-day-...-ellis/7784209/[/url]

Ryan Clady and Brandon Albert move into top ten forcing a decision between Sedrick Ellis and Darren McFadden. Bengal’s invest wisely in Ellis to become the disruptive force they need and provide the versatility to utilize hybrid sets as he has the speed to move outside.

[u][size=5]46 DE/OLB Cliff Avril 6'3" 253 Purdue[/size][/u]

This pick has Fitzgerald written all over it!!!! Great against the run and possesses great speed and intelligence to cover the TE. Wonderful presence and great leader, also provides the versatility for more utilization of the hybrid sets.

[u][size=5]77 WR Jerome Simpson 6'2" 199 Coastal Carolina[/size][/u]

[url="http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys-tv/profile---jerome-simpson---wr"]http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys...me-simpson---wr[/url]

Huge leaping ability coupled with enormous hands, wingspan and speed. Goodbye Chris Henry, welcome Mr. Simpson.

[u][size=5]97 OG Mike McGlynn 6'4" 311 Pittsburgh[/size][/u]

[url="http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mike-mcglynn/18775389"]http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mike-mcglynn/18775389[/url]

Most versatile lineman in the draft with the ability to play any position. He is the ultimate insurance policy for an injury and should become a starter at Guard or center in the near future.

[u][size=5]112 RB Thomas Brown 5'9" 204 Georgia[/size][/u]

[url="http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys-tv/profile---thomas-brown---rb"]http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys...omas-brown---rb[/url]

Looks small on paper, plays like a bulldozer on film. Extremely quick and shifty, and has enormous power. Good hands and is a match up nightmare; he is too fast for the Linebacker’s and Safeties and too strong for the Cornerback’s. Hidden behind a big O-Line, D-Linemen won’t see him till it’s too late. Has potential for Punt return duties.


[u][size=5]147 CB Trae Williams 5'9" 193 South Florida[/size][/u]
Stuck in the shadows of Mike Jenkins, this guy has potential to be a great nickel corner. He will be the answer to Deltha’s departure after 2008.


[u][size=5]177 WR Anthony Alridge 5'9" 170 Houston[/size][/u]

[url="http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys-tv/profile---anthony-alridge---rb"]http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys...ny-alridge---rb[/url]

Return specialist.

[u][size=5]207 DE Brian Johnston 6'5" 276 Gardner-Webb[/size][/u]

Non-stop motor with tremendous speed for size. Why does this guy remind me of Bustin Smith.

[u][size=5]244 DT Jason Shirley 6'5" 329 Fresno St[/size][/u]

[url="http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys-tv/profile---jason-shirley---dl"]http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys...on-shirley---dl[/url]

Do we ever learn our lesson?

[u][size=5]246 S Corey Lynch 6'0" 202 Appalachian St[/size][/u]

[url="http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys-tv/profile---corey-lynch---s"]http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/draftguys...corey-lynch---s[/url]

SPECIAL TEAMS, SPECIAL TEAMS, SPECIAL TEAMS!!!!!! IT’S 1/3 OF THE GAME.
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I dig it.

Just passing along info on your 2nd round pick. I don't know this guy from Adam, but he was a former scout and he's down on Avril.

[url="http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=399677"]Link[/url]
[quote]Busts

Cliff Avril, OLB, Purdue. After a so-so senior season and a bad week at the Senior Bowl, Avril worked out like a champion at the Combine, inspiring comparisons to former Purdue stars Anthony Spencer and Shaun Phillips. Now, it seems, Avril is headed toward selection in the second or possibly even the first round. That would be a mistake -- Spencer or Phillips he is not. Among other shortcomings, Avril does not use his hands effectively as a pass rusher and has footwork problems.[/quote]
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[quote name='BurnsBengal' post='652070' date='Apr 14 2008, 03:18 PM']I dig it.

Just passing along info on your 2nd round pick. [b]I don't know this guy from Adam[/b], but he was a former scout and he's down on Avril.

[url="http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=399677"]Link[/url][/quote]


...then let's get Adam. ;)



BTW, your avatar made me lol.

