oldschooler Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [size=6][b] To trade or not to trade Palmer? Bengals owner doesn't say[/b][/size][list] [*]By Steve Wyche NFL.com [*]Senior Writer [*]Published: Oct. 11, 2011 at 03:15 p.m. [/list] HOUSTON -- [url="http://www.nfl.com/teams/cincinnatibengals/profile?team=CIN"]Cincinnati Bengals[/url] owner Mike Brown declined comment Tuesday about whether the team has plans to trade quarterback [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/carsonpalmer/profile?id=PAL249055"]Carson Palmer[/url] before next week's trade deadline. "I don't have a thing to say about that," Brown said while attending the NFL Fall Meeting, adding that he doesn't like to comment on football matters. Palmer is currently out of football, holding true to his pledge to retire if he isn't traded. Brown hasn't given in to Palmer's demand and said in the preseason that the Bengals consider Palmer to be retired. The Bengals retain Palmer's rights since he is under contract, meaning he can't play for another team unless he is traded or released. The NFL's trade deadline is Tuesday, Oct.18. In Palmer's absence, the Bengals are off to a 3-2 start behind rookie quarterback [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/andydalton/profile?id=DAL659900"]Andy Dalton[/url], who has led the team to fourth-quarter comeback wins in each of the last two weeks against the Bills and Jaguars. He has thrown for 1,047 yards, six touchdowns and five interceptions. [url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8230a5a2/article/to-trade-or-not-to-trade-palmer-bengals-owner-doesnt-say?module=HP11_headline_stack"]http://www.nfl.com/n..._headline_stack[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Isn't the trade deadline week 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchWalkerRokks Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Trade him for Lebron. Straight.... Up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 No offense Old, but haven't there been enough "Are the Bengals going to trade Carson" articles/threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBengalsFan Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [b] Mike Brown mum on possible Carson Palmer trade[/b] [color=#666666][size=1] Posted by Mike Florio on October 11, 2011, 6:36 PM EDT[/size][/color] [img]http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/mikebrownap.jpg?w=160[/img][color=#999999][i][right]AP[/right][/i][/color][font=Georgia,] The NFL’s annual trading deadline comes in a week. With the Bengals at 3-2 and rookie quarterback [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6493/andy-dalton"]Andy Dalton[/url]playing very well, owner Mike Brown could be tempted to move quarterback [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2550/carson-palmer"]Carson Palmer[/url].[/font] [font=Georgia,] If Brown is, he isn’t saying.[/font] [font=Georgia,] “[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8230a5a2/article/to-trade-or-not-to-trade-palmer-bengals-owner-doesnt-say?module=HP11_headline_stack"]I don’t have a thing to say about that[/url],” Brown said at the ownership meetings in Houston, according to Steve Wyche of NFL.com. Per Wyche, Brown also said he doesn’t like to comment on football matters.[/font] [font=Georgia,] Of course, that policy didn’t stop Brown from [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/26/mike-brown-were-not-going-to-reward-carson-palmer-with-trade/"]commenting strongly[/url] on Palmer’s status after the lockout ended.[/font] [font=Georgia,] As explained in our [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/10/week-five-monday-10-pack/"]Week Five 10-pack[/url], there’s no reason to trade Palmer within the next week, since the Bengals could get more by launching an auction for Palmer in the offseason. With the Bengals likely to get one or more 2012 draft picks if the trade happens now or later, why not wait until later?[/font] [font=Georgia,] There’s also a chance that the Bengals could get an even better package for Palmer if a team that needs a quarterback can’t get the quarterback the team wants via free agency or the draft.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1318375352' post='1043954'] No offense Old, but haven't there been enough "Are the Bengals going to trade Carson" articles/threads? [/quote] I was thinking the same thing. I think we need to make a pinned thread all related to Carson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='Tigris' timestamp='1318374142' post='1043948'] Isn't the trade deadline week 6? [/quote] deadline is a week from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 [quote name='ButchWalkerRokks' timestamp='1318374536' post='1043950'] Trade him for Lebron. Straight.... Up. [/quote] while this is a joke, I did see a tweet today that some NBA players are seeking work in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|westside bengal| Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Of course, if Brown waits there is always the possibility that after sitting on the couch or basking in the sun for a year CP might just decide he likes this retirement thing and then Mike gets nothing but the memory of paying him the millions that made it all possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1318375352' post='1043954'] No offense Old, but haven't there been enough "Are the Bengals going to trade Carson" articles/threads? [/quote] No offense taken. I don't write the articles and/or news, I just post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='westside bengal' timestamp='1318377746' post='1043970'] Of course, if Brown waits there is always the possibility that after sitting on the couch or basking in the sun for a year CP might just decide he likes this retirement thing and then Mike gets nothing but the memory of paying him the millions that made it all possible. [/quote] Possibly. I am in the "TRADE HIM NOW!" camp. His value isn't going to go up the longer his 30 year old ass sits out of football. I will say this again in all seriousness: why in the fuck can we not trade him straight up for a starting player rather than a draft pick? Lets get a top guard, or a starting safety or SOMETHING for him! What is the advantage for the team in not moving him? Can someone explain that to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='Bunghole' timestamp='1318379243' post='1043975'] Possibly. I am in the "TRADE HIM NOW!" camp. His value isn't going to go up the longer his 30 year old ass sits out of football. I will say this again in all seriousness: