Reds Deliver, Fans' Turn Now!

[JBandJoeyV]

standing room only for Saturday and Sunday, and Friday's game is supposed to have a solid crowd too...

No strasburg, hall of fame thing, or McHammer I believe...

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='CJandTO' date='29 July 2010 - 03:12 PM' timestamp='1280430751' post='900602']
standing room only for Saturday and Sunday, and Friday's game is supposed to have a solid crowd too...

No strasburg, hall of fame thing, or McHammer I believe...
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not sure. Saturday's game's on fox though.

[oldschooler]

[b][url="http://twitter.com/CincinnatiReds"][color="#0a0501"]CincinnatiReds[/color][/url][/b] [url=""] [/url] Today's attendance was 40,871 for another sellout, putting the series total at 122,855 for the largest 3-game weekend in GABP history.
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[JBandJoeyV]

[quote name='oldschooler' date='01 August 2010 - 04:36 PM' timestamp='1280694978' post='901610']
[b][url="http://twitter.com/CincinnatiReds"][color="#0a0501"]CincinnatiReds[/color][/url][/b] [url=""] [/url] Today's attendance was 40,871 for another sellout, putting the series total at 122,855 for the largest 3-game weekend in GABP history.
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Id be surprised if next weeks Cardinals series isnt one of if nto the biggest weekday series crowds in GABP history. Should be huge.

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='oldschooler' date='01 August 2010 - 04:36 PM' timestamp='1280694978' post='901610']
[b][url="http://twitter.com/CincinnatiReds"][color="#0a0501"]CincinnatiReds[/color][/url][/b] Today's attendance was 40,871 for another sellout, putting the series total at 122,855 for the largest 3-game weekend in GABP history.
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That's what being in contention at the beginning of August in a weekend series against another contender will do for you...

Really, its our weekday home night games that are hard to sell out, at least until the Reds prove that they are going to consistently be competitive. So far, so good.

[scharm]

[quote name='CJandTO' date='01 August 2010 - 04:41 PM' timestamp='1280695271' post='901615']
Id be surprised if next weeks Cardinals series isnt one of if nto the biggest weekday series crowds in GABP history. Should be huge.
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Just got two tickets. Couldn't get two together in the Bleachers and $5 tickets sold out. I wouldn't be surprised to see 3 sell outs.

[oldschooler]

[b][url="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/08/26/reds-back-home-with-3-attendance-jump/"][size="5"]Reds back home, with #3 attendance jump[/size][/url][size="5"] [/size][/b]
Posted by [email="tgroeschen@enquirer.com"]tgroeschen[/email] August 26th, 2010, 2:18 pm


The Reds are off today, and start a three-game home series with the Cubs on Friday night (7:10 p.m.).

With the Reds back from a strong (6-3) West Coast road trip, we crunched a few numbers entering the team's first home game since Aug. 15:

-The Reds are drawing 25,585 fans per home game, up from 23,602 per game at this point last year. (This point being 62 home games).

-The Reds' average gain of 1,983 fans per home game is the third-largest jump in baseball this year, according to Baseball-Reference.com. Only Minnesota (+10,468 per game in a new park) and Colorado (+2,547 per game) have made bigger gains in 2010.

-The Reds' last homestand — three games with St. Louis, three with Florida – drew an average of 33,924 fans per game. Those games were Aug. 9-11 and Aug. 13-15, respectively.


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[oldschooler]

[b][url="http://twitter.com/LanceMcAlister"][color="#0a0501"]LanceMcAlister[/color][/url][/b] [url=""] [/url] "honestly.....a very disappointing crowd tonight"--marty b
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[b][url="http://twitter.com/LanceMcAlister"][color="#0a0501"]LanceMcAlister[/color][/url][/b] [url=""] [/url] "for this team to be where it is..and to have this crowd...in a word..disappointing"
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[oldschooler]

[b][url="http://twitter.com/CBSSportsMLB"][color="#0a0501"]CBSSportsMLB[/color][/url][/b] [url=""] [/url] Sad sight in Cincinnati. First-place club, on a roll, yet tons of empty seats.
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[JBandJoeyV]

kids are starting school and shit today and tomorrow, kinda understandable...next two nights should be bigger youd hope.

[Bengals1181]

[quote]bradjohansen

Didn't they say "just win and they will come?" 14,589 at GABP smallest crowd since June 9th. Sad.#reds
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[scharm]

It looked empty. Apparently it was empty.

It's no secret, the Reds are a regional draw. They need strong off season ticket sales to produce decent attendance numbers.


Just for reference 1990 they drew 2.4mil (about 30K) and 2.1 mil(about 26K0 in 99. (Not using the strike and strike after math seasons). So this current Reds team has crawled on pace with 99.