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[quote name='ThurmanMunster' post='652067' date='Apr 14 2008, 02:12 PM']46 DE/OLB Cliff Avril 6'3" 253 Purdue

he is a BEAST.

though this is NOT the best possible draft because the best possible would have the bengals getting Forte at RB.[/quote]


I'll will concede and give you Forte, if I get OLB Marcus Howard at #112

[u][size=5]46 RB 8 Matt Forte 6'2" 217 Tulane[/size][/u]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bbaIF22NGQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bbaIF22NGQ[/url]

This kid has it all and can really do it all. Rudi's replacement after/during 2008.



[u][size=5]112 LB 16 Marcus Howard 6'1" 237 Georgia[/size][/u]


[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qr6o3xBmNw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qr6o3xBmNw[/url]

This dude is sick coming from the outside, with a 4.4 forty time offensive tackles don't have a shot!!!!
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[quote name='BurnsBengal' post='652070' date='Apr 14 2008, 02:18 PM']I dig it.

Just passing along info on your 2nd round pick. I don't know this guy from Adam, but he was a former scout and he's down on Avril.

[url="http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=399677"]Link[/url][/quote]
avril played DE at purdue once and pass rushed very well. that guy is a DIPSHIT.
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Drew Boylhart March 2008

[u][size=4]Cliff Avril LB Purdue[/size] [/u]

[size=3]STRENGTHS[/size]

Cliff is a hell of an athlete who has been playing out of position for his team because he is an excellent pass rusher. This kid, for the next level, is a natural OLB in a 3-4 defense with the ability to play on the strong side. He can cover a TE and does an excellent job defending against the run. I also believe that Cliff could play any one of the LB positions in a 3-4 defense or a 4-3 defense, but his impact would be as a pass rushing LB with the ability to be used in coverage. That means bringing him to an inside LB position would limit his impact. Cliff shows excellent leadership qualities and because he is so smart and instinctive, there is no doubt in my mind about his work ethic. Cliff Avril has the potential to be a Pro Bowl strong side LB in a 3-4 defense for the team that drafts him.

[size=3]NEEDS TO IMPROVE[/size]

Cliff just needs to be drafted by the right team in the right defense and he will impact immediately. I suspect that he might need some time to impact in a defense or position that he has not played up until now, but give him some time and he will produce.

[size=3]TALENT BOARD ROUND 1[/size]

Teams that run a 3-4 defense must be drooling just thinking about this kid. He is smart and will learn the OLB position real fast. Just put him on the field and let him go. This is the type of kid you can build your defense around because of his athleticism and leadership skills. Most people are not going to rate Cliff as high as I do because all they see is a undersized kid that will have to learn a new position. That's because they do not watch game film like I do. They watch the coach's film and evaluate how well Cliff is doing as a DE and then they try to suggest that he could be a good OLB in a couple of years. However, that is the problem when all you watch is the coach's film. In the coach's film you don't see the interaction of this kid with other players. You don't see how smart he is. You don't see his leadership skills. The only way you find out if the kid has leadership skills is when you ask a coach or a teammate. When a coach says "he is one of our leaders", that means nothing to me. I want to see it on the field and then I want to see how the players react to him. Cliff is a leader and his teammates react to what he says to them on the field. They may hate him off the field for all I know, but on the field, they respect this kid. That's why I'm giving him such a high talent grade. I'm not worried about his LTI being longer than normal because he may have to change positions. His natural athleticism, intelligence and leadership skills are what make this kid 1st round talent. I'm not sure when he will be drafted, but I know the team that drafts him is drafting a hell of a player. I would think that Cliff would be a perfect fit for the New England Patriots and any other team that runs a 3-4 defense.
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[quote name='Draftman' post='652096' date='Apr 14 2008, 03:40 PM']Drew Boylhart March 2008

[u][size=4]Cliff Avril LB Purdue[/size] [/u]

[size=3]STRENGTHS[/size]

Cliff is a hell of an athlete who has been playing out of position for his team because he is an excellent pass rusher. This kid, for the next level, is a natural OLB in a 3-4 defense with the ability to play on the strong side. He can cover a TE and does an excellent job defending against the run. I also believe that Cliff could play any one of the LB positions in a 3-4 defense or a 4-3 defense, but his impact would be as a pass rushing LB with the ability to be used in coverage. That means bringing him to an inside LB position would limit his impact. Cliff shows excellent leadership qualities and because he is so smart and instinctive, there is no doubt in my mind about his work ethic. Cliff Avril has the potential to be a Pro Bowl strong side LB in a 3-4 defense for the team that drafts him.

