US Policy on Sexual Humiliation for Detainees

[Guest BlackJesus]

[color="red"][i][b]Ok we have all debated at length what "torture" is and whether US prisoners have any rights. However, I personally find the way that the US military is using "sexual disgrace" to get information from detainees to not only be shameful, but very counter productive. The result of this humiliation is it justifys those who call the US immoral invaders who want to bring our over sexed society to their land. The sexual humiliation that the US does on Muslim men would be the cultural equivalent of forcing men to have sex with children here in the US... it is probably the worst thing that can be done to these prisoners... For a course I had to read the below report and one part caught my attention as being especially disturbing...


Physicians for Human Rights recently compiled a 131 page report on the systematic use of psycological tortue by US Forces... the report in its entirety here at this link[/b][/i][/color]
[img]http://www.phrusa.org/research/torture/i/psych_torture.jpg[/img]
[url="http://www.phrusa.org/research/torture/pdf/psych_torture.pdf"]http://www.phrusa.org/research/torture/pdf/psych_torture.pdf[/url]


[color="red"][i][b]One of the areas of the report that I found disturbing is the section on Sexual Humiliation that the US govt is now enacting in its detention facilities. Below are the excerpts from the report on that topic....[/b][/i][/color]


[quote][u]Severe Sexual and Cultural Humiliation[/u]

The use of humiliation as a means of breaking down the resistance of detainees, including forced nudity and forced grooming, began when the “war on terror” began. In 2002, reports from Afghanistan revealed that detainees were being stripped and photographed “in shameful and obscene positions” or touched inappropriately by female interrogators. Detainees held at Kandahar, Afghanistan in 2002 say they underwent forced grooming and forced cavity searches, which they believe were meant to humiliate them. Detainees held in 2003 and 2004 similarly report being subjected to forced nudity and sexual humiliation. At Guantánamo, detainees’ accounts of forced nudity and sexual humiliation were confirmed by FBI reports. An FBI letter to an Army official states that during late 2002 an agent witnessed a female interrogator at Guantánamo rubbing lotion on a detainee’s arms during Ramadan, when Federal Bureau of Investigation. Memorandum from Inspection. To Inspection. “physical contact with a woman would have been particularly offensive to a Moslem male.” News reports confirmed that the use of female interrogators violating Muslim taboos regarding sex and contact with women occurred at Guantánamo in 2003 as well. These accounts were confirmed to PHR by a source familiar with conditions there. According to the source, in 2003 female interrogators used sexually provocative  acts as part of interrogation. [b]For example, female interrogators sat on detainees’ laps and fondled themselves or detainees, opened their blouses and pushed their breasts in the faces of detainees, opened their skirts, kissed detainees and if rejected, accused them of liking men, and forced detainees to look at pornographic pictures or videos[/b]. Although the use of female interrogators appeared to decline in 2004, a source told PHR that humiliation and violation of cultural and religious taboos, including forced shaving, persisted. Humiliation of detainees was pervasive at Abu Ghraib. According to the Fay report, “[Military Intelligence] interrogators started directing nakedness at Abu Ghraib as early as 16 September 2003 to humiliate and break down detainees.” Forced nudity was used not as a punishment, nor as an exception, but as an accepted method of interrogation. One captain interviewed by Maj. Gen. Taguba said that when he questioned the use of nudity at the prison, he was told “it’s an interrogation method that we use.” Statements taken by General Fay from soldiers who worked at Abu Ghraib confirm the pervasive use of nudity. [b]Detainees at Abu Ghraib also were forced to wear women’s underwear and forced to assume sexually degrading positions.[/b] One soldier told General Taguba, “During my tour at the prison I observed that when the male detainees were first brought to the facility, some of them were made to wear female underwear, which I think was to somehow break them down.” It is important to note that the very extreme forms of sexual humiliation seen in the photographs at Abu Ghraib were not routine. But the very pervasiveness and commonality of the use of forced nudity and other forms of sexual humiliation not only led to the more extreme abuses but created an environment in which even more extreme forms of humiliation and abuse were likely not seen as such. The humiliation of detainees well documented at Abu Ghraib in 2003 was not isolated to that detention facility. The ICRC, in visits to other detention facilities in Iraq in 2003, found that “being paraded naked outside cells in front of other persons deprived of their liberty, and guards, sometimes hooded or with women's underwear over their head” and “[a]cts of humiliation such as being made to stand naked against the wall of the cell with . . . women's underwear over the head for prolonged periods--while being laughed at by guards, including female guards, and sometimes photographed in this position” were among the methods of illtreatment most frequently alleged during interrogation.[/quote]


