Jamie_B Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 [b] [color=#333333][size=3]Well I was seriously considering voting 3rd party this election due to disappointment in Obama, but the choice of Paul Ryan by Romney just pushed me back to Obama. In fact I may join up with these Nuns on a Bus. LOL[/size][/color][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 If Romney really wanted to get elected, he should have gone with Tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 [url="https://twitter.com/AP"][b]The Associated Press[/b][s]@[/s][b]AP[/b][/url] Mitt Romney stumbles in running mate announcement, introduces Paul Ryan as next president: [url="http://t.co/4QYBhprd"]http://apne.ws/QoDc4M[/url] -CJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 [url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JRLM7Jh9PnrxptafWYENXdAmxnXd4gQJMYTu3H4TFHA/edit?pli=1"]Georgetown University professors letter to Paul Ryan[/url] [color=#333333] "Your budget appears to reflect the values of your favorite philosopher, Ayn Rand, rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Her call to selfishness and her antagonism toward religion are antithetical to the Gospel values of compassion and love." [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1344688495' post='1145233'] [b] [color=#333333][size=3]Well I was seriously considering voting 3rd party this election due to disappointment in Obama, but the choice of Paul Ryan by Romney just pushed me back to Obama. In fact I may join up with these Nuns on a Bus. LOL[/size][/color][/b] [/quote] It's a choice of dumb and dumber. I guess I have to choose dumb. The choice is less clear than in any other year I can remember. Looks to be that I'll remain patient and weigh all the issues before picking the lesser of two evils.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sois Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Picking lesser is two evils is gay, pick the best dude. This is why we are stuck with only two dudes, because of that attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer_Rice Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Going around the web: Romney and Ryan = Bain and Pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='sois' timestamp='1344791394' post='1145488'] Picking lesser is two evils is gay, pick the best dude. This is why we are stuck with only two dudes, because of that attitude [/quote] Ok then lesser of three evils. Dumb, dumber, dumbest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000][b]Paul Ryan is like a doctor who sees a person with a cold eating chicken noodle soup and drinking orange juice who concludes soup and orange juice gives people colds. [/b][/color] [color=#000000][b]I’ll admit that [/b][/color][b][color=#000000]the Romney/Ryan Stepford twins look like a polished and innocent duo of bicycle riding door-to-door Mormons ... until you realize their safety net for your Great-Grandpa consists of telling him to sew Nikes. This is Gordon Gekko meets Ayn Rand. "Let them eat cake", just became "Let Granny eat dog food (or starve)". [/color][/b] [b][color=#000000]I[/color][/b][b][color=#000000]n Romney's defense though, Heinrich Himmler was already dead.[/color][/b][color=#000000] [/color][/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Saw this on the internet too [quote]Calling the Ryan plan a "budget" is like calling guillotine a surgical instrument. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [url="http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/413499/may-01-2012/paul-ryan-s-budget---thomas-reese"]Paul Ryan's "Christian" Budget Cuts[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='BlackJesus' timestamp='1344812326' post='1145564'] [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000][b]Paul Ryan is like a doctor who sees a person with a cold eating chicken noodle soup and drinking orange juice who concludes soup and orange juice gives people colds. [/b][/color] [color=#000000][b]I’ll admit that [/b][/color][b][color=#000000]the Romney/Ryan Stepford twins look like a polished and innocent duo of bicycle riding door-to-door Mormons ... until you realize their safety net for your Great-Grandpa consists of telling him to sew Nikes. This is Gordon Gekko meets Ayn Rand. "Let them eat cake", just became "Let Granny eat dog food (or starve)". [/color][/b] [color=#ff0000][b]I[/b][b]n Romney's defense though, Heinrich Himmler was already dead.[/b] [/color][/font] [/quote] I've stolen that and used it in multiple locations with great success (always disclosing that it is wholly plagiarized, mind you), so thanks. I'll by you a bottle Jagermeister some time as payment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='Numbers' timestamp='1344784375' post='1145482'] It's a choice of dumb and dumber. I guess I have to choose dumb. The choice is less clear than in any other year I can remember. Looks to be that I'll remain patient and weigh all the issues before picking the lesser of two evils.... [/quote] For me it is now a very easy one issue choice. The last time we had an Ayn Rand disciple in high levels of power he was in part responsible for this mess we are in now. (Greenspan) Ryan must be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1344818513' post='1145602'] For me it is now a very easy one issue choice. The last time we had an Ayn Rand disciple in high levels of power he was in part responsible for this mess we are in now. [b](Greenspan)[/b] Ryan must be stopped. [/quote] Thomas, Scalia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I have a distinct feeling that these two are going to get elected over Obama. Seriously. The American public has this "well, you had YOUR chance, now its time to give the other guy a chance" mentality anymore, because too many people are short-sighted and don't understand the long-term ramifications of politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='Elflocko' timestamp='1344818954' post='1145604'] Thomas, Scalia... [/quote] They perpetuate it through the citizens united ruling, but I was more referring to the economic collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='Bunghole' timestamp='1344820104' post='1145611'] I have a distinct feeling that these two are going to get elected over Obama. Seriously. The American public has this "well, you had YOUR chance, now its time to give the other guy a chance" mentality anymore, because too many people are short-sighted and don't understand the long-term ramifications of politics. [/quote] I might agree with that if he Romney had chosen a boring non-controversial candidate. Ryan unlike Palin is at least smart, but his proposals are evil. (I'm very knowingly using the word evil here, they are.