Day 2 Big Board

[JBandJoeyV]

So I know the first round isnt over yet, but what do you want out of round 2? Whats your big board look like?

 

I'd probably go oline in round 2 if there is a good one available. Bitonio, marcus martin, someone like that. Id also put carlos hyde up there on my big board if hes around which I doubt he will be. Lastly, I think I would actually consider Teddy B if he fell to 55. I just think there is too much value there to pass up.

 

 

What are your guys thoughts?

[Le Tigre]

Who knows?

[JBandJoeyV]

Who knows?

 

Well nobody. But the point was who do you want?

[JC]

Van Noy. PLEASE.

[Oldcat]

OL seems the highest need 

RB a pounder or blocking TE perhaps

LB for the SSLB 

or our usual BPA choice.

[alleycat]

Wow. There are going to be a lot of VERY GOOD picks available at 55 tomorrow.

[Bengals1181]

I think now you hope Tiny Richardson is there at 55.

[alleycat]

Cyrus could fall. 

[scharm]

2nd round is heartbreak ridge waiting for the pick.

It would be funny if Houston took Carr.

[Jamie_B]

I think now you hope Tiny Richardson is there at 55.

 

 

Please tell me he is a very large lineman, the name would be perfect. :lol:

[JBandJoeyV]

 

 

Please tell me he is a very large lineman, the name would be perfect. :lol:

 

Hes like 6'6 340 or something

[JBandJoeyV]

so much for teddy b...

[Jamie_B]

 

Hes like 6'6 340 or something

 

 

awesome

[FulcherVulcher33]

Has to be o-line preferably a center or lb

[starkesn]

Has to be o-line preferably a center or lb

 

There are so many linemen that could be in play. Bitonio, Suafilo (sp), Kouandjo, Yankey and Martin are all still around. Or even a LB / DE considering Ealy and Van Noy are still around. Whoever it is, there is going to be a TON of quality to choose from.

[happyrid]

Has to be o-line preferably a center or lb

 

That's my thinking. With only a few exceptions (the Andy/AJ draft is 1), we've split things pretty evenly between O and D. So I think odds are pretty high we are looking at an offensive player all things being equal. 

 

O Line is definitely the most likely candidate but RB could be the dark horse if the right guy slides to 55. 

 

Still tons of talent left. Glad we got Dennard but it sounds like the Plan B of trading down was available to them and some extra early picks would have been pretty sweet also. 

 

As a Buckeye homer, I have always been pretty good about separating my fandom from Bengals draft stuff. But in this case, even putting the homerism aside, the 2 guys I really like are Jack Mewhort and Carlos Hyde. Hyde could really add a boost to the running game. And Mewhort is a guy who could back up 4 positions on the OL (and start if Boling isn't healthy). Bitonio would be my 1st choice, but I am assuming he goes top 40.

[Zins30]

Best left from Kiper's Top 100

23. *Marqise Lee, WR, USC: Hampered by a sore knee and inconsistency in catching the ball in 2013, but Lee is still a first-round talent.

24. Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU: Jumped up my board after I spent more time watching him on tape. Just looks like he's playing faster than everyone else.

25. Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin: He doesn't pass the eye test for some, but put a helmet on him and you see an immediate NFL starter.

26. Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State: A quick release and the ability to hit his targets quickly and accurately underneath and on intermediate throws stand out.

28. *Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame: Inconsistency was an issue in 2013, but so was a nagging injury that slowed him down. When healthy, he can thrive.

29. *Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana: I'm with the rest of the market on Latimer, as I didn't have him high enough based on what he showed in 2013.

30. Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State: I don't think this reflects his draft position, but early in Round 2 wouldn't offend me for the best running back in the draft.

31. **Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State: A bigger frame than some realize, Adams does a good job of snatching the ball away from his body, and he wins battles for the ball.

32. *Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama: Has the potential to be great if he can be consistent, and consistently healthy.

33. *Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State: I love Jernigan after he gets started, but he can be oddly slow off the snap. Very good and still developing.

34. Gabe Jackson, G, Mississippi State: Effective as both a run- and pass-blocker, and 52 starts offers plenty of certainty about what you're getting.

35. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota: He can dominate and then disappear, but he's a high-end athlete at this size and can get better as a convert to defense.

36. *David Yankey, G, Stanford: Not a dominating guard but an effective one who moves well for his size and can pull effectively. Fit matters.

38. Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia: Has great length for the position and creates a long road around him, but only intermittently dominant.

41. *Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame: He's close to unique in this draft given his frame. Just hope he can put it all together consistently.

42. *Xavier Su'a-Filo, G, UCLA: Have seem him unfairly maligned as sluggish; he moves well and creates movement.

43. *Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri: Gains some value because of positional scarcity. Ealy has the frame to play 4-3 defensive end.

44. *Marcus Martin, C, USC: Have projected him as high as late Round 1, but likelier a Round 2 fit as the draft's top center on the board.

46. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois: I'd be shocked if he's around past Round 2. Not a certain starter, but he could develop into one.

47. Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt: More explosive than many believed, Matthews is a reliable hands-catcher who can hit another gear after the catch.

48. *Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington: A shifty runner who uses good vision to find small seams and keep his weight headed downhill. Good hands.

49. *Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State: One of the better pure pass-rushers in the class, but he's a tweener in terms of system fit.

51. AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama: Really accurate underneath with success in throwing the deep ball even if the big arm isn't there. Underrated mover outside the pocket too.

53. Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech: He can really close when he gets a path to the passer. I see him as a second-round pick.

54. Lamarcus Joyner, CB, Florida State: A versatile defender, Joyner can handle the slot or drop to safety. What he lacks in size he makes up for with instincts.

55. *Tre Mason, RB, Auburn: Runs low, bounces off contact and has a good eye for the seam. Isn't afraid to protect his quarterback.

56. *Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina: Ellington isn't big at 5-foot-9, but he eats up space with his speed and will work through contact.

57. Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State: Could be the top center taken, as there's a split on him and Martin. Richburg also could be an effective guard. Moves very well.

58. Trent Murphy, OLB, Stanford: Has the full repertoire as a pass-rusher; the question is ceiling for this experienced edge rusher.

59. Dri Archer, RB, Kent State: The fastest player in the draft, the pint-sized Archer will get Darren Sproles comps, as he'll be used all over.

60. *Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU: He doesn't bring the speed element, but Landry has fantastic hands, makes contested catches and will throw a mean block.

61. *Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee: Still more of a physical specimen than a refined talent, Richardson can be sloppy, but he could be a steal if he cleans it up.

62. Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh: The onetime Rutgers starter had his ups and downs behind some bad blocking in 2013, but he has a strong arm and starting upside.

63. *Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington: Huge at 6-5 and 260-plus pounds, he can make catches down the field but isn't explosive enough to separate consistently.

64. Jack Mewhort, OT, Ohio State: Could be a steal because he's a better player than he is an athlete at a position where measurables matter.

65. *Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson: Hidden somewhat behind the dominance of Watkins, Bryant has great length and has shined in workouts.

66. *Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame: Has the size to be an effective blocker, not merely a tight end who splits out and doesn't block much, but he needs work as a pass-catcher.

67. Joel Bitonio, G, Nevada: Moves up on versatility, as he can play pretty much anywhere you need, and has a mean streak as a run-blocker.

69. **Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU: At 230-plus pounds, he can get up to speed quickly, bounce off contact and has a spin move to avoid tackles.

70. Keith McGill, CB, Utah: Could see a draft-day boost based on big size for a corner (6-3), but he needs work on the technique side.

71. Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia: A versatile performer, Sims may have the best hands in the draft coming out of the backfield. I'd put him in Round 3.

72. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska: The onetime receiver has elite length at 6-3 but could use work in his ability to mirror and move with receivers.

73. *Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers: Height/weight/speed alert: Coleman is a full 6-6 and 225-plus pounds and can still run away from people.

74. *Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech: A good athlete for the position, he's best used split out because there's no real experience as a blocker. Good length at 6-5.

75. Josh Huff, WR, Oregon: Not as explosive as some others in this draft, but Huff fights through contact and will make contested catches.

76. *Donte Moncrief, WR, Mississippi: He had an inconsistent year, but Moncrief is a major physical talent with 4.40 speed at 220-plus pounds.

77. Billy Turner, OT, North Dakota State: Was dominant on his level but will need technical work. Still, he's a potential steal on Day 3.

78. Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State: His tape should have him higher, but Smith played linebacker at less than 220 pounds. Not quite a Lavonte David, but it's a fair size comp.

79. Brandon Thomas, G, Clemson: A knee injury during workouts could keep him from contributing in 2014. Could be a great guard, though he has good tape at tackle.

80. Terrence Brooks, S, Florida State: Reads the game well and has both good instincts and a quick route to the ball; he just needs to wrap up more consistently.

81. *De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon: Elite explosiveness when the pads are on; it's just a matter of how many touches a team can give him.

82. Robert Herron, WR, Wyoming: Lost a bit in a deep wide receiver class, Herron has a second gear with the ball in his hands, but he lacks size.

83. *Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State: Not explosive, but capable of going up and making the tough catch through defenders.

85. Lamin Barrow, OLB, LSU: Isn't a big linebacker, but he moves well through traffic and has a good sense of spacing when he's in zone.

86. Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma: He tore his ACL at the Senior Bowl but is already moving well and could be playing for someone late in 2014.

87. Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech: Has the physical traits of an elite tight end prospect, but despite a couple of so-so years at quarterback, he's worth a look there.

88. Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama: Could be a sleeper. Has good length and above-average speed.

89. Brent Urban, DL, Virginia: Has great length at 6-5 with 34-inch arms; he can jolt defenders and both penetrate and disrupt passing lanes.

90. Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana: Explodes to the ball when he sees the route as the play develops in front of him. Lacks ideal size.

91. Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood: A small-college sleeper now quite well-known to most, Desir has good length in a time when that's coveted at cornerback.

92. Andre Williams, RB, Boston College: Highly productive and offers good size at 230-plus pounds, but doesn't do much to make people miss.

93. *Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado: A playmaker who can eat up space with his acceleration, he is just lacking in bulk and could struggle with the NFL's brand of corner.

94. *Russell Bodine, C, North Carolina: Isn't a great mover, but he has exceptional strength to turn defenders and get to the linebackers.

95. DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State: A wide body who can hold up at the point and does a good job of flowing to the ball.

96. Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia: Accuracy and intangibles are there, even if arm strength and ceiling questions exist. Wouldn't surprise me if he finds a way to a starting job at some point.

97. *Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor: An explosive athlete, he can spend too much time looking for the big play and needs to play more north and south.

99. Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU: Doesn't move well, but has maybe the best arm strength in the draft and could succeed in a good system (with good blocking).

100. Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon: Has good quickness and a playmaker's instincts; dropped a little due to average top-end speed. Now a potential steal.

[Oldcat]

 

That's my thinking. With only a few exceptions (the Andy/AJ draft is 1), we've split things pretty evenly between O and D. So I think odds are pretty high we are looking at an offensive player all things being equal. 

 

O Line is definitely the most likely candidate but RB could be the dark horse if the right guy slides to 55. 

 

Still tons of talent left. Glad we got Dennard but it sounds like the Plan B of trading down was available to them and some extra early picks would have been pretty sweet also. 

 

As a Buckeye homer, I have always been pretty good about separating my fandom from Bengals draft stuff. But in this case, even putting the homerism aside, the 2 guys I really like are Jack Mewhort and Carlos Hyde. Hyde could really add a boost to the running game. And Mewhort is a guy who could back up 4 positions on the OL (and start if Boling isn't healthy). Bitonio would be my 1st choice, but I am assuming he goes top 40.

 

I think the real rule is that of the first three picks O and D always have at least one.  In 2011 they picked Dante Moch third.  I think that rule fits all the drafts Marvin has had.

[happyrid]

Just threw this together pretty quick, but here's my top 25 (the numbers are Mayock's rank) in order:

 

39. Joel Bitonio, OT, Nevada 

24. Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama 

47. Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia 

45. Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri 

46. Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State 

48. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota 

56. Kyle Van Noy, LB, BYU 

28. Marqise Lee, WR, USC 

33. Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame 

34. Marcus Martin, C, USC 

35. Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State 

31. Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State 

44. Xavier Su'a-Filo, G, UCLA 

49. Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU 

27. Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington 

59. Jack Mewhort, OT, Ohio State 

71. Gabe Jackson, G, Mississippi State 

77. Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State 

62. Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State 

36. Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame 

55. Tre Mason, RB, Auburn 

61. Trent Murphy, LB, Stanford 

41. Demarcus Lawrence, LB, Boise State 

80. Jeremiah Attaochu, LB, Georgia Tech

82. Chris Borland, LB, Wisconsin 

 

 

Lots of O Line, D Line and rush LBers which seem the most likely targets based on need.

 

Also listed the top 4 RBs, any of whom would be a good fit.

 

Lastly, a few of the top remaining WRs who could end up being the fit as BPA options and a MLB in Borland.

[MichaelWeston]

Cyrus Kuandjio-Alabama (1)
Marqise Lee-USC (2)
Joel Bitonio-Nevada (3)
Xavier Su'a-Filo-UCLA (2)
David Yankey-Stanford (3)
Carlos Hyde-OSU (2)
Kyle Van Noy-BYU (3)
Jimmy Garoppolo-E Illinois (3)
Scott Crichton-Oregon St (2)
LaMarcus Joyner-FSU (2)
Derek Carr-Fresno St (2)
Trent Murphy-Stanford (2)
Jeremy Hill-LSU (2)

Edit: After seeing happyrids list I have to add Ealy and Hageman.

[mhfinks]

Thinking C Richburg or Martin

[Bengals1181]

the Bengals would love to get Bitonio if he fell that far.  They're very high on him.  He'll likely go very early tonight though.

[Le Tigre]

Well nobody. But the point was who do you want?

Sorry, didn't mean for that to come off snarky. I just don't know.

One thing is for sure: Day 2 is load-up day. There will be some very good football players available at each pick. Each one will be a score.

[|schotzee|]

the Bengals would love to get Bitonio if he fell that far.  They're very high on him.  He'll likely go very early tonight though.

Maybe he's a guy you trade up for?!

[Sox]

BPA for me...and since I have no idea what the Bengals big board is I say Bitonio(if there),Jackson,Yankey,Moses,or Hyde.Lots of good players left,and we will wind up with two of them tonight.