2016: Obama's America --- (new "documentary")

[|BlackJesus|]

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[b][u][size=5]Anti-Obama Film, '2016: Obama's America,' Expanding Release After Notable Success[/size][/u][/b]
[i][b][size=5][size=4]The Huffington Post [/size][/size][/b][/i]
[size=4][b]By Cavan Sieczkowski [/b][/size]

The film has already shot up to the No. 2 grossing documentary of the year, and now anti-Obama project "[url="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2247692/synopsis"]2016: Obama's America,[/url]" based on "The Roots of Obama’s Rage" by conservative author Dinesh D’Souza’s, will expand nationwide this weekend.

The anti-Obama film, co-directed by D'Souza and John Sullivan and produced by Academy Award winner Gerald R. Molen, has already [url="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-anti-obama-documentary-president-election-364479"]grossed $2.1 million in 169 theaters[/url], according to the [i]Hollywood Reporter[/i]. It placed just behind "Bully," which earned $3.2 million, and currently ranks as the No. 12 political documentary of all time. For the weekend of Aug. 17, the film hit [url="http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/"]No. 13 on the overall domestic box-office chart,[/url] according to Box Office Mojo.

Come Friday, "[url="http://2016themovie.com/"]2016: Obama's America[/url]" will expand to 1,075 theaters just ahead of the Republican National Convention, which kicks off Aug. 27 in Tampa, Fla.

"I think the reason why the film is doing so well is threefold -- we've expanded into good markets, we've been advertising nationally for two weeks on talk radio and television news channels including Fox News Channel, A&E, the History Channel and MSNBC," Sullivan told [i]THR[/i].

The documentary asks the question: "If Obama wins a second term, [url="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2247692/synopsis"]where will we be in 2016[/url]?" The film analyzes D'Souza's theory that Obama is wholly influenced by his past and his father's "anticolonial" ideals.
The official synopsis, via IMDb, reads:
[indent=1]Immersed in exotic locales across four continents, best selling author Dinesh D'Souza races against time to find answers to Obama's past and reveal where America will be in 2016. During this journey he discovers how hope and change became radically misunderstood, and identifies new flashpoints for hot wars in mankind's greatest struggle. The journey moves quickly over the arc of the old colonial empires into America's empire of liberty, and we see the unfolding realignment of nations and the shape of the global future.[/indent]

Both D'Souza's book and the film use quotes from Obama's "Dreams From My Father" to back up purported claims.

The [url="http://movies.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/movies/2016-obamas-america-by-dinesh-dsouza.html?adxnnl=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1345503867-Na0aWKyHEthbzCEWNFxmBA"]anti-Obama film has not garnered much response[/url] from mainstream movie critics, except for a few pointed reviews.

Andy Webster of [i]The New York Times[/i] describes how D'Souza "argues that the president has emasculated NASA, refused to take a 'meaningful step' against Iran’s nuclear ambitions and is willing to let Argentina reclaim the Falkland Islands from the British." The co-director might have interviewed Obama's half brother, George, who lives in Kenya, but he did not interview any Obama supporters.

"Not interviewed by the filmmakers are Obama’s political supporters, but this isn’t that kind of documentary," wrote Weber. "At a show on Saturday night, the film’s conclusion was met with claps and cries of 'Romney!,' 'Ron Paul!,' 'Reagan!' and 'Another Reagan!'"

Slate's David Weigel [url="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/07/dinesh_d_souza_new_movie_2016_obama_s_america_looks_to_uncover_barack_obama_s_deep_and_hidden_socialist_and_communist_roots_.single.html"]reviewed it as "mostly solid,"[/url] highlighting how D'Souza does not drown in conservative conspiracy theories. "The movie is really too good to get pedantic about," he wrote. "There are no conspiracy theories about Obama’s birth, religion, Social Security number, passport, or college transcript. Instead, there is a deep dive into Barack Obama’s known Communist associates, his late father’s avowed socialism, and his mother’s radicalism."

