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Semi venting or speculating and this is intended to be completely neutral (now there's a surprise considering the way the Nation is today) but a couple of things get me:

1) I cannot recall the Nation, every individual, being so wrapped up and involved in politics as they are today. No other presidential election has grabbed every person so strongly one way or the other as this one.

2) For all the blahblahblah and give and take, no one seems to be changing sides, so to speak. Everyone backs their chosen candidate all the way and does not waiver no matter what. Everything and everybody is firmly entrenched and has blinders as far as anything said or done by the other guy. Regardless of what is said, the other guy is a lying fuck wit set on destroying the country.

3) I wonder about the ramifications after the election no matter who ends up as Pres. The way things are now I do not see how anyone who voted for the other guy will be able to accept the guy who is in.

But... on a personal level, good wishes to all no matter whom you support.
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Semi venting or speculating and this is intended to be completely neutral (now there's a surprise considering the way the Nation is today) but a couple of things get me:

1) I cannot recall the Nation, every individual, being so wrapped up and involved in politics as they are today. No other presidential election has grabbed every person so strongly one way or the other as this one.

2) For all the blahblahblah and give and take, no one seems to be changing sides, so to speak. [b]Everyone backs their chosen candidate all the way and does not waiver no matter what.[/b] Everything and everybody is firmly entrenched and has blinders as far as anything said or done by the other guy. Regardless of what is said, the other guy is a lying fuck wit set on destroying the country.

3) I wonder about the ramifications after the election no matter who ends up as Pres. [b]The way things are now I do not see how anyone who voted for the other guy will be able to accept the guy who is in.[/b]

But... on a personal level, good wishes to all no matter whom you support.
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2. I'm still for sale.

3. It seemed worse last time. Stormfront almost melted down.
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[quote name='High School Harry' timestamp='1346851906' post='1154605']
Semi venting or speculating and this is intended to be completely neutral (now there's a surprise considering the way the Nation is today) but a couple of things get me:

1) I cannot recall the Nation, every individual, being so wrapped up and involved in politics as they are today. No other presidential election has grabbed every person so strongly one way or the other as this one.[/quote]

Not really true, although for some it may seem like it. Exhibit A: the 1860 election

[quote]2) For all the blahblahblah and give and take, no one seems to be changing sides, so to speak. Everyone backs their chosen candidate all the way and does not waiver no matter what. Everything and everybody is firmly entrenched and has blinders as far as anything said or done by the other guy. Regardless of what is said, the other guy is a lying fuck wit set on destroying the country.[/quote]

Fuck wits abound in both parties. Exhibit B: Reps treatment of Ron Paul last week. Exhibit C: The way the Dems railroaded the "Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel" plank into their platform today.

[quote]3) I wonder about the ramifications after the election no matter who ends up as Pres. The way things are now I do not see how anyone who voted for the other guy will be able to accept the guy who is in.[/quote]

Not really the right question here; turn it around: "What sort of likely events are on the horizon and how would each party respond to them?" The economy will hit the next phase of its systemic breakdown during the next four years. To be honest, I'm not confident in either parties willingness to actually fix the problems that will arise and be compounded by the next blowout (which will be worse than 2008.) The Dems have had 4 years to push through necessary reforms like a return to Glass-Steagall, etc... and haven't done it. And of course, the Repubs will never do something necessary like that.

So, BOHICA, no matter which way this election goes.
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3) I wonder about the ramifications after the election no matter who ends up as Pres. The way things are now I do not see how anyone who voted for the other guy will be able to accept the guy who is in.
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Somewhat OT but it's shocking to me how much talk of sedition/revolution etc has come from otherwise semi-respectable people, some of them even in government themselves. It's a little sickening to me to see it tolerated, honestly. Whatever you may think about Obama, he is the duly elected President of the United States, by a clear majority even - unlike the guy before him, who they want you to forget absolutely bankrupted this country to make his pals even richer. Yet if people had been openly talking that sort of armed insurrection shit about Bush they'd have been down in Gitmo getting raped by rottweilers. They try to act like it has something to do with "liberty" & Obama's policies etc but the fact is it's about race. We've had much more liberal presidents without that kind of talk entering the mainstream. There's a part of me that hopes if & when Obama wins, these kook-ass militia types do try some shit so they can be exposed & rooted out to join all the other bigoted failures of history.
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[quote name='High School Harry' timestamp='1346851906' post='1154605']
Semi venting or speculating and this is intended to be completely neutral (now there's a surprise considering the way the Nation is today) but a couple of things get me:

1) I cannot recall the Nation, every individual, being so wrapped up and involved in politics as they are today. No other presidential election has grabbed every person so strongly one way or the other as this one.