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='Bunghole' timestamp='1344820104' post='1145611'] I have a distinct feeling that these two are going to get elected over Obama. Seriously. The American public has this "well, you had YOUR chance, now its time to give the other guy a chance" mentality anymore, because too many people are short-sighted and don't understand the long-term ramifications of politics. [/quote] That's what my gut is telling me as well. I'm no fan of Obama, but the thought of seeing that sociopathic simpleton in the WH is frightening. He adheres to a religious doctrine that believes in magical underpants for fuck sake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I'm voting for Monty Brewster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1344822430' post='1145636'] I'm voting for Monty Brewster! [/quote] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1344693806' post='1145260'] [url="https://twitter.com/AP"][b]The Associated Press[/b][s]@[/s][b]AP[/b][/url] Mitt Romney stumbles in running mate announcement, introduces Paul Ryan as next president: [url="http://t.co/4QYBhprd"]http://apne.ws/QoDc4M[/url] -CJ [/quote] 42 second mark. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecbhdSLRPtc[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 If I was a Republican strategist, I would be furious at this pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_6NVB3TR0[/media] Anyone want to bet Ryan has changed his mind now that he's the VP nominee? (You know seeing that Romney has enjoyed these tax shelters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Well, well, well.... [url="http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/mitt-romney-would-pay-082-percent-in-taxes-under-paul-ryans-plan/261027/"]http://www.theatlant...ns-plan/261027/[/url] [quote] [b] Mitt Romney Would Pay 0.82 Percent in Taxes Under Paul Ryan's Plan[/b] [color=#000000][font=Georgia,]Under [/font][/color][url="http://roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=8514"]Paul Ryan's plan[/url][color=#000000][font=Georgia,], Mitt Romney wouldn't pay any taxes for the next ten years -- or any of the years after that. Now, do I know that that's true. Yes, I'm certain.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Georgia,]Well, maybe not quite nothing. In 2010 -- the only year we have seen a [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/romney-2010-tax-return.html"]full return[/url] from him -- Romney would have paid an effective tax rate of around 0.82 percent under the Ryan plan, rather than the [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/25/us/politics/romneys-tax-returns-show-21-6-million-income-in-10.html?_r=1&hp"]13.9 percent[/url] he actually did. How would someone with more than $21 million in taxable income pay so little? Well, the vast majority of Romney's income came from capital gains, interest, and dividends. And Ryan wants to eliminate all taxes on capital gains, interest and dividends. [/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Georgia,]Romney, of course, [url="http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/01/romney-i-wouldnt-pay-taxes-under-newt-plan-111988.html"]criticized this idea[/url] when Newt Gingrich proposed it back in January by pointing out that zeroing out taxes on savings and investment would mean zeroing out his own taxes.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Georgia,]Almost. Romney [i]did[/i] earn $593,996 in author and speaking fees in 2010 that would still be taxed under the Ryan plan. Just not much. Ryan would cut the top marginal tax rate from 35 to 25 percent and get rid of the Alternative Minimum Tax -- saving Romney another $292,389 or so on his 2010 tax bill. Now, Romney would still owe self-employment taxes on his author and speaking fees, but that only amounts to $29,151. Add it all up, and Romney would have paid $177,650 out of a taxable income of $21,661,344, for a cool effective rate of 0.82 percent. But what about corporate taxes? Aren't they a double tax on savings and investment, so Romney's "real" rate is higher than his headline rate? No. As [url="http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/just-passing-through/"]Jared Bernstein[/url] of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities has pointed out, Romney has structured his investments as "pass-throughs" that avoid corporate tax. In other words, the 0.82 percent tax rate is really a 0.82 percent tax rate. It might seem impossible to fund the government when the super-rich pay no taxes. That is accurate. Ryan would actually [i]raise[/i] taxes on the bottom 30 percent of earners, according to the nonpartisan [url="http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?Docid=3384&DocTypeID=1"]Tax Policy Center[/url], but that hardly fills the revenue hole he would create. The solution? All but eliminate all government outside of Social Security and defense -- a point my colleague[url="http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/03/the-worst-part-of-paul-ryans-budget/254845/"]Derek Thompson[/url] has made in incredible chart form. Maybe [url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/harry-reid-romney-taxes_n_1724027.html"]Harry Reid's mysterious source[/url] that Romney didn't pay taxes for a decade was really a time-traveler from the future. If Romney wins, it could very well be true.[/font][/color] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 [b] [url="http://www.democracynow.org/2012/8/13/an_extreme_choice_embracing_ayn_rand"]"An Extreme Choice": Embracing Ayn Rand, GOP VP Pick Paul Ryan Backs Dismantling New Deal[/url][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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