[i]Variety's[/i] Joe Leydon critiqued the opposite, writing that "for the bulk of its running time, the pic comes off as a cavalcade of conspiracy theories, psycho-politico conjectures and incendiary labeling." [url="http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947988?refcatid=31"]Leydon did admit, however, that it is "attention-grabbing."[/url]

[url="http://www.altfg.com/blog/movie/2016-americas-obama-movie-box-office/"]With a budget of $2.5 million[/url], the documentary has yet to break even after six weekends. Despite climbing the box office ranks, "2016: Obama's America" is no blockbuster yet.
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[|BlackJesus|]

[b]Since I was the essay winner for my Economics department I actually got to have lunch with Danesh D'Souza as an undergrad back in 2003, when I was much more to the right politically. I talked to him for about an hour. He certainly wasn't dumb, although I remember [i](even then)[/i] thinking how clouded he was with the "I'm so thankful to be in the awesome land of America". I remember him specifically telling me that he was convinced as a child that America was the best because here our poor people are fat, unlike in most of the world.[/b]

[b][color=#0000FF]As for this film[/color], I actually will go see it, because I am hoping that at least some of it is true.[color=#0000FF] I'd love it if Obama were even 1/10 the amount of things that the right-wing thinks he is.[/color] Sadly, imo, he is much more a Wall Street centrist than any kind of anti-colonial Marxist as D'Souza believes. Raising the top rate from 36 % back to 39 % as it was in the 90's is not exactly the second coming of Lenin ... especially when the top rate was 90 % under Republican Eisenhower in the 1950's. [/b]

[b]Could Obama have some radical anti-imperialist secret plan to alter American-capitalism if elected in 2012 and dismantle our neocolonial empire around the globe ? ... some of us could only dream. [/b]

[|BlackJesus|]

[b]Ironically, since the focus is on Fathers ... I wonder if D'Souza will be making a Part II on how [color=#FF0000]Romney's father was born in Mexico[/color]? Does Mitt carry some pinata Zapata-induced rage for sombreros that we don't know about? [/b]

[|BlackJesus|]

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[center][b][size=5]P.S. - How long till the Tea Partiers realize that George Washington, [/size][/b][/center]
[center][b][size=5]Thomas Jefferson etc were all [color=#666600]anti-colonialists[/color] ?[/size][/b][/center]

[Jamie_B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuCqtJR6vU

[Go Skins]

DC got this movie today.....didn't get too highly rated in The Washington Post.

[Jamie_B]

Pleads Guilty in a campaign finance scheme faces jail-time 

[HairOnFire]

I guess D'Souza can now add felon to his resume.

 

Not that I think it'll matter.

 

It may even serve him well in conservative circles where it's become commonplace to pick and choose which of our nations laws are worthy of being followed.

[T-Dub]

Strange that he'd spend so much time crafting his arguments when "NOBAMA IS A SHAPE-SHIFTING REPTILE ALIEN!!" would probably do just as well at the box office..  Hell, probably better.

[Khatmandude]

I hate partisanship and this is exactly what D'Souza was to playing here.  Not that I'd defend Obama, he's a douchebag of the highest order.   I think the only people who still support the lying asshole are people who can't see the 'substance' beyond the skin color.  

[CincyInDC]

I begrudgingly support him because the alternative seems so much worse.  But that's the rub, isn't it?

 

:-\

[Jamie_B]

I begrudgingly support him because the alternative seems so much worse.  But that's the rub, isn't it?

 

:-\

 

 

x2

[big_dish]

I hate partisanship and this is exactly what D'Souza was to playing here.  Not that I'd defend Obama, he's a douchebag of the highest order.   I think the only people who still support the lying asshole are people who can't see the 'substance' beyond the skin color.  

Yep

 

I begrudgingly support him because the alternative seems so much worse.  But that's the rub, isn't it?

 

:-\

Thats the worst thing about the two party system... there are no viable alternatives. What bothers me most isnt that people "support" the lesser of two evils, its that they rally around one or the other and refuse to criticize the failures of "their guy/party" and act like whomever it is is doing a great job. The country would be a lot less divided if people from both sides would stop protecting their guys like they are god-sent, and actually tell it like it is. Our government is full of scoundrels, and they'll never get removed because 90% of the people of either given party are generally too afraid to risk "their guy" being put on blast and held accountable.

