Guest steggyD Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Strange part is that the Giza pullout is Aug 15. Anyways, what do you all think? I know it is religious, which some people cannot stand, but it has great meaning in how our history will pan out if this is found. [url="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=82226"]Israel National News[/url] [quote][b]Kabbalist Blesses Jones: Now´s the Time to Find Holy Lost Ark[/b] 14:03 May 20, '05 / 11 Iyar 5765 An unnamed Kabbalist has granted blessing to famed archeologist Dr. Vendyl Jones to uncover the Holy Ark of the Covenant. Jones plans to excavate the Lost Ark by the Tisha B’Av Fast this summer. The famed archaeologist, the inspiration for the “Indiana Jones†movie series, has spent most of his life searching for the Ark of the Covenant. The ark was the resting place of the Ten Commandments, given to the Jewish people at Mount Sinai, and was hidden just before the destruction of the First Temple. The Talmud says the Ark is hidden in a secret passage under the Temple Mount. Jones says that the tunnel actually continues 18 miles southward, and that the Ark was brought through the tunnel to its current resting place in the Judean Desert. Throughout the many years of his quest, Jones has been in close contact and under the tutelage of numerous Rabbis and Kabbalists. Extremely knowledgeable in Torah, Talmud and Kabbalah sources dealing with Holy Temple issues, Jones has now received permission from both known and secret Kabbalists to finally uncover the lost ark. Dr. Jones, who divides his time between Texas and Israel, has been here since March 9th ready to finally reveal the Ark. However, he has been waiting for both permission from the mysterious Kabbalist and for project funding to come through. As recently as last month, the rabbi, who only communicates via messenger, told Jones that the time was not yet right to discover the Temple vessels. Last Thursday, however, Dr. Jones received a communication from the rabbi reading, “The time is right.†Armed with this and other blessings, Jones is now excited to uncover his life's pursuit. He believes the ark will be discovered by Tisha B'Av (Aug. 14), a day of repeated tragedy in Jewish history. Most notably, it is the anniversary of the destruction of both the First and Second Holy Temples. Noahide guru Jones says that the State of Israel is passing through the same biblical straights as the generation that first entered Israel after the exodus from Egypt. “If history repeats itself, the history itself is prophecy,†Jones says. “Israel is different from all other nations in a lot of ways, but more than anything else, Israel is the only nation whose history was written before it happened.†Once a Christian pastor, Jones left his post to become a leader of the growing Noahide movement. Noahides are G-d fearing non-Jews who observe the seven laws of Noah, which are obligatory upon all of humanity. The explorer and teacher published a book in 1959 predicting the precise outbreak of the Six Day War, based on his analysis of the period from the Exodus from Egypt up until the First Temple Period. He says that applying biblical analysis to modern times points to major events that will “turn the world right-side-up.†Jones calculated the war in 1967 by analyzing the sequence of events in the First Temple Period and transposing them onto the "Third Temple Period†– the period beginning with the Jews’ foundation of an independent State in the Land of Israel in 1948. “It fits just like tongue in groove,†he says. Jones analyzed the following passage from the book of Bamidbar (Numbers): “Every man from 20 years old and upward, all that are able to go to war...". He said it could be read this way, "So from 20 years old and upward, all that are able to go, went to war in Israel.†“Well, ’67 was the 20th year,†said Jones, who received acclaim for fighting as a non-listed soldier in the Six Day War. He was the only non-Jewish American to take part in the combat. “Two years at Mt. Sinai, and then the Jewish people went to Kadesh Barnea,†he says, referring to the time immediately following the Exodus. Transposing the Jewish people’s first entry into Israel via the Jericho region and the re-entry to those areas in 1967, one can find striking similarities. “At Kadesh Barnea, [the Jewish Nation] sent in those [twelve] spies who gave the evil report, and because they believed the evil report, they were sentenced to wander for 38 years before they could come into Gilgal†– an ancient city near Jericho. “1967 was a repetition of Kadesh Barnea,†Jones says. “If Israel had come in and taken this place, the Arabs would have fled like they did in 1948. But no, because of the evil report of Golda Meir and Motta Gur and Moshe Dayan, who said ‘We cannot do that, world opinion will be against us.’ So Israel was sentenced to 38 years more – and June the 7th [2005], Jerusalem Day, will be the 38th year. Jones believes that the Jewish prophecies regarding the greatly anticipated redemption are occuring in front of our eyes. Jones' escapades and explorations were the inspiration for the blockbuster movie 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' of the 'Indiana Jones' trilogy. The man who wrote the first draft of the film, Randolph Fillmore, was one of the volunteers who worked with Jones in 1977. “I agreed to help him write the movie,†Jones said, “as long as – number one – he wouldn’t set it here (in Israel). Some people believe the ark is in Ethiopia or Egypt, some believe its in Constantinople or Rome. I just didn’t want it to be portrayed as being here. The second thing was, 'Don’t use my name.' So he didn’t. My name is Vendyl – V-E-N-D-Y-L. So he just dropped the first and last letters and it ended up Endy Jones.†Although at the time of the film, Jones was far from pinpointing the location of the Ark, he has come a long way since then. With the help of an ancient document found in Qumran together with the Dead Sea Scrolls, known as the “Copper Scrollâ€Â, Dr. Jones is convinced he has pinpointed the location of the Ark of the Covenant. “In the copper scroll, the first five lines say, 'In the desolations of the Valley of Achur, in the opening under the ascent, which is a mountain facing eastward, covered by forty placed boulders – here is a tabernacle and all the golden fixtures,'†Jones says. "This is what we have been looking for all these years, and I’ve walked over those boulders thousands of times without really stepping back and looking – realizing ‘hey, those boulders have been brought in here, they’ve been placed in here, they didn’t come off a mountain. And they’re huge.’†Jones recounts his early explorations into the tunnels which lead from the ancient Old City of Jerusalem, near Jaffa Gate, to the foot of the Dead Sea. “My son and I went an hour and 20 minutes into the tunnel. There were so many branches and we didn’t have anything to mark the route, so I said, ‘We better get out of here and come back with a roll of string.’ Then I made the mistake of asking permission to do it. That was before I learned that Israel is a lot like heaven - it is a lot easier to get forgiveness than it is permission.