|Elflocko| Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 [quote name='Ron~Popeil' timestamp='1322513371' post='1068871'] Get the union money out of politics as well and I would support such a bill. No representative should be beholden to anyone other than their constituents. [/quote] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZC1HVRz450 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8s1p7NdHm0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Here is how I view the US right now. The vast majority of the pople are willing to do whats best for everyone. Lets say you have 1000 people in a city. 950 of them are willing to do whatever it takes to make the city as a whole better. Then you have these 50 other guys who want to do whatever it takes to make them better. These guys claim that greed is good and its just the markets and how they function. So they line there pockets and now have more influence to line them more. The 950 starts to fall apart. They naively assumed everyone was with them and for the greater good of all, but now these 50 are driving nice cars etc. etc. "Why should I play by the rules and care about the society as a whole when this guy is not and there is no consequence for him?" I think that a big part of this is just to make sure that these people know that most of us think their assholes. Greed rules this place and the people who want to do things for the betterment of all are the ones who are punished. as an aside. Maybe thats what you get when you build a country based on individualism and not collectivism. And no that does not mean Socialism. That means creating a culture where people care much more about their work and personal status then overall wellness. We work ourselves to death trying to keep up with the Jones's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1322867206' post='1070125'] Here is how I view the US right now. The vast majority of the pople are willing to do whats best for everyone. Lets say you have 1000 people in a city. 950 of them are willing to do whatever it takes to make the city as a whole better. Then you have these 50 other guys who want to do whatever it takes to make them better. These guys claim that greed is good and its just the markets and how they function. So they line there pockets and now have more influence to line them more. The 950 starts to fall apart. They naively assumed everyone was with them and for the greater good of all, but now these 50 are driving nice cars etc. etc. "Why should I play by the rules and care about the society as a whole when this guy is not and there is no consequence for him?" I think that a big part of this is just to make sure that these people know that most of us think their assholes. Greed rules this place and the people who want to do things for the betterment of all are the ones who are punished. as an aside. Maybe thats what you get when you build a country based on individualism and not collectivism. And no that does not mean Socialism. That means creating a culture where people care much more about there work and personal status then overall wellness. We work ourselves to death trying to keep up with the Jones. [/quote] WTF town do you live in? I would say 900 of them would worry for themselves 100 would help the community along with themselves. There's nothing wrong with worrying for yourself, but most people are simply concerned with their own (and their families) well being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='sois' timestamp='1322869295' post='1070127'] WTF town do you live in? I would say 900 of them would worry for themselves 100 would help the community along with themselves. There's nothing wrong with worrying for yourself, but most people are simply concerned with their own (and their families) well being. [/quote] If 90% of people are that self centered then we are all fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1322872680' post='1070138'] If 90% of people are that self centered then we are all fucked. [/quote] Now you're catching on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Elflocko' timestamp='1322873541' post='1070139'] Now you're catching on... [/quote] One of the reasons that I am not that patriotic. Tons of great stuff in this country. That is not one of them. We don't have a monopoly on greed, but other countries certainly have better priorities. One Day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRmBChQjZPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 If people only voted in their own self interest, 99% of them wouldnt be voting republican. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Prosecuting Wall St Part 1 - [url="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7390540n&tag=contentBody;storyMediaBox"]http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7390540n&tag=contentBody;storyMediaBox[/url] Part 2 - [url="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7390542n&tag=segementExtraScroller;housing"]http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7390542n&tag=segementExtraScroller;housing[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 For those that don't know what a Credit Default Swap is... [url="http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/12/05/greedy-bastards-favorite-financial-innovation-the-swaps-market/"]http://www.dylanrati...e-swaps-market/[/url] Edit: Part 2 - [url="http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/12/05/greedy-bastards-antidote-the-swaps-market-part-2/"]http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/12/05/greedy-bastards-antidote-the-swaps-market-part-2/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Nothing wrong with derivatives. They smooth out the market, make things less volatile and more liquid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n9kRXRolZQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ne13Zft9Q"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ne13Zft9Q[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Fareed is right [url="http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2011/12/11/gps-fareeds-take-12-10.cnn#/video/world/2011/12/11/gps-fareeds-take-12-10.cnn"]http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2011/12/11/gps-fareeds-take-12-10.cnn#/video/world/2011/12/11/gps-fareeds-take-12-10.cnn[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Finklestein Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1323665461' post='1074344'] Fareed is right [url="http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2011/12/11/gps-fareeds-take-12-10.cnn#/video/world/2011/12/11/gps-fareeds-take-12-10.cnn"]http://www.cnn.com/v...-take-12-10.cnn[/url] [/quote] Fareed is one of my favorite journalists. In my opinion he is the best CNN has to offer, and I like CNN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [url="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec11/makingsense_12-12.html"]What do Tax Rates' Ups and Downs Mean for Economic Growth?[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [url="http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/12/14/americas-tax-code-a-rigged-system-written-by-a-bought-government-that-you-get-to-pay-for/"]America’s Tax Code: A Rigged System Written By a Bought Government (That You Get to Pay For)[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 [b] [url="http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/05/11/umair-haque-on-radio-free-dylan/"]Umair Haque: Capitalists Who Make vs. Capitalists Who Take[/url][/b] This may be the single best interview regarding how our economy isnt working and how both parties arent addressing it. Also talks about the real economy vs the one we have now, and how GDP isnt a measurement of the real economy. Seriously spend 45 minutes listening to this, it's THAT good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I dont know how anybody can really defend this garbage... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-LLXAahb_w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 [media='']http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7dfPL7Kho[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2012/04/26/why-im-leaving-occupy-atlanta Took this guy six months to realize (or admit) the problems that were obvious from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 [quote name='BengalBacker' timestamp='1335853321' post='1127725'] [url="http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2012/04/26/why-im-leaving-occupy-atlanta"]http://clatl.com/fre...-occupy-atlanta[/url] Took this guy six months to realize (or admit) the problems that were obvious from the start. [/quote] Because he's a false flag operative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer_Rice Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 [quote name='BengalBacker' timestamp='1335853321' post='1127725'] [url="http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2012/04/26/why-im-leaving-occupy-atlanta"]http://clatl.com/fre...-occupy-atlanta[/url] Took this guy six months to realize (or admit) the problems that were obvious from the start. [/quote] Thanks for posting the link. The kid's heart is in the right place. [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1335875842' post='1127747'] Because he's a false flag operative? [/quote] Don't jump the shark, Jamie! Anyhow, it's May Day. [url="http://archive.org/details/SongsOfTheWobblies"]Sing along with some Wobbly songs![/url] Or, [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6b0CretuE"]Go The Fuck To Sleep.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1335875842' post='1127747'] Because he's a false flag operative? [/quote] Yeah, that's probably it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 [quote name='BengalBacker' timestamp='1336039461' post='1128418'] Yeah, that's probably it. [/quote] Refuse to admit these people have legitimate complaints huh? All just a bunch of socialists/communists huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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