oldschooler Posted April 27, 2015 Report Posted April 27, 2015 You really think reloading ammo should be illegal? How about alcohol? I think you need to reconsider who gets punished by making something more expensive. Your neighborhood crack dealer isn't hurting for cash y'know. If someone is manufacturing bullets then I would think it would be in the best interest of society that they at least have to be licensed to do so. And a record of what they have made should be kept and reviewed. Alcohol? I can live without it. I'm just trying to think of ways to make people want to shoot bullets less. Just throwing stuff out there. It's not like I am King of the World or anything. The way things are now, I don't know if anything will ever really change. I mean mass shootings happen and people want more guns. Buy the weapons the killers use. And their first thought is someone wanting to take their guns away rather than how fucked up shit is. It makes my head and heart hurt. Crack wouldn't be any cheaper if it was legal. Someone else would be getting rich is all. Also, being a safe, responsible gun owner means having familiarity and a modicum of proficiency that can only be acquired with practice. Ammo is already expensive, taxing the hell out of it would result in gun owners who don't know what the hell they are doing because they can't afford to go to the range with any regularity. Considering you're more likely to shoot a family member, friend or yourself than you are a bad guy, it might be a good thing if you weren't good at it.
BengalBacker Posted April 27, 2015 Report Posted April 27, 2015 Considering you're more likely to shoot a family member, friend or yourself than you are a bad guy, it might be a good thing if you weren't good at it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. In my opinion, your hatred of guns makes it impossible to have a reasonable discussion about guns with you, so I'm mostly staying out of this discussion. I could argue everything you've said in here point by point, but I generally don't like to argue, especially when I see no point. We're both grown men who have our own reasons to believe what we believe. The biggest difference is that you want to take something away from me. I just want to be left alone to do what common sense tells me is the right thing to do to protect myself and my family, which by the way is protected under the Constitution. Now you'll say that no one wants to take away anyone's guns, yet every post you make on the subject sounds like you would like nothing more than to take away everyone's guns. You might cloak that now as wanting to take away ammo instead, but what's the difference? Molon Labe ETA: Putting exorbitant taxes on things you don't like doesn't sound like freedom to me. Although it is done with sin taxes, that doesn't make it right.
oldschooler Posted April 27, 2015 Report Posted April 27, 2015 Everyone is entitled to their opinion. In my opinion, your hatred of guns makes it impossible to have a reasonable discussion about guns with you, so I'm mostly staying out of this discussion. I could argue everything you've said in here point by point, but I generally don't like to argue, especially when I see no point. We're both grown men who have our own reasons to believe what we believe. The biggest difference is that you want to take something away from me. I just want to be left alone to do what common sense tells me is the right thing to do to protect myself and my family, which by the way is protected under the Constitution. Now you'll say that no one wants to take away anyone's guns, yet every post you make on the subject sounds like you would like nothing more than to take away everyone's guns. You might cloak that now as wanting to take away ammo instead, but what's the difference? Molon Labe ETA: Putting exorbitant taxes on things you don't like doesn't sound like freedom to me. Although it is done with sin taxes, that doesn't make it right. I don't have a hatred for guns. I have a hatred for stupid and/or irresponsible people with guns. Surely you see the problem. If not you should do some researching and acknowledge the problem. See I don't see how you keep coming to that conclusion. I just don't think everyone has the right to a gun. And neither do you.
Jamie_B Posted April 27, 2015 Report Posted April 27, 2015 Hell if we could have required registration and annual proof of proficiency to go along with massive investment in mental health issues, it would be a huge step to solving the problem. Unfortunately laws on guns these days is viewed as "You're taking my guns". (To which I say, if you believe that maybe you should have your gun taken away and money invested in your mental health.)