2) For all the blahblahblah and give and take, no one seems to be changing sides, so to speak. Everyone backs their chosen candidate all the way and does not waiver no matter what. Everything and everybody is firmly entrenched and has blinders as far as anything said or done by the other guy. Regardless of what is said, the other guy is a lying fuck wit set on destroying the country.

3) I wonder about the ramifications after the election no matter who ends up as Pres. The way things are now I do not see how anyone who voted for the other guy will be able to accept the guy who is in.

But... on a personal level, good wishes to all no matter whom you support.
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I have changed sides but it was not that far a walk for me... the Republicans have just gone way too far right for me...
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I have changed sides but it was not that far a walk for me... the Republicans have just gone way too far right for me...
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When they start attacking the public service employees my cousin who is a cop and a big republican has moved away from them too, but just isnt on board with obama either, i'll be surprised if he votes
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Looks like Obama [url="http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-help-us-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of,29478/"]hit a home run[/url]...


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The president calls for his ultraliberal minions to join him in the godless slaughter of Jesus Christ and the advancement of eternal sin.



CHARLOTTE, NC—With the savage roar of the heathen Democratic horde rising all around him, President Barack Obama delivered an incendiary speech to close his party’s national convention Thursday night, commanding the ultraprogressive minions in attendance to help him “destroy Jesus and usher in a new age of liberal darkness that shall reign o’er the earth for a thousand years.”

The thunderous 45-minute address—during which the president argued for a second term so that he could “finally kill Jesus once and for all, as well as all those who worship him”—was well received by the frenzied, wild-eyed audience, whose piercing chants of “Four more years!” and “Slaughter the believers!” echoed throughout the Time Warner Cable Arena.

“My fellow Americans and godless infidels, I command you to join me as we cast an endless pall of far-left evil across the hills and valleys of our nation!” Obama bellowed from the stage, as thousands in attendance moaned in compliance and gyrated their hips and groins in a lascivious dance. “Together, as a barbarian people forged by the wicked flames of irreligiosity and united by visions of a liberal dystopia, we will rise up as one to scorch the earth with boundless amorality.”

“The streets shall run red with the blood of forced sodomy, performed daily upon every American man, woman, and child!” the commander-in-chief shouted, froth forming around his mouth as the crowd threw hundreds of aborted fetuses onto the stage. “Die, Christians, die!”

Slamming his fists on the lectern until his hands began to bleed, Obama proceeded to lay out a “three-point plan of sin and lechery” for his second term. If reelected, the president said, he would begin by banning organized religion entirely—starting with Christianity—and burning all churches to the ground, preferably “with their wretched, Jesus-loving congregants still huddled inside like rats.”

As members of the audience violently tugged at their genitals and howled like sex-starved, atheist wolves, Obama stated that his administration would then seek to make free, taxpayer-funded abortions legal at any stage of pregnancy, even up to one full year after birth, in order to supply his newly created “federal stem-cell harvesting plants” with raw materials.

In addition, the cackling president vowed to “end traditional marriage as we know it” by passing legislation that would allow only homosexuals to raise children, a longtime Democratic policy goal.

“A glorious new age of sinister, unconstrained liberalism is dawning! Oh, dear Satan, I can feel it coursing through my veins at this very moment!” shrieked Obama, ripping off his shirt to reveal an ornate tattoo of a pentagram, with a different homosexual act positioned at each of the star’s five points. “Agnosticism, contempt for human life, and radical sexual experimentation shall rule the day! Any good, virtuous, family-values-oriented Christian Americans who seek to topple our magnificent liberal kingdom of eternal darkness will be powerless to stop us! We will crush them!”

Added Obama, “Thank you, may Satan reward you all, and may God tremble in fear at the United States of America!”

The president was then handed an unbaptized, orphaned newborn baby drenched in the blood of 666 slaughtered Christians, which he handed over to its new, gleefully squealing homosexual parents.[img]http://www.theonion.com/static/onion/img/icons/terminator.gif[/img]

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