[quote]Sexual Humiliation

According to clinicians at the Minnesota-based Center for Victims of Torture (CVT), forced nakedness is intended to create a power differential between detainees and interrogators by stripping the victim of his/her identity, inducing immediate shame, and establishing an environment where the threat of sexual and physical assault is always present. By denying the victim the most basic forms of decency and privacy, forced nudity conveys the message that interrogators have absolute control over the detainees’ bodies and can do as they please. Implied in the context of forced nudity is the threat of other, more abusive violations, whether sexual or physical. There is evidence that US personnel directed sexual humiliation toward detainees because they knew that Arabs are particularly vulnerable to sexual humiliation and sought to exploit that vulnerability. Clinicians at the Center for the Treatment of Torture Victims in Berlin, Germany (Berlin Center), who treat a large population of Muslims, have found that Muslim victims of sexual torture forever carry a stigma and will often be ostracized by the community. They have found that male victims often feel degraded in their manhood, especially if the perpetrator was a woman. They have seen marriages and families break up due to the special concept of honor and dignity in Muslim culture that is violated by sexual torture. With respect to forced nudity, the Berlin Center clinicians have found that merely being stripped naked implies the breaking
of a strict taboo, which leaves victims feeling extremely exposed and humiliated.83
Erik R. Saar, a translator at Guantánamo from December 2002 to June 2003, wrote that after interrogation sessions, [b]some of which included women interrogators telling detainees they were menstruating and then touching the detainees, the water in the detainee’s cell would be turned off so that the detainee could not wash himself. This was done in order to “make the detainee feel that, after talking to [the female interrogator], he was unclean and was unable to go before his God in prayer and gain strength.”[/b]

Staff members at CVT say that sexual humiliation often leads to symptoms of PTSD and major depression, and that victims often relive the session of humiliation in the form of flashbacks and nightmares long after their detention. In fact, many of their clients who have been sexually humiliated report that their most enduring and disabling symptoms are related to reliving memories of the voices of their torturers using sexually degrading insults or threats. Clinicians at the Berlin Center similarly have found that victims of sexual torture often suffer from severe depression, anxiety, depersonalization, dissociative states, complex posttraumatic stress disorder, and multiple physical complaints such as chronic headaches, eating disorders, and digestive problems. They also have found that suicides may occur unless a strong religious conviction forbids otherwise.[/quote]

[color="red"][i][b]this behavior I beieve is unnecessary... and damaging because many of these men then are released.... to tell others of their treatment which enrages the population to blow themselves up over the worst of crimes.... sexual humiliation.[/b][/i][/color]


The result of these Practices is seen in these pictures and depictions..... Is this what the "Rule of Law looks like" ????


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The result
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[img]http://www.uruknet.info/uruknet-images/abuse%20scandal.jpeg[/img]

[b]We enrage those that may have been ready to accept the US presence[/b]

[|Bunghole|]

Jesus Christ is now masturbating....

At least He isn't Fucking Christ....

[bigfeet4real]

i know hate my country even more........

[|Bunghole|]

I hate those that wish to kill us. I do not wish to get all "touchy-feely" about the whys, the wheres or the whens about how the USA actively cultivates terrorism.
I just want to kill it. We shook the hand of the Devil and confront the later consequences.
For whatever symposium of reasons, some of which are valid and some of which are horseshit, we find ourselves in our first ideological war that actually has consequences beyond ideology.
My take is fuck those that wish harm upon us, because it isn't our fault that their life sucks so badly.
Kill them all.

[Guest The Carson Show]

i agree that is fucked up shit
but they are treated way better than an american prisoner would be if they had one

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]I hate those that wish to kill us.  I do not wish to get all "touchy-feely" about the whys, the wheres or the whens about how the USA actively cultivates terrorism.[/quote]

[i][b]this behavior creates more people that then want to kill us.... can you not see that ?

it is possible to detain someone and not degrade them, by having menstrating women rub on them, sticking things in their ass, stacking them in Homo sex, etc etc [/b][/i]

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]i agree that is fucked up shit
but they are treated way better than an american prisoner would be if they had one[/quote]

[i][b]why is the way the people we call "terrorists" and "evil" would treat people are barameter ? The barameter should be a basic understanding of dignity towards someone else. And finding the worst cultural taboo in an area (nudity, in the middle east) and attempting to exploit it only makes the US look "evil", rediculous, and the exact epitome of what those crazy clerics say we are when they are recruiting suicide bombers. [/b][/i]