[T-Dub]

BENGHAZI !!!  NEVAR FORGIT!

[big_dish]

BENGHAZI !!!  NEVAR FORGIT!

Making fun of the deaths of former SEALS and the ambassador they were guarding, as well as ignoring the lies and political posturing by the administration is pretty sad, even for someone like you. Want to make fun of the 6 soldiers that died trying rescue Bowe Berdahl? What about the sailors that died on the USS Cole in Yemen? You could make fun of the night stalkers and SEALs that died in operation Red Wings while you're at it.

This is exactly what I mean about people propping up "their guy" even when it's been proven there were lies and coverups committed, such as Benghazi. Would be nice if people were more concerned with addressing the wretched state of American political machines, and less about whether their fantasy politician got them enough points that week. The way that some
Citizens believe they are on team democrat or team republican is scary- and a big reason this country is a total political clusterfuck.

[BengalBacker]

Making fun of the deaths of former SEALS and the ambassador they were guarding, as well as ignoring the lies and political posturing by the administration is pretty sad, even for someone like you. Want to make fun of the 6 soldiers that died trying rescue Bowe Berdahl? What about the sailors that died on the USS Cole in Yemen? You could make fun of the night stalkers and SEALs that died in operation Red Wings while you're at it.

This is exactly what I mean about people propping up "their guy" even when it's been proven there were lies and coverups committed, such as Benghazi. Would be nice if people were more concerned with addressing the wretched state of American political machines, and less about whether their fantasy politician got them enough points that week. The way that some
Citizens believe they are on team democrat or team republican is scary- and a big reason this country is a total political clusterfuck.

 

 

Not jumping back into the fray in here other than to say plus a million, and to say it's pretty telling that there has been no discussion in here of the VA problems, the Bergdahl exchange, Benghazi, other than to ridicule anyone who thinks it matters. I could go on, but I'm done.

[CincyInDC]

I'm pretty sure T-Dub was making fun of the conservatives who simply won't stop erupting in outrage over Benghazi, even after how many investigations?

 

I and several others on here don't give Obama a pass on a lot of the horseshit that we see going on.

 

We also don't froth up with rage over shit like Benghazi.  Call it the cost of doing business; this is the unending War on Terror we were promised in 2001.  You expected anything different?

[Jamie_B]

 

 

Not jumping back into the fray in here other than to say plus a million, and to say it's pretty telling that there has been no discussion in here of the VA problems, the Bergdahl exchange, Benghazi, other than to ridicule anyone who thinks it matters. I could go on, but I'm done.

 

 

There is a story I read as a kid called "The boy who cried wolf" I'm sure you read it too so I don't really have to go into the details of the story.

 

The moral of it though applies.

 

When people spent so much of their time going on and on about "socalism" or the birth certificate or his college records, or him being a muslim ad nausium and when none of those things we're even remotely true, any other contraversy legatmate or not (and I dont think all of the one's you listed are) gets whitewashed to a degree because of mouth breathers that ruined it for everyone.

 

There are legitimate criticisms about Obama, mostly regarding his close ties to the FIRE section of our economy.

 

Benghazi, something that will continue to happen when you put Americans in places that they are not wanted, is not one of them. Trusting your intelligence community is something every president does, and when they give you incorrect info sometimes things get out that are incorrect (the whole anti-muslim movie thing)

 

The VA is a problem but nobody here really wants to address the truth on it. And that truth is when you go to war you are going to get soliders coming back needing medical care which means as the war winds down money spent on the VA should go up, not cuts (14 Billion in 2003, right at a time when we should be looking to ramp up for soldiers coming back from the war)

 

The Bergdahl exchange is incredablly weird as I see some saying he just walked away from the unit (how does anyone do that?) and some saying they fought to get him back to people accusing him of being a traitor to people saying he had stockholm syndrom. I am withholding judgement on this one because there is so much out there in the either that makes it hard to determine exactly what happened

[Go Skins]

 

One of my friends posted that on FB today. 

[Jamie_B]

I hope they try to impeach I remember the last time they impeached it ruined their party for several years. It would do the same again

 

then maybe we could get some stuff done

[Homer_Rice]

I see someone is still having a self-pity party.

