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He's a Ranger. Fuck.

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[quote name='Bunghole' date='09 July 2010 - 06:11 PM' timestamp='1278713485' post='896492']
He's a Ranger. Fuck.

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That doesn't bother me at all.

Better than Cards or Yanks.
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[quote name='Bengals1181' date='09 July 2010 - 05:21 PM' timestamp='1278721269' post='896500']
if they really want another starter, why not go after [b]Roy Oswalt?[/b] Dan Haren and Ted Lilly are also options.
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Sheeit.

We'd gain a couple of wins just by virtue of no longer having to face him.

I'd be up for that...
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[quote name='Elflocko' date='09 July 2010 - 08:32 PM' timestamp='1278721970' post='896501']
Sheeit.

We'd gain a couple of wins just by virtue of no longer having to face him.

I'd be up for that...
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This.
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[quote name='CJandRudiJ' date='09 July 2010 - 09:20 PM' timestamp='1278724847' post='896509']
We wont get oswalt, hes signed for next year at 16 mil...too much money.
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aren't we freeing up like $14 million once Harang is gone? Isn't this the same argument people like you were making for getting Lee, except in this case, the pitcher is already under contract for next year?
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[quote name='Bengals1181' date='10 July 2010 - 01:56 PM' timestamp='1278784560' post='896568']
aren't we freeing up like $14 million once Harang is gone? Isn't this the same argument people like you were making for getting Lee, except in this case, the pitcher is already under contract for next year?
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No cause I was never under the impression we would resign him. I figured we could rent him for 2 months, go far in the playoffs, then let him walk.

And we are freeing up money once Harang is gone, but a lot of that will go to raises for guys like Votto, Phillips, etc.

[quote]2011 Contract Issues: Cincinnati Reds
By Tim Dierkes [May 3, 2010 at 4:38pm CST]
The Reds face a slew of contractual options after the season:

Aaron Harang has a $12.75MM club option with a $2MM buyout. The option price increases by $250K if Harang reaches 210 innings. Plus, both the option price and buyout increase if he's traded. If Harang stays with the Reds through the season, they'll decline.
Bronson Arroyo has an $11MM club option with a $2MM buyout. The option can increase to $13MM based on innings pitched. I envision the Reds declining this as well, giving them flexibility to sign a veteran replacement.
Shortstop Orlando Cabrera has a $4MM mutual option, with a buyout that can be worth either $0.5MM or $1MM. It'll probably be the latter, assuming the player exercises and the club declines.
Catcher Ramon Hernandez has a $3.25MM option that vests with 120 games. Assuming Ryan Hanigan stays healthy, this won't vest.
Outfielder Jonny Gomes has a $1.75MM club option with a buyout ranging from $50K to $200K based on plate appearances.
The Reds have three other free agents in Arthur Rhodes, Mike Lincoln, and Miguel Cairo. The trio earns $5MM this year. All told the Reds will clear just under $30MM if all of these players are allowed to leave, accounting for buyouts.

The Reds have $4.76MM in increases to players under contract, most of it going to Brandon Phillips. They'll also owe first-time arbitration raises to Joey Votto, Edinson Volquez, Johnny Cueto, Micah Owings, and Bill Bray. Jared Burton and Laynce Nix will be in the second-time class. It'll cost over $10MM extra to retain the key players, with Votto getting the biggest bump.

Holding payroll steady and allowing all free agents to leave, the Reds should have over $10MM to work with. They'll have a lot of holes to fill. If the Reds are out of the race in a few months, saving $5-10MM in salary dumps would go a long way for 2011.

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So they have us at about 10 mil, and this is if we dont resign bronson too, which we may or may not.

So Oswalt would send us over budget and we wouldnt have any room to add anyone else in the offseason.

Just not gonna happen.
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