Jeb Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote]First, the Vikings' side of the blockbuster deal. The acquisition of Allen clearly represents a risk. But there is some confusion about how much of a gamble it was for Minnesota to give up three high draft picks for him, making him the league's most highly paid defensive player in the process, courtesy of a six-year, $74 million deal that includes $31 million guaranteed. The obvious question mark in regards to Allen, 26, are his two DUI convictions while in Kansas City, the second of which resulted in a four-game league suspension in 2007, which was subsequently reduced to two games by commissioner Roger Goodell. Much of the debate regarding the wisdom of Minnesota paying so high a price for Allen is sure to center on the question of whether he's only one more mistake away from incurring a mandatory year-long league suspension under the terms of the league's substance abuse policy? [b]One league source told SI.com on Wednesday that Allen's two strikes in the program get wiped off the books if he stays incident free through September[/b], at which time his most recent DUI will be two years old. He would then be out from under the threat of a year-long league suspension if he incurred another DUI after September, the source said. But that scenario could not be confirmed by an NFL spokesman Wednesday, leaving it uncertain whether Allen is a high risk for a career-interrupting suspension. Perhaps it will turn out that the Vikings are not taking quite the gamble on Allen that some might assume. Minnesota is said to be convinced the signs of maturity that Allen started showing in Kansas City in the past year-plus have taken root and he has become someone worth betting on. To that end, Minnesota did nothing out of the ordinary to protect itself in his new precedent-setting contract. There are only the standard clauses within the deal that would allow the team to recoup some of the money if Allen incurs a significant suspension or violates his contract in some way, but no extraordinary steps were taken to safeguard the organization.[/quote] [url="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/04/23/snaps/index.html?eref=si_nfl"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...tml?eref=si_nfl[/url] There is nowhere I know of in the Drug Policy Program or the CBA that allows for previous incidents to get "wiped off" of the books. Is anyone else aware of this policy of forgiveness and does it apply to Bengals too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Its not confirmed .....and yes Id say they would determine him to be high risk at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorclaws Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 It's in there, as long as you don't get too deep into the program you can have the priors wiped out. It's a non-issue to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote name='gatorclaws' post='656096' date='Apr 23 2008, 10:44 PM']It's in there, as long as you don't get too deep into the program you can have the priors wiped out. It's a non-issue to me.[/quote] ...yeah, ...but 2 DUI's isn't too deep? Odell only has 1 DUI. (and I wasn't aware of that policy btw but thanks for the heads up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote name='Jeb' post='656100' date='Apr 23 2008, 11:47 PM']...yeah, ...but 2 DUI's isn't too deep? Odell only has 1 DUI. (and I wasn't aware of that policy btw but thanks for the heads up)[/quote] missed drug tests count as a strike.. thus making odell already at strike 3... 2 missed and a DUI.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#22 Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [img]http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1209013020034.gif[/img] So this means that Thurman will have a clean record (as far as the NFL is concerned) at some point in the near future, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote name='#22' post='656121' date='Apr 24 2008, 01:04 AM'][img]http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1209013020034.gif[/img] So this means that Thurman will have a clean record (as far as the NFL is concerned) at some point in the near future, right?[/quote] i would assume suspended time doesnt much count.. likely a probationary period starting upon his return.... and its possible those missed tests count more seriously than the DUI... ironically.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 That "NFL source" doesn't sound right to me... I don't see that there's a statute of limitations, after which your prior record is expunged. As the article suggests, I think he's one step away from a 1-year suspension. Charlie Casserly on NFL Network openly questioned why the Chiefs would trade their best or second-best player in the prime of his career. Casserly was asserting that the Chiefs weren't willing to risk another slip by Allen which could result in a year-long suspension, and wanted to get guaranteed value for him now... in addition to the fact that the Chiefs and Allen were far apart on compensation, and teams will pay big money to guys that they feel they can depend on. To that point, based on past behavior, I'm betting that Allen has, or has recently had a serious problem with alcohol that suggests he can slip again. Same with Odell, which is why you've gotta wonder if you can count on him, too. Oh well, at least in Minnesota, Jared's close to Hazelden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scales Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 You can get the world for him + he might need a change + he's gonna be expensive to sign + you won 4 games with him = trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote name='#22' post='656121' date='Apr 23 2008, 11:04 PM'][img]http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1209013020034.gif[/img] So this means that Thurman will have a clean record (as far as the NFL is concerned) at some point in the near future, right?[/quote] No. Odell is in Stage 3 of the Substance Abuse Program for the rest of his career . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote](Rotoworld) Raiders CB Fabian Washington will not be prosecuted on domestic battery charges if he completes a 26-week intervention course. Impact: He also must stay out of trouble during that period. This is a nice plus for Oakland because it could help his trade value slightly on draft weekend.[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804241241"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804241241[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I believe that the NFL considers off field incidents entirely separately from its substance abuse program. Thus, the time limits when it comes to off field stuff. The guys who have tested positive in the substance abuse program are governed by completely different rules. For example, Chris Henry was suspended under the conduct policy and had different rules and procedures to get reinstated than Odell who was suspended under the substance abuse policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote](Rotoworld) Commissioner Roger Goodell is prepared to punish the Patriots again if Matt Walsh has a tape of the St. Louis' Rams pre-2002 Super Bowl walkthrough. Impact: "Taping a walkthrough is much different from what I punished them for," he said Thursday. Goodell admits he has no idea what information Walsh has, but says his "mind is open" on the matter. The two men will meet on May 13.[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804241502"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804241502[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote](KFFL) Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports Chicago Bears LB Lance Briggs is due before Cook County Judge Earl Hoffenberg Thursday, June 19, to explain why he has left the state without the court's permission. According to Michael Sneed, of the Chicago Sun-Times, Briggs was ordered to get permission to leave Illinois and according to the court he has not done so. This was following a crash last summer when he wrecked his Lamborghini and later admitted to leaving the scene of the accident. Hoffenberg also wants an update on Briggs' community service and how he plans to complete it. He has completed two hours with 118 remaining, which needs to be completed in the next five months.