!!!THE 4TH THROUGH 7TH ROUNDS OF THE 2012 DRAFT THREAD!!!

[oldschooler]

I would like to see us take either Polk, Rainey or Miller at the RB position.


I would like to see us take either Criner, Toon, Streeter or McNutt at the WR position.


I would like to see us take either Ronnel Lewis, Travis Lewis, Audie Cole or Kyle Wilber at the LB position.


I would like to see us take either George Iloka, Janzen Jackson or Markelle Martin at the Safety position.


I would like to see us take either Boykin, Minnifield or Menzie at the CB position.

I would like to see us take either Bobby Massie or James Brown at the OL position.

[cincity]

What time does it start?

[oldschooler]

By the way, you can watch the NFL Network coverage of the draft online.



[b] Live Broadcast Schedule[/b]



[b]NFL Draft Live in Primetime on NFL Network April 26-28[/b]
The NFL Draft returns to primetime in 2012, with the first round taking place Thursday April 26 at 8 p.m. ET, followed by the second and the third rounds on Friday April 27 at 7 p.m. ET. Rounds 4-7 will be televised Saturday, April 28 at noon ET. Watch the entire draft live on this web page, or on the NFL Network.

[b]Round 1: Thursday, April 26, 2012[/b]
Live coverage begins 7:30pm ET

[b]Rounds 2-3: Friday, April 27, 2012[/b]
Live coverage begins 6:30pm ET

[b]Rounds 4-7: Saturday, April 28, 2012[/b]
Live coverage begins 12:00pm ET



[url="http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/live"]http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/live[/url]



[quote name='cincity' timestamp='1335624678' post='1125583']
What time does it start?
[/quote]


Noon Eastern time.

[Bengals1181]

Gimme Polk, a WR and an OT/OG to replace both Roland and Bell and free up a roster spot.



I think we'll see an offensive heavy day as there's really no more room on the defensive side of the ball for anyone to make the roster.

[Jamie_B]

I would love to see us add Polk.

[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1335624778' post='1125585']
Gimme Polk, a WR and an OT/OG to replace both Roland and Bell and free up a roster spot.



I think we'll see an offensive heavy day as there's really no more room on the defensive side of the ball for anyone to make the roster.
[/quote]


Did we resign B. Johnson? We might still be able to add a LB, but yeah I hope the go O as well.

[oldschooler]

[size=6][b] Best Players Left on Day 3[/b][/size]

[color=#cc0000][b]Saturday, April 28, 2012[/b][/color]


There is plenty of talent available after three rounds of the draft. Even after a massive run on wide receivers and defensive backs, those two positions remain rich. However, many of these talented players usually come with concerns, specifically medical or character questions.

Keep in mind that quite a few of last year's day-three picks contributed as rookies, including Seahawks LB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6633/K.J.-Wright"]K.J. Wright[/url], Titans LB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6637/Colin-McCarthy"]Colin McCarthy[/url], Redskins RB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6593/Roy-Helu"]Roy Helu[/url], Titans DT [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6653/Karl-Klug"]Karl Klug[/url], Raiders WR [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6658/Denarius-Moore"]Denarius Moore[/url], [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/1698/Texans-QB"]Texans QB[/url] [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6603/T.J.-Yates"]T.J. Yates[/url], Seahawks CB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6660/Richard-Sherman"]Richard Sherman[/url], Ravens DE/OLB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6671/Pernell-McPhee"]Pernell McPhee[/url], and Giants LB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6706/Jacquian-Williams"]Jacquian Williams[/url]. Good players have yet to be drafted.
Here are the 15 best available:

[b]1. DT [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7494/Alameda-Ta"]Alameda Ta'amu[/url] (6'3/348), Washington[/b] - Blessed with the massive frame of a nose tackle, Ta'amu plays more like a penetrating interior lineman, doing his best work upfield to disrupt. For such a big player, he lacks a dominant anchor versus single blocks and especially when double teamed. Ta'amu's upper body is a bit soft, and teams likely question his best fit at the next level. Wade Phillips and the Texans prefer their nose tackles to penetrate, so Ta'amu could be a fit in Houston.

[b]2. WR [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7500/Joe-Adams"]Joe Adams[/url] (5'11/179), Arkansas[/b] - An explosive athlete that is unafraid to work over the middle, Adams should have been drafted ahead of several receivers taken on the draft's first two days. Adams projects very well to the slot with tremendous vertical speed and quick cuts to create separation. He is a bit thin and drops catchable passes at times, but teams are not only getting a viable inside option but a tremendous returner. The Panthers worked Adams out before the draft and have a need in both areas.