Leading up to 1990 they were drawing consistently 1.9-2.1m fans. Recorded a winning record 4 out 5 seasons prior to 1990. So there was interest and when the 1990 reds really got into it they jumped up to 2.4mil.

So, then there's a strike. Then reds have 1 winning record in the next 4 years. Interest dropped. Reds get good in 99 and they are doing similar stuff as this season.

It takes time for people to plan time and money to go and it's difficult for the Reds to draw well if they don't have a strong off season of sales.

Back in 99 the team didn't have as good a year in 00, but jumped to 2.5 million fans. They created a buzz by winning and adding Junior.

The Reds were getting by with bad teams but a new ball park and finally the bottom dropped out last year drawing 1.7m fans.


Honestly I think the media needs to call the hounds off Reds fans. This team had a shitty boring offseason. Crappy April. Then has been a good 1st place team. In the end they get 2.0-2.1 fans up from 1.7. They'll do much better next season. Not to mention this area has almost 10% unemployment.

[JBandJoeyV]

hopefully bigger tomorrow with chapman potentially on the mound.

I know if I had the chance I'd like to say I was at the first game chapman pitched in his ml career.

[oldschooler]

Cincinnati Reds owner Bob Castellini heard it like whispers from a cornfield (or perhaps in his case from crates in a produce truck): “If you win it we will come.”

Well, the Reds are winning the National League Central, but where are the fans?

Cincinnati returns home a week from today, on Sept. 28, to finish out the regular season with a six-game stand. It remains to be seen just how many will be there to see it.

[b]The Reds rank 20th out of 30 major league teams in overall home attendance, averaging 25,379 spectators. Sure that’s a small spike from 21,579 in 2009, but just like the Reds’ play on the field shouldn’t attendance see a noticeable improvement, too?[/b]

Competition certainly comes from the Bengals and the NFL, and I’ll even throw in college and high school football as taking away from the crowd.

But what’s not to like about this team? There’s the chance to see Joey Votto in an MVP chase, the opportunity to see fireballer Aroldis Chapman and the ability for Reds’ fans — who have been waiting for a winner for some time — to say “I was there” during that championship season.

As for Castellini, what’s going to convince him to spend more money to stay ahead of the Cardinals — who rank fourth in attendance, by the way — or even keep pace in future seasons when the crowds just don’t justify it?

That might speak loudest of all.



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[JBandJoeyV]

[quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1285068731' post='921242']
Cincinnati Reds owner Bob Castellini heard it like whispers from a cornfield (or perhaps in his case from crates in a produce truck): “If you win it we will come.”

Well, the Reds are winning the National League Central, but where are the fans?

Cincinnati returns home a week from today, on Sept. 28, to finish out the regular season with a six-game stand. It remains to be seen just how many will be there to see it.

[b]The Reds rank 20th out of 30 major league teams in overall home attendance, averaging 25,379 spectators. Sure that’s a small spike from 21,579 in 2009, but just like the Reds’ play on the field shouldn’t attendance see a noticeable improvement, too?[/b]

Competition certainly comes from the Bengals and the NFL, and I’ll even throw in college and high school football as taking away from the crowd.

But what’s not to like about this team? There’s the chance to see Joey Votto in an MVP chase, the opportunity to see fireballer Aroldis Chapman and the ability for Reds’ fans — who have been waiting for a winner for some time — to say “I was there” during that championship season.

As for Castellini, what’s going to convince him to spend more money to stay ahead of the Cardinals — who rank fourth in attendance, by the way — or even keep pace in future seasons when the crowds just don’t justify it?

That might speak loudest of all.



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For Castellini while it must be disappointing that we arent have a lot better attendence for a team
thats going to make the playoffs, I think a big key for him will be how many season tickets we sell
for next year. I would think we would sell a lot more next year if we make the playoffs, especially
if we make a run in the playoffs. If we play well against next year you will see another jump, maybe
from like 25k per game to 30k per game, string winning seasons together and that will keep going up.

The problem is most casual fans probably didnt realize this teams potential till like June or July,
and all those games in April and May with poor attendence still go in to the average for the year.
Next year the fans should know early this team will have a lot of potential and will show up to games
in April and May instead of waiting to see if they will be good or not.

The key in my opinion is putting winning seasons together, then that number just keeps going up and up.

[scharm]

I think they'll see a nice jump next year. There was 0 buzz about the Reds during the offseason. They had an uninspiring April.

To get to 25K avgr after that is significant, IMO. Coming into next year people will pre buy more tickets and make plans to go to more games.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the avrg jump to 29-30K

[oldschooler]

[b][size="5"]Some playoff contenders have empty seats[/size][/b]

By JOE KAY, AP Baseball Writer– 50 mins ago


CINCINNATI – When the Reds called up crowd-pleasing reliever Aroldis Chapman at the end of August, players hoped his 103 mph fastball would finally fill the seats at [url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bbo_drawing_a_crowd#"][color="#366388"]Great American Ball Park[/color][/url].

