eva4ben-gal Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I was wondering about which of these players would have turned this game in our favor. A solid pass catching tight end that can hold onto the ball would definitely have had a huge impact. But I can't help but wonder if our struggles on third down wouldn't have been a bit less if Leonard is in there. He has a knack for finding the marker and he was sorely missed Sunday. Bernard is just in there to give three options, but why not give him a shot to provide some of those first downs? On defense, I thought the loss of Peko and Odom early was huge but the thing I noticed more and more over the course of the game was Ndukwe making tackles in the running game 9 yards downfield where Williams has been making them 3 yards downfield. I really think that had as much of an impact or more than losing Odom and Peko as to why the D could not get off the field. Also been wondering if Odom's injury puts us in the market for a guy like Kampman. I wouldn't mind throwing a couple draft picks out there for him. Offer the Packers a third and a fifth or less. He has almost no value to them but huge value to us so we should be able to get him cheap unless some other teams get in on the bidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Defensively Roy. He might have been able to blow up a screen or two. Offensively its hard to say that the TE spot didnt kill us. 2 driving ending fumbles both at very important times. TE was the difference in the 2 offenses this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mu Shu Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Offense - Brian Leonard: Such a big weapon on 3rd down. Him coming out of the backfield on 3rd down would have kept some drives going. Defense: Antwan Odom: Not only does he have the 8 sacks, but he blocked a kick, and in recent weeks had been just pushing LT's backwards into the QB. Schaub had all day to throw after Odom left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanMunster Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 DEFINITELY roy williams. crocker tried to play the physical game and it was laughable watching his PATHETIC excuse of an attempt at breaking up a screen. if jerry jones was our owner he probably would have released crocker before post game interviews thats how bad crocker was yesterday. ndukwe sucked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsNYC Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I said Peko but the way Odom was flowing early I probably should have gone w/ him. Awful news for him and this team. He really seemed to be settled in and was starting to really perform out there. MJ93 has been a real terror in his time. I'm not sure he can play 3 downs yet but Fanene and Rucker should be able to slide in and out. I just hope Rucker can stay healthy. Good things happen when he's out there. I'm too lazy to do it but I'm sure you could calculate the amount of turnovers that occur when Rucker is on the field vs when turnovers happen when he isn't - kinda like they do in basketball for others stats. I beat Rucker is on the + side. My head hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actium Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I'll go with the obvious answers. 1--Leonard--without him, we're not the same team on 3rd down. 2--Odom--without him, our pass rush appears to be anemic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think Peko was by far the biggest loss in that game.. Since sometime last season Peko has been steadily drawing double teams and still collapsing the pocket and tackling runners. I have been waiting for one of our DE's to step up and take advantage of the attention Peko had been drawing. He's also the only true nose tackle we have on the roster. Offensively Leonard was the bigger loss. His production on 3rd down, not only in moving the chains but protecting Carson has been huge. He fills the role of Kenny Watson, and better. I think the offense has come to rely on him quite a bit on 3rd downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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