[img]http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20040507/cartoon20040507.gif[/img]

[Guest The Carson Show]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Jul 14 2005, 01:16 AM'][i][b]why is the way the people we call "terrorists" and "evil" would treat people are barameter ?  The barameter should be a basic understanding of dignity towards someone else.  And finding the worst cultural taboo in an area (nudity, in the middle east) and attempting to exploit it only makes the US look "evil", rediculous, and the exact epitome of what those crazy clerics say we are when they are recruiting suicide bombers.  [/b][/i]
[img]http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20040507/cartoon20040507.gif[/img]
[right][post="114300"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote]
so do u think the US broke the geneva convention??

[sean]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Jul 14 2005, 01:13 AM'][i][b]this behavior creates more people that then want to kill us.... can you not see that ?

it is possible to detain someone and not degrade them, by having menstrating women rub on them, sticking things in their ass, stacking them in Homo sex, etc etc [/b][/i]
[right][post="114299"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote]

You are actually worried about what the enemy in a war thinks of us?

<sarcasm>
Don't be mean to the enemy, they may not like us after that. You may make them angrier and give them a recruiting tool. Don't mentally break down these prisoners of WAR in order to get information. They should be treated like an average prisoner in our penal system.

Better yet we shouldn't even detain them at all. After all we are the evil empire that uses up the worlds resources. We're the infidels that allow our womens faces to be seen. We're the ones who (gasp) cut our facial hair. We should let them participate in suicide bombings because that would be a much more acceptible fate for them. After all, they will die in the bombing.
</sarcasm>

Did the Geneva Convention prohibit the mental breakdown of prisoners by using cultural and religious taboos against them for the purpose of interrogation?


On a side note, do you believe that Saddam should have been removed from power?
Regardless of whether we put him there in the first place. We put Bush in power and you think he should be removed. Why not Saddam? When would his thumbing his nose at the world been enough? Bush thumbs his nose at the world and he is an evil dictator that should be removed.

When Bush started bombing Iraq early does that coincide with Saddams quasi cooperation with the U.N. inspections? Did the bombings cause him to say" I was just kidding . I won't interfere anymore" ?

We were already in that part of the world chasing Bin Laden . I guess we tryed to kill two birds with one stone.

[Guest bengalrick]

NWS

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]You are actually worried about what the enemy in a war thinks of us?[/quote]

[i][b]No I am worried about what are potential allies in the Middle East who will now be "turned into" enemies think of us[/b][/i]


[quote]Don't be mean to the enemy, they may not like us after that. You may make them angrier and give them a recruiting tool.[/quote]

[i][b]Idiotic behavior like this makes moderate muslims angry because it is seen as the ultimate taboo. How would you feel if China invaded the US to "liberate" us and then while talking of freeing us from our former dictator, started making our citizens have sex with children ... a taboo just as strong here as male homesexuality is there.[/b][/i]

[quote]Don't mentally break down these prisoners of WAR in order to get information. They should be treated like an average prisoner in our penal system.[/quote]

[i][b]How idiotic is this shit, the men at Abu Ghraib have all mostly been released, and were run of the mill prisoners. These were not high value detainees, but believe me they are surely signed up to bomb the US now[/b][/i]


[quote]Better yet we shouldn't even detain them at all. After all we are the evil empire that uses up the worlds resources. We're the infidels that allow our womens faces to be seen. We're the ones who (gasp) cut our facial hair. We should let them participate in suicide bombings because that would be a much more acceptible fate for them. After all, they will die in the bombing.[/quote]

[i][b]Thanks for for showing your immaturity, ignorance, stupidity, and complete lack of brain function. We can detain them... what is so wrong with detaining them, placing them in small cells, and not giving them any amenities. We don't need to find the US sluts in the army to come rub vagina juice on them, or that little stupid fucking midget to walk around with a dog collar on them[/b][/i]


[quote]Did the Geneva Convention prohibit the mental breakdown of prisoners by using cultural and religious taboos against them for the purpose of interrogation?[/quote]

[i][b]Yes, go read it [/b][/i]


[quote]On a side note, do you believe that Saddam should have been removed from power?
Regardless of whether we put him there in the first place. We put Bush in power and you think he should be removed. Why not Saddam?[/quote]

[i][b]Saddam should have been removed.... By his own people, just like our own people should remove Bush. Us claiming that we should remove Saddam, would be like Saudi Arabia claiming they should remove Bush. [/b][/i]