why in the fuck can we not trade him straight up for a starting player rather than a draft pick? Lets get a top guard, or a starting safety or SOMETHING for him! What is the advantage for the team in not moving him? Can someone explain that to me? [/quote] IMO his value will be higher in April than it is now. Any team that would want/need him at this point is already out of the playoff hunt. They aren't going to shell out for him now. They will in April though so that he's ready for 2012. Hope springs eternal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1318379415' post='1043978'] IMO his value will be higher in April than it is now. Any team that would want/need him at this point is already out of the playoff hunt. They aren't going to shell out for him now. They will in April though so that he's ready for 2012. Hope springs eternal. [/quote] There is always a market for starting quarterbacks. It's tough to call Palmer's value now or in the future, but the demand will always be there. Look at what unproven players like Matt Schaub (two 2nd round picks), Matt Cassel (2nd round pick), and Kevin Kolb (2nd round pick, Rodgers-Cromartie) fetched in trades. Even washed up quarterbacks like McNabb have some value (two 6th round picks). With Palmer turning 32 next year and sitting for a year, it's hard to judge what kind of value he'd bring in a trade. Maybe the year off might be interpreted as a good thing, saving his body and giving it an extended period to heal. I think teams would rather get him with a whole off-season to work. Expecting to trade for him mid-season and for Palmer to immediately jump into the starting lineup is a little unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah15 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Shit if a tall and fast nba player can play football that would be awesome. Imagine a 6ft8-7ft reciever lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='Inigo Montoya' timestamp='1318382027' post='1043989'] There is always a market for starting quarterbacks. It's tough to call Palmer's value now or in the future, but the demand will always be there. Look at what unproven players like Matt Schaub (two 2nd round picks), Matt Cassel (2nd round pick), and Kevin Kolb (2nd round pick, Rodgers-Cromartie) fetched in trades. Even washed up quarterbacks like McNabb have some value (two 6th round picks). With Palmer turning 32 next year and sitting for a year, it's hard to judge what kind of value he'd bring in a trade. Maybe the year off might be interpreted as a good thing, saving his body and giving it an extended period to heal. I think teams would rather get him with a whole off-season to work. Expecting to trade for him mid-season and for Palmer to immediately jump into the starting lineup is a little unrealistic. [/quote] I agree with this. The best case would have been to trade him before the season. We might have been able to get a 1st rounder from Miami or Seattle. But once that opportunity passed, the offseason became our best chance to get a good return. For teams like Miami who may need a QB right now, it makes much more sense for them to stay in the race for Andrew Luck than give up anything significant for Carson. After the season, one of the teams who doesn't get Luck may feel that Carson makes more sense for a 2nd rounder than a rookie in the 1st. I think the most similar recent trade was when Philly traded McNabb to the Redskins. They got an early 2nd and a future 3rd or 4th. I'd be happy with that type of haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='Elijah15' timestamp='1318382906' post='1043991'] Shit if a tall and fast nba player can play football that would be awesome. Imagine a 6ft8-7ft reciever lol [/quote] Look up old video of normal sized CBs trying to cover Harold Carmichael of the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrandom42 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='Elijah15' timestamp='1318382906' post='1043991'] Shit if a tall and fast nba player can play football that would be awesome. Imagine a 6ft8-7ft reciever lol [/quote] Didn't Lebron pay TE in high School? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.O.C.H.O SHOW Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='jrandom42' timestamp='1318385764' post='1044004'] Didn't Lebron pay TE in high School? [/quote] im not 100% sure but if he chose the path of football he woulda been the #1 recruit at WR. he would be like the super version of calvin johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='jrandom42' timestamp='1318385764' post='1044004'] Didn't Lebron pay TE in high School? [/quote] yea he did and was a pretty high TE recruit too I think, but chose basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1318375352' post='1043954'] No offense Old, but haven't there been enough "Are the Bengals going to trade Carson" articles/threads? [/quote] One of biggest stories of this franchise is the Carson Palmer story. You're tired of threads about it? What about all of the douchy threads about nicknames? What about all of the lame ass threads questioning people's "fandom" if they doubt Dalton's ability? Keep posting Old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButchWalkerRokks Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1318377134' post='1043967'] while this is a joke, I did see a tweet today that some NBA players are seeking work in the NFL. [/quote] Haha yeah I read similar tweets and that's why I was thinking of it. I think the NBA/NFL transition would be very tough though. They can't just flail their arms when touched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastmaster Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 This is all mike brown's fault. Holding the team's well-being hostage over a pissing contest with the California sunshine boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 Lebron was an All State WR and did not play his Sr year. Dude is very good but we have no idea what his 40 time would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 By this time next week, the Quitter will still be in Cali, doing nothing. And the articles will fade away. We'll deal with this unperson in the offseason...the way it should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 [b]I'd trade Carson right now for a starting LG or LB Aaron Curry of Seattle (can never have enough good LBs)[/b] [b]other than that, I'd take a 2nd and 4th rder in next years draft for him or let him stay retired. [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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