[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804241533"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804241533[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 [quote](Rotoworld) 49ers CB Donald Strickland was arrested earlier this month for fleeing police after they attempted to arrest him for being drunk in public. Impact: He was booked on April 13 for public intoxication and resisting arrest. Police say Strickland didn't make it long on the run; he fell down after getting about a half a block away. "That's when we took him into custody," police said.[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804241721"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804241721[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 [quote]Giants | Manningham's past doesn't concern team Ralph Vacchiano, of the New York Daily News, reports New York Giants third-round pick WR Mario Manningham doesn't feel that he is a risky pick. He insisted that neither he nor the Giants are concerned about his past problems and that he came clean with the Giants coaching staff when he visited with them. "Evidently they believe in me," Manningham said, "just like I believe in me."[/quote] [url="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=468395"]http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=468395[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 [quote]Saints | Convict says he sold steroids to Lehr Jason Trahan and Gary Jacobson, of The Dallas Morning News, report convicted steroids trafficker David Jacobs said he sold large amounts of illegal performance-enhancing drugs to New Orleans Saints OG Matt Lehr. Jacobs said Lehr used a hair-loss prevention drug as a masking agent for steroid use in 2006. 2008-04-27 15:04:31[/quote] [url="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=468517"]http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=468517[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 [quote]Ravens | Washington will not face prosecution David Ginsburg, of The Associated Press, reports Baltimore Ravens CB Fabian Washington will not be prosecuted for his arrest in February on a domestic battery charge as long as he completes a program for first-time offenders. 2008-04-27 15:04:45[/quote] [url="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=468521"]http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=468521[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 [quote](Rotoworld) Titans fourth-round LB Stanford Keglar is awaiting trial on unresolved charges stemming from a March 2007 bar brawl. Impact: He's accused of battery, false informing, and disorderly conduct. The incident ended in Keglar's Purdue teammate, Selwyn Lymon, being stabbed in the chest. Coach Jeff Fisher says the Titans were aware of it before the draft.[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804281307"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804281307[/url] [quote](KFFL) Jim Wyatt, of The Nashville Tennessean, reports Tennessee Titans LB Stanford Keglar was charged with battery, false informing and disorderly conduct after a fight outside of a nightclub last March. Keglar's agent, Jeff Chilcoat, said he expects the charges to be dismissed in the coming weeks. Chilcoat stated that despite his past legal troubles, Keglar is a quality guy and a tremendous human being. "This is not another Pacman," said Chilcoat. "This is a great kid, he really is. We fully anticipate (this) is going to be dismissed and (Keglar) will have no ramifications from it."[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804291252"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804291252[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 [quote](Rotoworld) Rams waived TE Dominique Byrd. Impact: A third-round pick out of USC in 2006, Byrd could not get on the field behind Joe Klopfenstein, Randy McMichael, and Aaron Walker. He was also arrested in 2006 for striking a man in the face with a broken bottle at a bar, DUI in 2007, and was deactivated for the Rams' finale last season for missing a meeting. It wouldn't be a surprise if Byrd doesn't find another chance.[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804290918"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804290918[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 [quote](Rotoworld) Cardinals seventh-round T Brandon Keith was arrested on three misdemeanor charges after an incident at a party last month. Impact: Kelly is charged with rioting, disorderly conduct, and interfering with officials. The 6'5/343-pound lineman had to be tasered when he allegedly charged police. Keith might have been a third-round pick had he avoided the incident.[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804291009"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804291009[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 [quote]Bills | Team will receive $78 million to play eight games in Toronto The Associated Press reports the Buffalo Bills will receive $78 million to play eight games in Toronto over the next five years, more than double their calculated 2006 operating income. The payment to the team was disclosed for the first time in Rogers Communications' 2008 first-quarter report released Tuesday, April 29. The $78 million figure was in Canadian currency.[/quote] [url="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=469703"]http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=469703[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 [quote]Chris Long-DL-Rams Apr. 30 - 10:40 am et According to Profootballtalk.com, "multiple league sources" claim the Rams' selection of DE Chris Long over DT Glenn Dorsey went against the will of the scouts and coaching staff. The decision to go with Long may have come at the behest of team president John Shaw as the result of connections with Long's father Howie, Long's agent, and Rams' front office chief Billy Devaney. If this story has legs, it would be another case in a long line of dysfunction in the Rams' front office Source: ProFootballTalk.com[/quote] [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx"]http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx[/url] ...nepotism, ...at its finest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Posted May 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 [quote](Rotoworld) Free agent DL Darrion Scott was arrested Wednesday for "probable cause felony assault" in Eden Prarie. Impact: This should put to an end any interest the Patriots may have had. A search warrant is out for Scott, who was cited for marijuana possession in December. He hasn't been a big name on the free agent market for obvious reasons.[/quote] [url="http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/view_news_article?L=10117&ID=200804301952"]http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2004/v...ID=200804301952[/url] [quote]NFL | D. Scott arrested on suspicion of domestic assault Tad Vezner, of the Pioneer Press, reports free-agent DE Darrion Scott (Vikings) was arrested Wednesday, April 30, on suspicion of domestic assault. Smith was booked on suspicion of assault, domestic assault and malicious punishment of a child. Police have released no further information, saying the case remains under investigation.[/quote] [url="http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=469972"]http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=469972[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bengal Migration| Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Can we get this thread out of the Bengals forum, since it has ZERO to do with the Bengals? edit: Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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