[Guest The Carson Show]

[quote]Saddam should have been removed.... [b]By his own people, just like our own people should remove Bush[/b]. Us claiming that we should remove Saddam, would be like Saudi Arabia claiming they should remove Bush.[/quote]
there was no way in hell the iraqis would have been able to remove saddam from power
and if there was they would have done it a long time ago

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]there was no way in hell the iraqis would have been able to remove saddam from power
and if there was they would have done it a long time ago[/quote]


[i][b]In 1991 after the first Gulf War, the Kurds in the North were prepared to rise up against Saddam after Bush Sr. told them that if they did they would recieve assistance from America, they rose up, Bush Sr. jacked off his son and did nothing, and thousands were killed. There were over 50,000 Peshmerga prepared to begin war to topple Saddam, but America who allied with Saddam for much of his time in Power supported his reign because he was seen as a more secular dictator rather than a religious one. Don't make claims that you have not researched [/b][/i]

[Guest bengalrick]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Jul 14 2005, 12:07 PM'][i][b]In 1991 after the first Gulf War, the Kurds in the North were prepared to rise up against Saddam after Bush Sr. told them that if they did they would recieve assistance from America, they rose up, Bush Sr. jacked off his son and did nothing, and thousands were killed.  There were over 50,000 Peshmerga prepared to begin war to topple Saddam, but America who allied with Saddam for much of his time in Power supported his reign because he was seen as a more secular dictator rather than a religious one.  Don't make claims that you have not researched [/b][/i]
[right][post="114417"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote]

so they COULDN'T stand up and do it their selves?? you just said that is what we should have waited for...

btw, i agree that saddam should have been taken out in 91, but that shouldn't stop us from helping them out now...

we are dealing w/ guys that cut our heads off, and you are pissed b/c detainees have to wear bras and have tits rubbed in their face... i'm getting tired of all this shit...

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]we are dealing w/ guys that cut our heads off, and you are pissed b/c detainees have to wear bras and have tits rubbed in their face... i'm getting tired of all this shit...[/quote]

[i][b]Have you ever thought that maybe they are cutting heads off because we are rubbing tits in their fellow muslims faces[/b][/i]

[Guest BlackJesus]

[img]http://www.signonsandiego.com/gallery/albums/Abu_Ghraib_prison_abuses/beat.jpg[/img]

[i][b]also the asshole US troops doing the shit in the pictures above.... are a fucking disgrace .... If I was in charge they would be handed over to the Insurgents for some return medicine....way to show honor under the guise of the uniform, lets look like some fucking buffoons, stack naked bodies, and rub cunt droppings on guys.... wow Patton would be proud[/b][/i]

[sean]

[quote][i][b]No I am worried about what are potential allies in the Middle East who will now be "turned into" enemies think of us[/b][/i][/quote]

So should we cut off the heads of the prisoners?That seems to be what they respect.

[quote][i][b]Idiotic behavior like this makes moderate muslims angry because it is seen as the ultimate taboo.  How would you feel if China invaded the US to "liberate" us and then while talking of freeing us from our former dictator, started making our citizens have sex with children ... a taboo just as strong here as male homesexuality is there.[/b][/i][/quote]

Where were they forced to have sex with other men?
And they were POW's not "citizens".

[quote][i][b]How idiotic is this shit, the men at Abu Ghraib have all mostly been released, and were run of the mill prisoners.  These were not high value detainees, but believe me they are surely signed up to bomb the US now[/b][/i][/quote]

Abu Graib went beyond what was acceptible.

[quote][i][b]Thanks for for showing your immaturity, ignorance, stupidity, and complete lack of brain function.  We can detain them... what is so wrong with detaining them, placing them in small cells, and not giving them any amenities.  We don't need to find the US sluts in the army to come rub vagina juice on them, or that little stupid fucking midget to walk around with a dog collar on them[/b][/i][/quote]

Thanks for the insults. I needed that. [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/18.gif[/img]
They female guards didn't rub "vagina juice" on them. To a muslim a menstruating women is considered "unclean" , and has to seperate from men. By telling him she is menstruating and then touching him, he has become "unclean" and needs to wash. This is just regular contact not rubbing "vagina juice".

[quote][i][b]Saddam should have been removed.... By his own people, just like our own people should remove Bush.  Us claiming that we should remove Saddam, would be like Saudi Arabia claiming they should remove Bush.  [/b][/i][/quote]

I didn't realize the U.N. had sanctions against us. I didn't know we were given 17 chances to comply over 12 years and failed to do so. Bush can be removed by the vote or impeachment... Saddam couldn't.