Jamie_B Posted April 27, 2015 Report Posted April 27, 2015 Oh and I have absolutely no problem with Sin taxes, they are dead on "the right thing to do". If your behavior ends up driving prices up on things like healthcare (because some recognize we live in a society), then you should bare some sort of responsibility for that. Hell I'd put sin taxes on all sorts of society harming behavior, starting right at the top.
oldschooler Posted April 27, 2015 Report Posted April 27, 2015 Too many guns. Too many idiots that have guns. Too many people dying from guns.
|kennethmw| Posted April 27, 2015 Report Posted April 27, 2015 Everyone is entitled to their opinion. In my opinion, your hatred of guns makes it impossible to have a reasonable discussion about guns with you, so I'm mostly staying out of this discussion. I could argue everything you've said in here point by point, but I generally don't like to argue, especially when I see no point. We're both grown men who have our own reasons to believe what we believe. The biggest difference is that you want to take something away from me. I just want to be left alone to do what common sense tells me is the right thing to do to protect myself and my family, which by the way is protected under the Constitution. Now you'll say that no one wants to take away anyone's guns, yet every post you make on the subject sounds like you would like nothing more than to take away everyone's guns. You might cloak that now as wanting to take away ammo instead, but what's the difference? Molon Labe ETA: Putting exorbitant taxes on things you don't like doesn't sound like freedom to me. Although it is done with sin taxes, that doesn't make it right. He's never said ANYTHING about taking away everyone's guns, just that we should have regulations and people should be able to prove they are mentally stable enough and have been through enough training to use them. As a responsible gun owner, I don't think he's wrong.
CincyInDC Posted April 28, 2015 Report Posted April 28, 2015 First they came for the psychopaths' guns and I did not speak out -- Because I was not a psychopath. :suicide:
Jamie_B Posted April 28, 2015 Report Posted April 28, 2015 http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/baltimore-violence-follows-in-tragic-pattern-435476035841?cid=sm_fb_maddow
oldschooler Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead
MichaelWeston Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Posted May 8, 2015 Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead There's a little more to the story than an unarmed boy was shot: "McPherson reportedly followed the vehicle initially before activating his emergency lights. ... Comstock, at one point, is accused of stopping the vehicle and reversing, pushing the trailer into the police car and partially onto its hood, according to police. Comstock then sped away again, police reported, running a red light and becoming unhitched from the trailer ... and eventually north on Morrill Road – against one-way traffic in the bike and pedestrian lanes, according to police. Witnesses told police that people were jumping out of the way of the truck, which then jumped the curb onto a grassy area north of the university’s Campanile. McPherson unsuccessfully tried to ram the vehicle to get it to stop, police reported."
T-Dub Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 If this guy was trying to run people over then deadly force was 100% justified. Which begs the question, where's the dashcam footage?
oldschooler Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 There's a little more to the story than an unarmed boy was shot: "McPherson reportedly followed the vehicle initially before activating his emergency lights. ... Comstock, at one point, is accused of stopping the vehicle and reversing, pushing the trailer into the police car and partially onto its hood, according to police. Comstock then sped away again, police reported, running a red light and becoming unhitched from the trailer ... and eventually north on Morrill Road – against one-way traffic in the bike and pedestrian lanes, according to police. Witnesses told police that people were jumping out of the way of the truck, which then jumped the curb onto a grassy area north of the university’s Campanile. McPherson unsuccessfully tried to ram the vehicle to get it to stop, police reported." The family's demands for answers got even louder following the revelation that a member of the Ames police department suggested twice that officers call off the chase.
oldschooler Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 If this guy was trying to run people over then deadly force was 100% justified. Which begs the question, where's the dashcam footage? http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh6x1XsJx1j9l7ofBC http://bcove.me/8nsq7r9m
oldschooler Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 No gun but damn .... http://6abc.com/news/cop-indicted-after-video-shows-suspect-kicked-in-head/703334/
T-Dub Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh6x1XsJx1j9l7ofBC http://bcove.me/8nsq7r9m Yeah, looks like he was trying to run over the cops. Command probably should've told them to back off once he entered the campus but from what I can see the ones on the scene acted appropriately.
BengalBacker Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh6x1XsJx1j9l7ofBC Fuck him, good riddance.
T-Dub Posted May 9, 2015 Report Posted May 9, 2015 Too tough to shoot the tires? Shooting the tires wouldn't disable the vehicle.
MichaelWeston Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Posted May 14, 2015 America personified in one amazing picture.
T-Dub Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 America personified in one amazing picture. Odd, I assumed you also lived in the US. Foreign, or just one of those Americans that makes oddly-sweeping comments about "Americans" like they are the enlightened sovereign of the Utopian Republic of Me-istan? Almost as good as the "people are so ______". Are you 2 dogs in a suit or something?
T-Dub Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 I asked Colt Firearms & they say you definitely need to buy a few more before it's too late.
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