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Jamie_B

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Ya'll are a bunch of pussies. Where's the evil in your little liberal bleeding hearts? For fuck's sake, this is why I play the lottery...I want to get rich as fuck so I can treat other people like shit, buy fancy crap I don't need and break laws and be able to get away with it. This is the American dream in action people...FOCUS on the brass ring! It doesn't matter who you piss off, step on, kill or maim to get material gain.
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I have literally been angry since I saw those signs on wall street and them drinking champaigne this morning. What does a stock broker add to society in any way. They just shuffle things around and make money off of it. Just awful people who are completely disconnected from reality because all they do is hang out with eachother. I can not imagine a life where you go into work and all you are thinking about is how much money you can make. Not creating something, not helping someone, not improving something....just me me me me me me me. I have no idea how someone could be a stock broker and in any religion. It is anti christian.
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[quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1317919549' post='1041028']
I have literally been angry since I saw those signs on wall street and them drinking champaigne this morning. What does a stock broker add to society in any way. They just shuffle things around and make money off of it. Just awful people who are completely disconnected from reality because all they do is hang out with eachother. I can not imagine a life where you go into work and all you are thinking about is how much money you can make. Not creating something, not helping someone, not improving something....just me me me me me me me. I have no idea how someone could be a stock broker and in any religion. It is anti christian.
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I take it you are fond of advertising agencies?
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[quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1317919549' post='1041028']
I have literally been angry since I saw those signs on wall street and them drinking champaigne this morning. What does a stock broker add to society in any way. They just shuffle things around and make money off of it. Just awful people who are completely disconnected from reality because all they do is hang out with eachother. I can not imagine a life where you go into work and all you are thinking about is how much money you can make. Not creating something, not helping someone, not improving something....just me me me me me me me. I have no idea how someone could be a stock broker and in any religion. It is anti christian.
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One of my favorite quotes from the movie "Inside Job"

[b][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoO2gDTrTtE[/media][/b]
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How the fuck do you get 100k in student loan debt? You better be getting a degree in a hard science for that kind of dough.
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My daughter is looking at a two year school and the program is $53,000 for her to earn a degree. A real eye opener for sure...
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[quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1317919549' post='1041028']
I have literally been angry since I saw those signs on wall street and them drinking champaigne this morning. What does a stock broker add to society in any way. They just shuffle things around and make money off of it. Just awful people who are completely disconnected from reality because all they do is hang out with eachother. I can not imagine a life where you go into work and all you are thinking about is how much money you can make. Not creating something, not helping someone, not improving something....just me me me me me me me. I have no idea how someone could be a stock broker and in any religion. It is anti christian.
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Stock brokers are helping people, their clients. Stock brokers are kind of going away though, you don't need them anymore.
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[url="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-18-2011/world-of-class-warfare---the-poor-s-free-ride-is-over"]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-18-2011/world-of-class-warfare---the-poor-s-free-ride-is-over[/url]

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I love Jon Stewart...

[url="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-5-2011/parks-and-demonstration?xrs=share_copy"]http://www.thedailys...?xrs=share_copy[/url]
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[quote name='Ben' timestamp='1318010125' post='1041418']
[url="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-18-2011/world-of-class-warfare---the-poor-s-free-ride-is-over"]http://www.thedailys...ee-ride-is-over[/url]
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One of my favorite segments.
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This is on topic, so need to create a separate thread. Why are CEO's applauded when they take a $1 salary?

Isn't this just a way to avoid paying taxes since capital gains are taxed at...what... 15% i think?

/Damn poor and their refrigerators
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[quote name='Ben' timestamp='1318010988' post='1041434']
This is on topic, so need to create a separate thread. Why are CEO's applauded when they take a $1 salary?

[color=#ff0000]Isn't this just a way to avoid paying taxes since capital gains are taxed at...what... 15% i think?[/color]

/Damn poor and their refrigerators
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shhhh
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[quote name='Ben' timestamp='1318010988' post='1041434']
This is on topic, so need to create a separate thread. Why are CEO's applauded when they take a $1 salary?

Isn't this just a way to avoid paying taxes since capital gains are taxed at...what... 15% i think?

/Damn poor and their refrigerators
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What's your idea to fix that?

I like my 15% LTCG. If you eliminate that, people won't invest as much = less jobs = crappier economy.
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[b] [size=3][url="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/panic-of-the-plutocrats.html?_r=1"]http://www.nytimes.c...crats.html?_r=1[/url][/size][/b]

[b] Panic of the Plutocrats[/b]

[b] By [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/paulkrugman/index.html?inline=nyt-per"]PAUL KRUGMAN[/url][/b]