[Guest bengalrick]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Jul 14 2005, 01:03 PM'][i][b]Have you ever thought that maybe they are cutting heads off because we are rubbing tits in their fellow muslims faces[/b][/i]
[right][post="114438"][/post][/right][/quote]

then why did they drive 2 planes into the world trade centers, a plane into the pentagon, and tried to put the other into the white house, killing 3000 people in the process?

btw, if rubbing tits in your face is torcher, sign me up...


j/k... kinda...

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]didn't realize the U.N. had sanctions against us. I didn't know we were given 17 chances to comply over 12 years and failed to do so. Bush can be removed by the vote or impeachment... Saddam couldn't.[/quote]

[i][b]funny lets examine the ways that the US Vetoes the UN when they try to pass resolutions against Terror.....[/b][/i]


[u]30 Years Of U.S. UN Vetoes.[/u]
How the U.S. has Voted // Vetoed- See any bias - See any pattern ?


Year -----Resolution Vetoed by the USA

1972 Condemns Israel for killing hundreds of people in Syria and Lebanon in air raids.
1973 Afirms the rights of the Palestinians and calls on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories.
1976 Condemns Israel for attacking Lebanese civilians.
1976 Condemns Israel for building settlements in the occupied territories.
1976 Calls for self determination for the Palestinians.
1976 Afirms the rights of the Palestinians.
1978 Urges the permanent members (USA, USSR, UK, France, China) to insure United Nations decisions on the maintenance of international peace and security.
1978 Criticises the living conditions of the Palestinians.
1978 Condemns the Israeli human rights record in occupied territories.
1978 Calls for developed countries to increase the quantity and quality of development assistance to underdeveloped countries.
1979 Calls for an end to all military and nuclear collaboration with the apartheid South Africa.
1979 Strengthens the arms embargo against South Africa.
1979 Offers assistance to all the oppressed people of South Africa and their liberation movement.
1979 Concerns negotiations on disarmament and cessation of the nuclear arms race.
1979 Calls for the return of all inhabitants expelled by Israel.
1979 Demands that Israel desist from human rights violations.
1979 Requests a report on the living conditions of Palestinians in occupied Arab countries.
1979 Offers assistance to the Palestinian people.
1979 Discusses sovereignty over national resources in occupied Arab territories.
1979 Calls for protection of developing counties' exports.
1979 Calls for alternative approaches within the United Nations system for improving the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms.
1979 Opposes support for intervention in the internal or external affairs of states.
1979 For a United Nations Conference on Women.
1979 To include Palestinian women in the United Nations Conference on Women.
1979 Safeguards rights of developing countries in multinational trade negotiations.
1980 Requests Israel to return displaced persons.
1980 Condemns Israeli policy regarding the living conditions of the Palestinian people.
1980 Condemns Israeli human rights practices in occupied territories. 3 resolutions.
1980 Afirms the right of self determination for the Palestinians.
1980 Offers assistance to the oppressed people of South Africa and their national liberation movement.
1980 Attempts to establish a New International Economic Order to promote the growth of underdeveloped countries and international economic co-operation.
1980 Endorses the Program of Action for Second Half of United Nations Decade for Women.
1980 Declaration of non-use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states.
1980 Emphasises that the development of nations and individuals is a human right.
1980 Calls for the cessation of all nuclear test explosions.
1980 Calls for the implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples.
1981 Promotes co-operative movements in developing countries.
1981 Affirms the right of every state to choose its economic and social system in accord with the will of its people, without outside interference in whatever form it takes.
1981 Condemns activities of foreign economic interests in colonial territories.
1981 Calls for the cessation of all test explosions of nuclear weapons.
1981 Calls for action in support of measures to prevent nuclear war, curb the arms race and promote disarmament.
1981 Urges negotiations on prohibition of chemical and biological weapons.
1981 Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment, national development, etc are human rights.
1981 Condemns South Africa for attacks on neighbouring states, condemns apartheid and attempts to strengthen sanctions. 7 resolutions.
1981 Condemns an attempted coup by South Africa on the Seychelles.