 

Making fun of the deaths of former SEALS and the ambassador they were guarding, as well as ignoring the lies and political posturing by the administration is pretty sad, even for someone like you. Want to make fun of the 6 soldiers that died trying rescue Bowe Berdahl? What about the sailors that died on the USS Cole in Yemen? You could make fun of the night stalkers and SEALs that died in operation Red Wings while you're at it.

This is exactly what I mean about people propping up "their guy" even when it's been proven there were lies and coverups committed, such as Benghazi. Would be nice if people were more concerned with addressing the wretched state of American political machines, and less about whether their fantasy politician got them enough points that week. The way that some
Citizens believe they are on team democrat or team republican is scary- and a big reason this country is a total political clusterfuck.

Except he is not making fun of that, nor of the other tragic events you mention. As CincyInDC suggests, what T-Dub is lampooning is the sheer idiocy of the politically motivated sham assaults on the administration. While I am a card-carrying member of "team-radical-quasi-pinko" I really wish there were better critiques of the current admin coming from the other side.

 

There are a couple of reasons that those critiques are so idiotic, beyond the general dumb-assery of that constituency. The first reason is that the modus operandi of the modern conservative movement is firmly anchored to pandering to modern day "Know-Nothings." That's where the votes come from and that was a conscious choice made by the Republican party back when Nixon decided to build a winning political coalition by co-opting the disgruntled members of the southern Democratic coalition, including both the southern elite and its rank and file. In order to keep that coalition alive, the Republican party has had to embrace a slew of unwholesome philosophical and policy positions. The good news is that coalition is doomed to fall apart from the inherent internal tensions of trying to create a modern-day Know Nothing party. It'll just take some time.

 

The second, and imo, most salient reason that current critiques from the so-called right of this admin are so vapid and full of douchebaggery nonsense is that viable, actual and genuinely substantial policy criticisms of the Obama administration would require a long, hard look in the mirror by the right. To wit:

 

1) Obama has been co-opted by the financial elite. Hence the lack of any real reform of the financial system, including the lack of vigorous prosecution of those corporations and individuals which brought this country to its knees in 2007. Those policies originate with the Republicans as far back as the early 70s.

 

2) Obama's foreign policy is right out of the military-industrial complex playbook. It's shameful. It, too, has the broadest support from the Republican party though it is fair to say that the Democratic party has always had a locus of influence which is hard-line military (see Scoop Jackson, et al.)

 

There is more specific criticism which could be made against this admin, but again, in many cases one would find Republican roots at the base of the new "moderate-right-leaning Democratic party." The response to housing issues and employment issues fall into this category.

 

So when one hears shrieking voices about "socialism" or other claptrap coming from the most loudmouth critics of this admin, one can be sure of this: It's either a case of a knowing, elite member of the "right" telling lies which obfuscate any real policy critiques of this admin, or it's an unknowing member of the Romper Room crowd--which is both at the base of the Republican party and also the target of those lies coming from their more knowledgeable manipulators--repeating such silliness, only in a high-pitched, girly voice.

 

Makes real political discourse kind of difficult, doncha think?

[CincyInDC]

Romper Room.  Now that takes me back...

 

  :thumbsup:

[T-Dub]

[|RayDoggBengal|]

 

One of my friends posted that on FB today. 

 

Not going to get into pointing out the false information here because anyone who watches any news other the fox knows congress was briefed.

 

My only questions is does your friend support impeaching Bush for lying us into a war?  And to explain how American is being sold out?  I hear this statement but never hear any examples of what has been sold.

[Go Skins]

 

 

One of my friends posted that on FB today. 

 

Not going to get into pointing out the false information here because anyone who watches any news other the fox knows congress was briefed.

 

My only questions is does your friend support impeaching Bush for lying us into a war?  And to explain how American is being sold out?  I hear this statement but never hear any examples of what has been sold.

 

 

He is against Obama on every little thing, it's to the point that it's laughable. 

Honestly, I am not sure what my friend knows what the word research means (I worked with him for a long time, and was never that impressed).