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[quote name='Bengals17' post='706252' date='Sep 28 2008, 04:29 PM']What makes you have a clue compared to the rest of us? Because you played high school football? or that you play madden? But hes proven himself time after time but its a what have you done for me lately world and lately hes gotten our team 1TD and 3INT and a passer rating of 63.8 and then sits out with a sore elbow coach imposed or not. Thats why hes being questioned by these supposed armchair GM's who dont have a clue.[/quote]
Do you enjoy looking ignorant?

You must... because there are some VERY easy clues as to what is going on this year.

We've played against 3 undefeated teams prior to this weekend. Teams with notoriously tough defenses who literally knocked the shit out of what ALL NFL experts consider one of the top 5 QB's in this league.

The top 5 QB who has NEVER missed a start, proven his toughness, and tried to rally this team by setting the example of what it is to have some class.

But NOOOOOOOO....

Bengals17 knows better than everyone what's going on and insists on attempting to question that top 5 QB.

Yep... you must enjoy your ignorance, because you seem to be revelling in it.
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[quote name='BurnsBengal' post='706257' date='Sep 28 2008, 04:32 PM']Yes. The trainers said he couldn't go. Its now out of his hands. He had no say.



How do you know that didn't pretty much happen? Where are you getting facts otherwise?



Ohhhh. Well that changes [i]everything[/i]. You saw a 3 second clip of him on TV. That settles it. Carson must have begged to not go in then. Thanks for clearing that up.

This is the crap that drives me crazy. You create your own little story in your head and then leap to huge assumptions. This is exactly why local sports talk-shows are unlistenable after the game. There's plenty of things to honestly crab about in the team's play. This isn't one of them. Move on.[/quote]
What story did i create in my head? nothing i said was false. Nothing is made up and if i was creating a scenario it was pretty obvious. You think if the franchise qb was in the coaches ear about going into the game during the game we would have seen it on tv? its not exactly the back up olinemen that was upset. show me some emotion or some fire that you want to be in there.
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='706234' date='Sep 28 2008, 03:59 PM']dude the rams are currently beating the bills, we might be the 2nd worst team in the nfl right now (i refuse to think were worse than the raiders)[/quote]

Well, Oakland is currently handing it to the Chargers. We may have just hit bottom of all power rankings. :)

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This team has no heart whatsofuckingever. I want to see the young guys playing. Sims, Shirley,
Caldwell, Simpson hell even throw the rookie OL Collins out there. Guycheck needs to be a fluffer
on a porn set cause he sure as hell sucks dick. Did you see him get pancaked on that 2 pt. conversion?
By a fucking LB? Jesus One good thing comes out of all this. If you want to go see a Bengals game
you can probably get 2 tix for about $30 from here on out.
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[quote name='Bengals17' post='706261' date='Sep 28 2008, 05:39 PM']What story did i create in my head? nothing i said was false. Nothing is made up and if i was creating a scenario it was pretty obvious. You think if the franchise qb was in the coaches ear about going into the game during the game we would have seen it on tv? its not exactly the back up olinemen that was upset. show me some emotion or some fire that you want to be in there.[/quote]

Pretty much everything. Everything you've said are based off of your faulty assumptions when the facts paint a completely different picture. Read this postgame interview. [url="http://www.thelotd.com/ctrent/blog/2008/09/28/bengals_postgame_928"]Link[/url] Does this sound like a QB who didn't really, really want to be in there? Sounded pretty pissed off to me....It was almost...wait for it....[i]as if the call to play was out of his hands! [/i]

I don't know what else you want him to do. Its out of his hands. Its not his call...he's a professional, he's not going to shiv the coach on the sideline.

Find something else to bitch about, there's plenty there. Move on.


[quote name='bubba' post='706259' date='Sep 28 2008, 05:38 PM']Why are we even talking about Carson ? If he could have played he would have. He didn't play we were at home against cleveland we still should be able to beat the browns with a backup . Perrys fumble killed us[/quote]

100% agree with this. The only reason I'm talking about it is fans like the esteemed fellow above are what drive me crazy. He cluttering this board with BS and clouding up the real problems this organization and team face.
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As I promised to be positive in the other thread I'll vent briefly here...

O-Line is completely hopeless. Our Centre is definitely the worst starting centre in the league.
D-Line has absolutely zero pressure. None. In fact we've got the only D-line in the league that vacuums the QB.
Yeah Fitz was sucktastic. Carson definitely would have been an upgrade even behind our shitty line. Although if the Browns had a slightly useful QB they'd have rolled us totally so it balanced out.
Someone get Chris Perry some stickum. Fumbilitus extremus.
Our coaching is woeful. Burning time-outs. Challenging shit that was obvious.
Zim is a massive MASSIVE upgrade and our D, line excluded, looks good. We sure as fuck need a new O-coord because 2 minute drill nearly always works, runrunpasspunt never does. Even with our shitty line you need to adjust.
Did I mention our line is shitty? Good :)

Ok I'm done

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[quote name='Bengals17' post='706250' date='Sep 28 2008, 05:22 PM']Ive never once said carson didnt want to be out there. Im saying that him not being in there because of sore elbow is bull shit. Are you going to tell me that if Palmer walked up to marvin and said "this isnt working I'm going in" you think Marvin is going to say "no fuck you get your ass back on that bench?" ok say marvin suddenly has nuts and does say that. then palmer should be in fucking marvins ear telling him he wants in. He was active so apparently it doesnt appear that serious. everytime i saw him though him and jordan just standing there plain looks on there faces.[/quote]

Carson was the emergency third so him entering the game means that the first two QBs can't return.

I think this injury is way, way worse than they are letting on. To not start the franchise QB in a "must-win" game (season is now over, as you all know) is just amazing.

-jd
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[quote name='BurnsBengal' post='706257' date='Sep 28 2008, 04:32 PM']Yes. The trainers said he couldn't go. Its now out of his hands. He had no say.



How do you know that didn't pretty much happen? Where are you getting facts otherwise?



Ohhhh. Well that changes [i]everything[/i]. You saw a 3 second clip of him on TV. That settles it. Carson must have begged to not go in then. Thanks for clearing that up.

This is the crap that drives me crazy. You create your own little story in your head and then leap to huge assumptions. This is exactly why local sports talk-shows are unlistenable after the game. There's plenty of things to honestly crab about in the team's play. This isn't one of them. Move on.[/quote]


Spot on.
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[quote name='doogles' post='706322' date='Sep 28 2008, 07:12 PM']Carson was the emergency third so him entering the game means that the first two QBs can't return.

I think this injury is way, way worse than they are letting on. To not start the franchise QB in a "must-win" game (season is now over, as you all know) is just amazing.

-jd[/quote]

We need to sign Culpepper this week
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When I heard Carson wasn`t playing, I knew we were going to lose.
Say what you want, but he would have made a difference.

And I read this entire game thread. 11 pages on the game.
And 5 pages of Bengals fans bashing the Bengals and other fans. :cripes:




[quote name='TigerJ@w' post='706146' date='Sep 28 2008, 02:11 PM']ok, so now, Big Ben fakes injuries, you have any proof? but Carson does not, right? Yea, getting hit by automobile is sure faking he was injured. what injuries does he fake? He is getting pounded like Carson but still is playing.[/quote]


Ben said he had broken toes after a playoff loss his rookie year.
Cowher said he was full of shit.

HE is always telling reporters how bad he is hurt. Just so he has
a built in excuse if he doesn`t play well. Or so they can talk about
how tough he is. He just told the NBC reporter last week about an injury,
and his coach denied it.
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