1981 Condemns Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, human rights policies, and the bombing of Iraq. 18 resolutions.
1982 Condemns the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. 6 resolutions (1982 to 1983).
1982 Condemns the shooting of 11 Muslims at a shrine in Jerusalem by an Israeli soldier.
1982 Calls on Israel to withdraw from the Golan Heights occupied in 1967.
1982 Condemns apartheid and calls for the cessation of economic aid to South Africa. 4 resolutions.
1982 Calls for the setting up of a World Charter for the protection of the ecology.
1982 Sets up a United Nations conference on succession of states in respect to state property, archives and debts.
1982 Nuclear test bans and negotiations and nuclear free outer space. 3 resolutions.
1982 Supports a new world information and communications order.
1982 Prohibition of chemical and bacteriological weapons.
1982 Development of international law.
1982 Protects against products harmful to health and the environment .
1982 Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment, national development are human rights.
1982 Protects against products harmful to health and the environment.
1982 Development of the energy resources of developing countries.
1983 Resolutions about apartheid, nuclear arms, economics, and international law. 15 resolutions.
1984 Condemns support of South Africa in its Namibian and other policies.
1984 International action to eliminate apartheid.
1984 Condemns Israel for occupying and attacking southern Lebanon.
1984 Resolutions about apartheid, nuclear arms, economics, and international law. 18 resolutions.
1985 Condemns Israel for occupying and attacking southern Lebanon.
1985 Condemns Israel for using excessive force in the occupied territories.
1985 Resolutions about cooperation, human rights, trade and development. 3 resolutions.
1985 Measures to be taken against Nazi, Fascist and neo-Fascist activities .
1986 Calls on all governments (including the USA) to observe international law.
1986 Imposes economic and military sanctions against South Africa.
1986 Condemns Israel for its actions against Lebanese civilians.
1986 Calls on Israel to respect Muslim holy places.
1986 Condemns Israel for sky-jacking a Libyan airliner.
1986 Resolutions about cooperation, security, human rights, trade, media bias, the environment and development.
8 resolutions.
1987 Calls on Israel to abide by the Geneva Conventions in its treatment of the Palestinians.
1987 Calls on Israel to stop deporting Palestinians.
1987 Condemns Israel for its actions in Lebanon. 2 resolutions.
1987 Calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.
1987 Cooperation between the United Nations and the League of Arab States.
1987 Calls for compliance in the International Court of Justice concerning military and paramilitary activities against Nicaragua and a call to end the trade embargo against Nicaragua. 2 resolutions.
1987 Measures to prevent international terrorism, study the underlying political and economic causes of terrorism, convene a conference to define terrorism and to differentiate it from the struggle of people from national liberation.
1987 Resolutions concerning journalism, international debt and trade. 3 resolutions.
1987 Opposition to the build up of weapons in space.
1987 Opposition to the development of new weapons of mass destruction.
1987 Opposition to nuclear testing. 2 resolutions.
1987 Proposal to set up South Atlantic "Zone of Peace".
1988 Condemns Israeli practices against Palestinians in the occupied territories. 5 resolutions (1988 and 1989).
1989 Condemns USA invasion of Panama.
1989 Condemns USA troops for ransacking the residence of the Nicaraguan ambassador in Panama.
1989 Condemns USA support for the Contra army in Nicaragua.
1989 Condemns illegal USA embargo of Nicaragua.
1989 Opposing the acquisition of territory by force.
1989 Calling for a resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict based on earlier UN resoltions.
1990 To send three UN Security Council observers to the occupied territories.
1995 Afirms that land in East Jerusalem annexed by Israel is occupied territory.
1997 Calls on Israel to cease building settlements in East Jerusalem and other occupied territories. 2 resolutions.
1999 Calls on the USA to end its trade embargo on Cuba. 8 resolutions (1992 to 1999).
2001 To send unarmed monitors to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
2001 To set up the International Criminal Court.
2002 To renew the peace keeping mission in Bosnia.


[i][b]the dirty little secret that educated individuals know is that the UN is a puppet of the US as well... not a hinderance[/b][/i]

[sean]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Jul 14 2005, 01:30 PM'][i][b]funny lets examine the ways that the US Vetoes the UN when they try to pass resolutions against Terror.....[/b][/i]
[u]30 Years Of U.S. UN Vetoes.[/u]
How the U.S. has Voted // Vetoed- See any bias - See any pattern ?
Year -----Resolution Vetoed by the USA