[b]3. DL [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7528/Malik-Jackson"]Malik Jackson[/url] (6'5/290), Tennessee[/b] - A personal favorite, Jackson possesses some of the strongest and most active hands in the draft. He holds an anchor very well when playing the run and wins with persistence and power when pass rushing. As a senior, Jackson played inside at defensive tackle after being a longtime end. This 'tweener label should be categorized as versatility since Jackson excels from each position and can seemingly gain or lose weight at will. Jackson compares favorably to a [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3260/Chris-Canty"]Chris Canty[/url] type with the potential to play at least three positions: 3-4 power end, 4-3 left defensive end, and 4-3 tackle. The Colts could be a great fit.

[b]4. RB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7424/Chris-Polk"]Chris Polk[/url] (5'11/215), Washington[/b] - Multiple shoulder surgeries and a unique running style dropped Polk more than expected. He looks like he is gliding on the field, using a single speed while displaying exceptional patience and vision to work behind blockers downfield. The way Polk weaves to open areas and maintains distance from incoming tacklers is impressive. Polk is also a very comfortable receiver but lacks pass-protection ability. He broke plenty of tackles with balance and toughness, but it wasn't enough to break into the top three rounds. The Steelers need a running back and could look at Polk.

[b]5. NT [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7420/Josh-Chapman"]Josh Chapman[/url] (6'1/310), Alabama[/b] - Despite playing his final eight games on a torn ACL, no player in the nation defended the run more stoutly than Chapman last season. He plays in a two-yard radius, getting little penetration but rarely losing ground. An inability to rush the passer certainly limits Chapman's value, as does his knee surgery, but he is an immovable force with excellent balance to clog and occupy blockers. The Steelers could use his services.

[b]6. WR [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7503/Marvin-Jones"]Marvin Jones[/url] (6'2/199), California[/b] - Overshadowed at Cal by top recruit Keenan Allen, Jones made a statement with an impressive Senior Bowl performance. It wasn't enough to boost him into the first three rounds, but he will be a terrific value today. Jones' routes are crisp and exaggerated, and he's at his best when adjusting to poor throws in the air, showcasing some of the greatest body control in the draft. Jones does lack vertical speed and run-after-catch ability that teams covet. The Patriots are the type of club that will appreciate his game.

[b]7. RB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7408/Lamar-Miller"]Lamar Miller[/url] (5'11/212), Miami[/b] - A pure speedster that can take any run to the house if given a sliver of space, Miller left Miami after his redshirt sophomore season with expectations of being selected earlier in the draft. He lacks physical qualities to his game, especially on third downs as a blocker and receiver, but Miller's speed should be coveted now that he's a value pick. The Bengals could use that behind Benjarvus Green-Ellis.

[b]8. WR [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7430/Chris-Givens"]Chris Givens[/url] (5'11/198), Wake Forest[/b] - A true vertical speedster with a solid build, Givens was not asked to run many routes in college and was limited by a weak-armed quarterback. In every game he was underthrown on long passes but still managed to rack up 1,330 yards receiving. Givens left school one year early and needs to get rid of a slight bobble on easy catches, but he offers valuable slot skills. The Browns could use his speed on offense.

[b]9. DL [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7508/Jared-Crick"]Jared Crick[/url] (6'4/285), Nebraska[/b] - A highly touted player before his senior year, Crick tore his pectoral muscle in the fall and surgery cost him the rest of the season. Crick is a technician that grinds out pressures after consistently making solid contact off the snap. He lacks extra burst to penetrate or work around the edge, but Crick should appeal to a base 3-4 team like the Cardinals as a power end.

[b]10. ILB James-[url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/6021/Michael-Johnson"]Michael Johnson[/url] (6'1/249), Nevada[/b] - Johnson is the most prototypical inside linebacker left in the draft. He [i]loves[/i] contact, showing a physical nature when filling run lanes and shedding blocks at the second level. For a thicker-framed defender, Johnson flips his hips in space adequately and reacts quickly to plays in front of him. After [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4657/Curtis-Lofton"]Curtis Lofton[/url] left town, the Falcons could use a later-round starter inside like Johnson.