"We were talking about it a little bit in the bullpen," Cincinnati reliever Sam LeCure said. "We were saying, 'I hope when Aroldis comes, they can get more people in the seats.'"

Not even his blink-of-an-eye pitch could pack 'em in.

The Reds are on the brink of securing their first [url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bbo_drawing_a_crowd#"][color="#366388"]playoff appearance[/color][/url] in 15 years, but they're having trouble drawing much of a crowd to see it happen. Attendance is up roughly 4,000 per game at Great American, but the Reds still rank near the bottom of the National League.

They're not alone, either. Atlanta, San Diego and [url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bbo_drawing_a_crowd#"][color="#366388"]Tampa Bay[/color][/url] are struggling at the gate while they fight for a spot in the postseason.

Heading into games on Thursday, all four were in position to make the playoffs as either division champions or wild-card teams. None of the four ranked higher than ninth in attendance in their leagues, according to STATS LLC.

_San Diego is on track for its first playoff appearance in four years, but ranks 11th in attendance at 26,038 per game. Last year, the Padres drew 23,735 per game.

_The Reds rank 12th at 25,379 per game, an increase from 21,579 last year but still a disappointment. They sold only 12,061 tickets — their smallest crowd of the season — when they clinched their first winning season in 10 years on Sept. 13.

_The Rays have been going back-and-forth with the Yankees in the AL East all season, but their attendance has gone backward. Tampa Bay is selling 23,081 tickets per game, a decrease from 23,147 last year. That ranks ninth in the AL.

_Atlanta was second in the [url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bbo_drawing_a_crowd#"][color="#366388"]NL East[/color][/url] and led the wild-card race by a half-game over San Francisco. In Bobby Cox's final season as manager, the Braves have experienced a slight rise in ticket sales. They're averaging 30,042 per game, up from 29,304 last year.

Each team has a different dynamic at work. The Rays have a history of struggling to sell tickets. The Reds just broke a streak of nine consecutive losing seasons, which made them an afterthought heading into the season. San Diego and Atlanta also are surprising contenders, and warm weather on the West Coast and in the South presents other options besides going to a ballpark.

There's one common thread.

"I understand with the economy the way it is, some people can't afford to come out to the game," LeCure said.

Attendance overall is down minimally in the majors this season, from 30,215 per game last year to 30,078. The economy has cut into not only baseball's crowds but those for other professional sports as well.

Beyond that, it's anyone's guess.

The Reds' long streak of futility — no playoff appearance since 1995, no winning record since 2000 — cut deeply into fan interest. They drew only 1.7 million fans last year, their smallest attendance since 1986 when they were at Cinergy Field. One game drew only 9,878 fans, the smallest gate since Great American Ball Park opened in 2003.

It was a measure of how much the losing has hurt fan interest.



Their biggest crowds this season came when the rival Cubs and Cardinals were in town, bringing tens of thousands of fans with them. At some games, the visiting fans drowned out the home crowd.

"We welcome them because we need the attendance," [url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bbo_drawing_a_crowd#"][color="#366388"]Reds manager Dusty Baker[/color][/url] said before a series with Chicago. "We need the attendance so we can sustain and get some more — more players, that is."

The Reds' payroll depends heavily upon attendance. Cincinnati increased its opening day payroll from $71 million last year to $72.4 million, which ranked 19th in the majors. The Reds are hoping for a significant bump in attendance next year to give them more payroll flexibility.

Historically, teams usually see a jump in attendance the year after a great season. Tampa Bay's attendance increased from 1.38 million in 2007 to 1.81 million in 2008, when it went to the World Series and had those playoff crowds. The improbable postseason run resulted in a bump in ticket sales to 1.87 million last year.

The Reds know what that's like.

They drew 2.06 million fans in 1999, when they made an unexpected push before losing a one-game playoff to the Mets for the wild card. Season ticket sales increased in the offseason, and made an even bigger jump when the club acquired Ken Griffey Jr. at the [url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bbo_drawing_a_crowd#"][color="#366388"]start of spring training[/color][/url]. Cincinnati sold 2.58 million tickets for 2000.

For now, though, the small crowds are disappointing.

The Braves won 14 straight division championships through 2005, an unmatched run of titles. They've made an unexpected run toward the playoffs in Cox's final season before retirement. The feel-good story has resulted in an increase of only 638 fans per game.

The most famous Brave doesn't understand.

"These young kids are playing well," Hall of Famer Hank Aaron said recently. "Oh man, we've got some good-looking young kids out there. The city should be excited about what we have here."

In some cities, the excitement is still small-scale. "It's a shame," the Reds' LeCure said. "The city's been waiting for so long."




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