1972 Condemns Israel for killing hundreds of people in Syria and Lebanon in air raids.
1973 Afirms the rights of the Palestinians and calls on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories.
1976 Condemns Israel for attacking Lebanese civilians.
1976 Condemns Israel for building settlements in the occupied territories.
1976 Calls for self determination for the Palestinians.
1976 Afirms the rights of the Palestinians.
1978 Urges the permanent members (USA, USSR, UK, France, China) to insure United Nations decisions on the maintenance of international peace and security.
1978 Criticises the living conditions of the Palestinians.
1978 Condemns the Israeli human rights record in occupied territories.
1978 Calls for developed countries to increase the quantity and quality of development assistance to underdeveloped countries.
1979 Calls for an end to all military and nuclear collaboration with the apartheid South Africa.
1979 Strengthens the arms embargo against South Africa.
1979 Offers assistance to all the oppressed people of South Africa and their liberation movement.
1979 Concerns negotiations on disarmament and cessation of the nuclear arms race.
1979 Calls for the return of all inhabitants expelled by Israel.
1979 Demands that Israel desist from human rights violations.
1979 Requests a report on the living conditions of Palestinians in occupied Arab countries.
1979 Offers assistance to the Palestinian people.
1979 Discusses sovereignty over national resources in occupied Arab territories.
1979 Calls for protection of developing counties' exports.
1979 Calls for alternative approaches within the United Nations system for improving the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms.
1979 Opposes support for intervention in the internal or external affairs of states.
1979 For a United Nations Conference on Women.
1979 To include Palestinian women in the United Nations Conference on Women.
1979 Safeguards rights of developing countries in multinational trade negotiations.
1980 Requests Israel to return displaced persons.
1980 Condemns Israeli policy regarding the living conditions of the Palestinian people.
1980 Condemns Israeli human rights practices in occupied territories. 3 resolutions.
1980 Afirms the right of self determination for the Palestinians.
1980 Offers assistance to the oppressed people of South Africa and their national liberation movement.
1980 Attempts to establish a New International Economic Order to promote the growth of underdeveloped countries and international economic co-operation.
1980 Endorses the Program of Action for Second Half of United Nations Decade for Women.
1980 Declaration of non-use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states.
1980 Emphasises that the development of nations and individuals is a human right.
1980 Calls for the cessation of all nuclear test explosions.
1980 Calls for the implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples.
1981 Promotes co-operative movements in developing countries.
1981 Affirms the right of every state to choose its economic and social system in accord with the will of its people, without outside interference in whatever form it takes.
1981 Condemns activities of foreign economic interests in colonial territories.
1981 Calls for the cessation of all test explosions of nuclear weapons.
1981 Calls for action in support of measures to prevent nuclear war, curb the arms race and promote disarmament.
1981 Urges negotiations on prohibition of chemical and biological weapons.
1981 Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment, national development, etc are human rights.
1981 Condemns South Africa for attacks on neighbouring states, condemns apartheid and attempts to strengthen sanctions. 7 resolutions.
1981 Condemns an attempted coup by South Africa on the Seychelles.
1981 Condemns Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, human rights policies, and the bombing of Iraq. 18 resolutions.
1982 Condemns the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. 6 resolutions (1982 to 1983).
1982 Condemns the shooting of 11 Muslims at a shrine in Jerusalem by an Israeli soldier.
1982 Calls on Israel to withdraw from the Golan Heights occupied in 1967.
1982 Condemns apartheid and calls for the cessation of economic aid to South Africa. 4 resolutions.
1982 Calls for the setting up of a World Charter for the protection of the ecology.
1982 Sets up a United Nations conference on succession of states in respect to state property, archives and debts.
1982 Nuclear test bans and negotiations and nuclear free outer space. 3 resolutions.
1982 Supports a new world information and communications order.
1982 Prohibition of chemical and bacteriological weapons.
1982 Development of international law.
1982 Protects against products harmful to health and the environment .
1982 Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment, national development are human rights.
1982 Protects against products harmful to health and the environment.
1982 Development of the energy resources of developing countries.
1983 Resolutions about apartheid, nuclear arms, economics, and international law. 15 resolutions.
1984 Condemns support of South Africa in its Namibian and other policies.
1984 International action to eliminate apartheid.
1984 Condemns Israel for occupying and attacking southern Lebanon.
1984 Resolutions about apartheid, nuclear arms, economics, and international law. 18 resolutions.
1985 Condemns Israel for occupying and attacking southern Lebanon.
1985 Condemns Israel for using excessive force in the occupied territories.
1985 Resolutions about cooperation, human rights, trade and development. 3 resolutions.
1985 Measures to be taken against Nazi, Fascist and neo-Fascist activities .
1986 Calls on all governments (including the USA) to observe international law.
1986 Imposes economic and military sanctions against South Africa.
1986 Condemns Israel for its actions against Lebanese civilians.
1986 Calls on Israel to respect Muslim holy places.
1986 Condemns Israel for sky-jacking a Libyan airliner.
1986 Resolutions about cooperation, security, human rights, trade, media bias, the environment and development.
8 resolutions.
1987 Calls on Israel to abide by the Geneva Conventions in its treatment of the Palestinians.
1987 Calls on Israel to stop deporting Palestinians.
1987 Condemns Israel for its actions in Lebanon. 2 resolutions.
1987 Calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.
1987 Cooperation between the United Nations and the League of Arab States.
1987 Calls for compliance in the International Court of Justice concerning military and paramilitary activities against Nicaragua and a call to end the trade embargo against Nicaragua. 2 resolutions.
1987 Measures to prevent international terrorism, study the underlying political and economic causes of terrorism, convene a conference to define terrorism and to differentiate it from the struggle of people from national liberation.
1987 Resolutions concerning journalism, international debt and trade. 3 resolutions.
1987 Opposition to the build up of weapons in space.
1987 Opposition to the development of new weapons of mass destruction.
1987 Opposition to nuclear testing. 2 resolutions.
1987 Proposal to set up South Atlantic "Zone of Peace".
1988 Condemns Israeli practices against Palestinians in the occupied territories. 5 resolutions (1988 and 1989).
1989 Condemns USA invasion of Panama.
1989 Condemns USA troops for ransacking the residence of the Nicaraguan ambassador in Panama.
1989 Condemns USA support for the Contra army in Nicaragua.
1989 Condemns illegal USA embargo of Nicaragua.
1989 Opposing the acquisition of territory by force.
1989 Calling for a resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict based on earlier UN resoltions.
1990 To send three UN Security Council observers to the occupied territories.
1995 Afirms that land in East Jerusalem annexed by Israel is occupied territory.
1997 Calls on Israel to cease building settlements in East Jerusalem and other occupied territories. 2 resolutions.
1999 Calls on the USA to end its trade embargo on Cuba. 8 resolutions (1992 to 1999).
2001 To send unarmed monitors to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
2001 To set up the International Criminal Court.
2002 To renew the peace keeping mission in Bosnia.
[i][b]the dirty little secret that educated individuals know is that the UN is a puppet of the US as well... not a hinderance[/b][/i]
[right][post="114452"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote]