[b]11. CB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7483/Alfonzo-Dennard"]Alfonzo Dennard[/url] (5'10/203), Nebraska[/b] - As the most physical corner in the draft, Dennard will appeal to teams that prefer press-man coverage. He consistently stays in a receiver's hip pocket while redirecting their routes. However, Dennard may be too physical at times and has a tendency to overextend himself. It does not help that he lacks makeup speed to close distances quickly, so that every mistake he makes hurts him. Dennard was also arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer just a week before the draft. Dennard's game still fits the Seahawks' secondary style, and Pete Carroll is willing to roll dice on talented character risks.

[b]12. DE/OLB Cam Johnson (6'4/267), Virginia[/b] - The top pass rusher available offers burst around the edge while flashing length to generate separation and work back inside. Johnson played with an undisclosed leg injury during his senior season, but offers glimpses of high-caliber disrupting ability. He is reliable and consistent when holding the edge versus the run, but teams may worry about how out of shape he looked at the Senior Bowl.

[b]13. S [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7489/Antonio-Allen"]Antonio Allen[/url] (6'1/202), South Carolina[/b] - A true rover safety/linebacker hybrid, Allen offers a versatile skill set on the third day. He is a strictly in-the-box safety with long arms and reliable tackling. Vikings head coach Leslie Frazier mentioned at the Senior Bowl that teams must find players that can defend massive receiving tight ends, and Allen fits the bill.

[b]14. S [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7502/George-Iloka"]George Iloka[/url] (6'4/222), Boise Sate[/b] - Iloka offers incredible measurables, including a wingspan longer than [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5681/Jason-Pierre-Paul"]Jason Pierre-Paul[/url]'s and a 4.66 forty. However, upside may be Iloka's best asset. The defensive back has plenty of range downfield and even saw time at cornerback in college, but he lacks an aggressive style. Iloka's angles are tentative and he does not clean up when tackling. A team is getting a project safety/rover that could find a specialized role at the next level. The Browns, who face [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5549/Jermaine-Gresham"]Jermaine Gresham[/url], [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/3145/Heath-Miller"]Heath Miller[/url], and [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5840/Ed-Dickson"]Ed Dickson[/url]/[url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/5837/Dennis-Pitta"]Dennis Pitta[/url] twice a year, could use Iloka's skills.

[b]15. CB [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/7492/Brandon-Boykin"]Brandon Boykin[/url] (5'9/183), Georgia[/b] - Boykin offers exactly what teams look for in a slot corner, a physical style at the second level in man or zone coverage. He attacks the proper shoulder when facing the run and forces everything back inside, but in space Boykin is an awful tackler. The Georgia product also offers return ability. He broke his foot during the Senior Bowl, so questions surrounding that injury and his availability are understandable. The Eagles could benefit from trading up to select Boykin.



http://rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/40433/60/best-players-left-on-day-3

[ThurmanMunster]

Polk/Miller and Mcnutt would make me extremely happy.

[happyrid]

There's still a lot of talent left. Polk or Miller would be my favorite pick probably, but a lot of guys still available seem like they would help.

Some good safeties out there. Still a ton of good WRs available. I bet one of the 5ths is a WR.

Assuming we keep all 5 picks, I could see a RB, WR, S, LB and TE being the picks.

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1335624917' post='1125587']


Did we resign B. Johnson? We might still be able to add a LB, but yeah I hope the go O as well.
[/quote]


I don't see a LB. They already have 9 or so on the roster and I see 6 locks where they'll probably only keep 6, at most 7.

[Skilly McRailnob]

use a 5th to move up in the 4th to get Polk.

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1335625208' post='1125596']


I don't see a LB. They already have 9 or so on the roster and I see 6 locks where they'll probably only keep 6, at most 7.
[/quote]


Yeah but we all thought Dline was loaded before the draft too, so at this point who knows.

[oldschooler]

[b] [size=6][url="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2012/04/28/looking-ahead-to-today/"]Looking ahead to today[/url][/size][/b]

[list]
[*]04/28/12 at 10:44am
[*]Written by [email="jreedy@enquirer.com"]jreedy[/email]
[/list]


A couple random thoughts about last night’s second and third round and trying to reset the board for the five picks the Bengals have today.

* I was a fan of Rutgers’ Mohamed Sanu coming into the draft, I am a bigger fan after talking to him after he was drafted by the Bengals in the third round. After getting a prank call on Friday where he thought he was drafted by the Bengals, Sanu finally got the call for real on Friday night. Sanu had no ill will toward the students who did the prank call and he sounded more relieved that he had a team.