[quote][size=5]It remains to be seen whether the Occupy Wall Street protests will change America’s direction. Yet the protests have already elicited a remarkably hysterical reaction from Wall Street, the super-rich in general, and politicians and pundits who reliably serve the interests of the wealthiest hundredth of a percent.[/size]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]And this reaction tells you something important — namely, that the extremists threatening American values are what F.D.R. called “economic royalists,” not the people camping in Zuccotti Park.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]Consider first how Republican politicians have portrayed the modest-sized if growing demonstrations, which have involved some confrontations with the police — confrontations that seem to have involved a lot of police overreaction — but nothing one could call a riot. And there has in fact been nothing so far to match the behavior of Tea Party crowds in the summer of 2009.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]Nonetheless, Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, has denounced “mobs” and “the pitting of Americans against Americans.” The G.O.P. presidential candidates have weighed in, with Mitt Romney accusing the protesters of waging “class warfare,” while Herman Cain calls them “anti-American.” My favorite, however, is Senator Rand Paul, who for some reason worries that the protesters will start seizing iPads, because they believe rich people don’t deserve to have them.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]Michael Bloomberg, New York’s mayor and a financial-industry titan in his own right, was a bit more moderate, but still accused the protesters of trying to “take the jobs away from people working in this city,” a statement that bears no resemblance to the movement’s actual goals.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]And if you were listening to talking heads on CNBC, you learned that the protesters “let their freak flags fly,” and are “aligned with Lenin.”[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]The way to understand all of this is to realize that it’s part of a broader syndrome, in which wealthy Americans who benefit hugely from a system rigged in their favor react with hysteria to anyone who points out just how rigged the system is.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]Last year, you may recall, a number of financial-industry barons went wild over very mild criticism from President Obama. They denounced Mr. Obama as being almost a socialist for endorsing the so-called Volcker rule, which would simply prohibit banks backed by federal guarantees from engaging in risky speculation. And as for their reaction to proposals to close a loophole that lets some of them pay remarkably low taxes — well, Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of the Blackstone Group, compared it to Hitler’s invasion of Poland.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]And then there’s the campaign of character assassination against Elizabeth Warren, the financial reformer now running for the Senate in Massachusetts. Not long ago a [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htX2usfqMEs"]YouTube video[/url] of Ms. Warren making an eloquent, down-to-earth case for taxes on the rich went viral. Nothing about what she said was radical — it was no more than a modern riff on Oliver Wendell Holmes’s famous dictum that “Taxes are what we pay for civilized society.”[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]But listening to the reliable defenders of the wealthy, you’d think that Ms. Warren was the second coming of Leon Trotsky. George Will declared that she has a “collectivist agenda,” that she believes that “individualism is a chimera.” And Rush Limbaugh called her “a parasite who hates her host. Willing to destroy the host while she sucks the life out of it.”[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]What’s going on here? The answer, surely, is that Wall Street’s Masters of the Universe realize, deep down, how morally indefensible their position is. They’re not John Galt; they’re not even Steve Jobs. They’re people who got rich by peddling complex financial schemes that, far from delivering clear benefits to the American people, helped push us into a crisis whose aftereffects continue to blight the lives of tens of millions of their fellow citizens.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]Yet they have paid no price. Their institutions were bailed out by taxpayers, with few strings attached. They continue to benefit from explicit and implicit federal guarantees — basically, they’re still in a game of heads they win, tails taxpayers lose. And they benefit from tax loopholes that in many cases have people with multimillion-dollar incomes paying lower rates than middle-class families.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]This special treatment can’t bear close scrutiny — and therefore, as they see it, there must be no close scrutiny. Anyone who points out the obvious, no matter how calmly and moderately, must be demonized and driven from the stage. In fact, the more reasonable and moderate a critic sounds, the more urgently he or she must be demonized, hence the frantic sliming of Elizabeth Warren.[/size][/size][/color]

[color=#000000][size=1][size=5]So who’s really being un-American here? Not the protesters, who are simply trying to get their voices heard. No, the real extremists here are America’s oligarchs, who want to suppress any criticism of the sources of their wealth.[/size][/quote][/size][/color]
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[url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/11/rachel-maddow-occupy-wall-street-glenn-beck_n_1004740.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009"]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/11/rachel-maddow-occupy-wall-street-glenn-beck_n_1004740.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009[/url]

Great Stuff. I think its really funny that the right is calling this a class warfare yet ignoring who started it.

I know we have a great political cartoon page here. The political cartoon I want to see is of a middle class guy watching the news, it says something like."CEO receives 550 million bonus after being forced out for fraud his company committed that led to the destruction of a state workers pension". Then have the guy say, well that sucks but my life is good, I have a job, wife etc. etc. Then with each panel those attachments and reasons for him to overlook the corporate greed start disapearing. He loses his job. He can't afford health care and his wife passes away, etc. etc. At some point, as many have said here, when you have nothing you have nothing to lose.
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Great Stuff. I think its really funny that the right is calling this a class warfare yet ignoring who started it.

I know we have a great political cartoon page here. The political cartoon I want to see is of a middle class guy watching the news, it says something like."CEO receives 550 million bonus after being forced out for fraud his company committed that led to the destruction of a state workers pension". Then have the guy say, well that sucks but my life is good, I have a job, wife etc. etc. Then with each panel those attachments and reasons for him to overlook the corporate greed start disapearing. He loses his job. He can't afford health care and his wife passes away, etc. etc. At some point, as many have said here, when you have nothing you have nothing to lose.
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