What are you saying? What does this have to do with Iraq and the treatment of prisoners? We all know that the U.N. will bend to our will. How does this help your argument?

<rant>
I don't blindly agree with everything the government does. I'm in college as well and have learned of past atrocities. It just seems that you rail against everything the government does. If you don't like it here in the U.S., change it. Run for office and try to affect real change.
</rant>

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]What are you saying? What does this have to do with Iraq and the treatment of prisoners? We all know that the U.N. will bend to our will. How does this help your argument?[/quote]

[i][b]the point Sean. is that if you use the UN resolutions as a reason to Invade Iraq.... then look at all the resoltuions that never are allowed to come to light because the US vetoes them. If we didn't veto them it would be the US whon was constantly in violation of resolutions and free to be invaded by your premise[/b][/i]

[Guest bengalrick]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Jul 14 2005, 01:56 PM'][i][b]the point Sean. is that if you use the UN resolutions as a reason to Invade Iraq.... then look at all the resoltuions that never are allowed to come to light because the US vetoes them.  If we didn't veto them it would be the US whon was constantly in violation of resolutions and free to be invaded by your premise[/b][/i]
[right][post="114472"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote]

i guess we agree that the UN is useless then, and needs to be redone from the top down?

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]i guess we agree that the UN is useless then, and needs to be redone from the top down?[/quote]

[i][b]all that is needed is to get rid of the veto power for the few large nations that actually run the thing. The the real truth will come out from the smaller countries of how much they are tinkered with and fucked with by the larger ones. Esp the US[/b][/i]

[Guest bengalrick]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Jul 14 2005, 02:03 PM'][i][b]all that is needed is to get rid of the veto power for the few large nations that actually run the thing.  The the real truth will come out from the smaller countries of how much they are tinkered with and fucked with by the larger ones.  Esp the US[/b][/i]
[right][post="114478"][/post][/right][/quote]

i figured it came down to be america's fault...

[Guest BlackJesus]

[i][b]rick did you not read the list of things the US vetoes ???

hello, wake up [/b][/i]!!