* A lot of people were second guessing why two of the three picks went toward defensive tackles. Here are a couple — The defensive line was a major reason why this team went to the playoffs last year, the rotation works, they need to get better in the middle stopping the run, they stuck to their board and competition is a good thing.

* As for that when will they address running back, as we get into rounds 4 and 5 this is the area where you can get some value at linebacker, which is really lacking in depth at the moment.


[u][b]DAY 3 RESET[/b][/u]

[b]Top 4 needs: [/b]Depth at LB, RB, S, DE, OT

[b]Where the Bengals pick (round and overall):[/b] 4-116, 5-156, 5-166, 5-167, 6-191

A look at some of the top guys left on the board at positions of need:

[b]RB:[/b] Lamar Miller, Chris Polk, Tauren Poole

[b]WR: [/b]Joe Adams, Juron Criner, B.J. Cunningham, Nick Toon, Chris Givens, Marvin McNutt

[b]TE (don’t need one but just in case):[/b] Orson Charles, LaDarius Green

[b]DE:[/b] Ernest Owusu, Ronell Lewis, Jamie Blatnick

[b]LB:[/b] Nigel Bradham, Josh Kaddu, Jerry Franklin

[b]S: [/b]George Ilonka, Markelle Martin




[url="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2012/04/28/looking-ahead-to-today/"]http://cincinnati.co...ahead-to-today/[/url]

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1335625396' post='1125599']


Yeah but we all thought Dline was loaded before the draft too, so at this point who knows.
[/quote]


I dunno about that. Harvey was never a sure thing and even then most of us expected a 4th DT. Most people rationally expected they'd get 2 DL and they've picked up 2 DL. Only surprising part is who the 2 were.

At LB they typically keep 6, sometimes 7. IMO they'll go 6 because of what they've done on the DL. Howard, Rey, Lawson, Moch, Muck and Skuta are all locks. That's 6 right there. Then you have Vincent Rey and Dequin Evans who they really like, plus other guys like Micah Johnson.

There's really no room at LB for a new draft pick.

[mongo]

I want the biggest, short yardage, thumper of a back left.

[Hooky]

Re-posting from the other thread of the same premise:

I would like Polk, Toon/McNutt, Acho. But what do I know?

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='mongo' timestamp='1335625721' post='1125604']
I want the biggest, short yardage, thumper of a back left.
[/quote]


he's not my favorite back left, but Ganaway would definitely fit the physical mold they've been sticking to the last 2 days.

[bengalbutch]

[quote name='Skilly McRailnob' timestamp='1335625214' post='1125597']
use a 5th to move up in the 4th to get Polk.
[/quote]
Maylock says half the teams have him off their board for medical reasons.(degenerative shoulder condition )

[bengalbutch]

I'd like to get Turbin or Cyrus Gray. Then use a 5th on Rainey for return man

[alleycat]

5 Picks left?

Wow.

Here are Mayock's best remaining that are most relevant:

11) L. Miller RB
16) Marvin Jones WR
18) Polk RB

I'd love to end the day with another WR2 candidate. Maybe a speedster now.

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='bengalbutch' timestamp='1335626114' post='1125613']
Maylock says half the teams have him off their board for medical reasons.(degenerative shoulder condition )
[/quote]


you sure its polk? I've read its miller that has the shoulder issue.

Or is it both?

[whodey?]

I thought someone else already started this thread.

[happyrid]

[quote name='bengalbutch' timestamp='1335626114' post='1125613']
Maylock says half the teams have him off their board for medical reasons.(degenerative shoulder condition )
[/quote]

Lamar Miller has shoulder issues also.

[|BlackJesus|]

[center][quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1335624955' post='1125589'][/center][center][size=6][b] Best Players Left on Day 3[/b][/size][/center][center][/quote][/center][center][img]http://nflmocks.com/files/2011/10/MarvinMcNutt.jpg[/img][/center][center][size=7][b]6'4[/b][/size][/center][center][size=7][b]215 lbs[/b][/size][/center][center][size=6]1,315 yds last year & 12 TD's[/size][/center][center][size=6]- First Team All-Big Ten (2011)[/size][/center][center][size=6]- Most receiving touchdowns in Iowa Hawkeye history[/size]

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[Jason]

I want another DT just to piss everyone off!

[|BlackJesus|]

[b]Trade all the 5's to come up in Rd 4 and Draft WR Marvin McNutt ... then RB Robert [color=#00FF00]"Hulk"[/color] Turbin. [/b]

[b]Then call it a day. [/b]