[size=3]NEEDS TO IMPROVE[/size]

Cliff just needs to be drafted by the right team in the right defense and he will impact immediately. I suspect that he might need some time to impact in a defense or position that he has not played up until now, but give him some time and he will produce.

[size=3]TALENT BOARD ROUND 1[/size]

Teams that run a 3-4 defense must be drooling just thinking about this kid. He is smart and will learn the OLB position real fast. Just put him on the field and let him go. This is the type of kid you can build your defense around because of his athleticism and leadership skills. Most people are not going to rate Cliff as high as I do because all they see is a undersized kid that will have to learn a new position. That's because they do not watch game film like I do. They watch the coach's film and evaluate how well Cliff is doing as a DE and then they try to suggest that he could be a good OLB in a couple of years. However, that is the problem when all you watch is the coach's film. In the coach's film you don't see the interaction of this kid with other players. You don't see how smart he is. You don't see his leadership skills. The only way you find out if the kid has leadership skills is when you ask a coach or a teammate. When a coach says "he is one of our leaders", that means nothing to me. I want to see it on the field and then I want to see how the players react to him. Cliff is a leader and his teammates react to what he says to them on the field. They may hate him off the field for all I know, but on the field, they respect this kid. That's why I'm giving him such a high talent grade. I'm not worried about his LTI being longer than normal because he may have to change positions. His natural athleticism, intelligence and leadership skills are what make this kid 1st round talent. I'm not sure when he will be drafted, but I know the team that drafts him is drafting a hell of a player. I would think that Cliff would be a perfect fit for the New England Patriots and any other team that runs a 3-4 defense.[/quote]

Good to read that...I like Boylhart and used to subscribe to thehuddle.

So let's get him now...
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[quote name='BurnsBengal' post='652097' date='Apr 14 2008, 04:42 PM']Good to read that...I like Boylhart and used to subscribe to thehuddle.

So let's get him now...[/quote]

He is amazing, he actually reviews game film on guys, unlike most of the supposed Draftniks!!!!!!! His insight is wonderful.

[url="http://www.thehuddlereport.com"]http://www.thehuddlereport.com[/url]
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[quote name='Draftman' post='652098' date='Apr 14 2008, 04:56 PM']He is amazing, he actually reviews game film on guys, unlike most of the supposed Draftniks!!!!!!! His insight is wonderful.

[url="http://www.thehuddlereport.com"]http://www.thehuddlereport.com[/url][/quote]

He put together what may be the worst mock I have ever seen in the history of mock drafts.

[url="http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTENT/freemockdraft.shtml"]http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTEN...mockdraft.shtml[/url]
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[quote name='happyrid' post='652112' date='Apr 14 2008, 04:55 PM']He put together what may be the worst mock I have ever seen in the history of mock drafts.

[url="http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTENT/freemockdraft.shtml"]http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTEN...mockdraft.shtml[/url][/quote]

That mock is based completely off of his projected talent for the entire draft, he is not that big of an idiot!!!!!
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[quote name='scharm' post='652135' date='Apr 14 2008, 07:15 PM']Great Blue North had them trading up to 7 with the Pats using pick 77.

Getting - Ellis at 7, Xavier Abidi LB at 46, and Adarius Bowman WR at 97.

I like it, I just don't know why you trade up if Ellis makes it to 7.[/quote]
I'm sure they don't want the ravens to fuck them by trading down two spots to NO and letting them have Ellis.
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[quote name='happyrid' post='652112' date='Apr 14 2008, 05:55 PM']He put together what may be the worst mock I have ever seen in the history of mock drafts.

[url="http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTEN...mockdraft.shtml"]http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTEN...mockdraft.shtml

://http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE...ckdraft.shtml

://http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE...ckdraft.shtml

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I'm not sure that I'm seeing anything that makes this worse than any other - other than it ignores the rankings of the drafts sites - that are usually wrong anyways.

Anyways...I don't care so much that I have to support the guy, but it seems to me there was an article in the draft section that compares prognosticators and that site scored pretty well.

Who knows...Maybe we will see some of those 'shocker picks' come through?

BZ
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[quote name='happyrid' post='652112' date='Apr 14 2008, 04:55 PM']He put together what may be the worst mock I have ever seen in the history of mock drafts.

[url="http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTENT/freemockdraft.shtml"]http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTEN...mockdraft.shtml[/url][/quote]
Yeah that's by far the worst I have ever seen.
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