†Dr. Jones, wearing an orange anti-disengagement bracelet, dismisses the current Israeli government's plan to uproot the Jews of Gaza and northern Samaria from their homes. "There will not be any disengagement, nor will there be any Palestinian State,†he says. Jones, who has a photographic memory, quotes: “Chapter One in Isaiah: 'How has the holy city become a harlot? Righteousness filled the street, but now murderers. The ruler is a friend of thieves and the ministers desire bribes.'†“The prophet wasn’t talking about his day – he was talking about now. ‘Therefore, says the L-rd, I will restore them to their beginnings. I will set judges up as at first, and counselors as in the beginning.’†The Sharon government will soon be history, Jones asserts, and the Sanhedrin (the Jewish High Court of 71 judges) will take its place and lead the Jewish people. “The Sanhedrin was established October the 13th of last year. Now all we have to do is have an election to elect counselors. The Sanhedrin is like a Senate and the elected counselors are like a House of Representatives.†Dr. Jones says the discovery of the lost ark will “flip the whole world right-side-up.†“I just gotta drill a bore-hole into the chamber, drop a pin-camera in and there it is. And everything is gonna change, believe me. The Jewish people are gonna come back.†Listen to an exclusive interview with Dr. Jones on the Noahide Movement, on IsraelNationalRadio's brand new show: 'Light Unto the Nations.' Learn more about Dr. Jones' excavations online at www.vendyljones.org.il.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steggyD Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 I think this will play a big part in the entire Zion/Muslim relationship we have going on these days. But on a lighter note... [img]http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6300214060.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #22 Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 I'm sorry steggyD, this is absolute bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CTBengalsFan Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 and when he doesn't find anything I hope no one is surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #22 Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Everyone knows the Ark is in Ethiopia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsCat Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 haha Hello Dr. Jones.... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #22 Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 [color="red"]Toht Says[/color] [img]http://www.indyartifacts.de/images/artefakte/jaeger/toht_heil.jpg[/img] This is Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 [i]Lets say that he does find the ark..... What is the signifigance of some old stone tablets, that some dickwad etched rules into on top of a mountain and then lied and said that God gave them to him as a burning bush. Nowadays we lock those kind of people up, back then we let them form religions [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/30.gif[/img] [/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #22 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Favorite theory of all time: "Mana from heaven" was really Psychobilic Mushrooms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steggyD Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 It very well may be bullshit, but I brought it up anyways. Of course, BJ, as I said some may not believe in this stuff, but many people do. And those that do believe are a big part of the reasons as to why we fight wars. The discovery of the Ark could lead to many, many problems in the Middle East. Well, I'm not holding my breath waiting for the Ark to be discovered, but I would be very interested in seeing it if he does. The Ark has a huge history and many mysteries behind it from the history of civilization. It's a huge find for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #22 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 This is true. SteggyD is doing a great job at starting conversations edit: And when they do find it, I wonder what courthouse they stick it in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steggyD Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 [quote name='#22' date='Jul 31 2005, 11:16 PM']This is true. SteggyD is doing a great job at starting conversations edit: And when they do find it, I wonder what courthouse they stick it in? [right][post="122222"][/post][/right][/quote] Yeah, it's just that the general discussions forums are so dead lately. Maybe everyone has been scared off by the "fights" we have in this forum. Or maybe everyone is finally enjoying their summer. Or maybe everyone is just patiently awaiting Bengals' training camp. Oh well, maybe I'll go have a conversation with my wife... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BengalBacker Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Even though I'm not a believer, I love things like this. I hope he finds it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 [img]http://skeptically.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/bible-authors-myth-making.jpg.w560h503.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest steggyD Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 [quote name='BlackJesus' date='Aug 1 2005, 03:12 AM'][img]http://skeptically.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/bible-authors-myth-making.jpg.w560h503.jpg[/img] [right][post="122315"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] I don't get it BJ. Of course, even if you don't believe in every story from the Bible, a lot of it, especially Old Testament is factual. I'm not saying every bit of it, but much of it is historical. So there could very well be an ark out there, not sure if this guy found it, but it could be out there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer_Rice Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I wouldn't be surprised if this were an operation. This guy smells like an agent provocateur. This [url="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=82226"]Israel National News[/url] article is very interesting. Note the purported location of the supposed ark: under the Temple Mount. And what is also there? The Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa Mosque! Can you say riots? How did the recent Intifada start? And this, deliberately timed with the Gaza pullout, represents another cruel way to stir the pot. Gonna be a hot August! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steggyD Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 [quote name='Homer_Rice' date='Aug 2 2005, 09:01 AM']I wouldn't be surprised if this were an operation. This guy smells like an agent provocateur. This [url="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=82226"]Israel National News[/url] article is very interesting. Note the purported location of the supposed ark: under the Temple Mount. And what is also there? The Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa Mosque! Can you say riots? How did the recent Intifada start? And this, deliberately timed with the Gaza pullout, represents another cruel way to stir the pot. Gonna be a hot August! [right][post="122987"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] Ahh, so someone understands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bengal_Smoov Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 [quote name='#22' date='Jul 31 2005, 04:52 PM']Everyone knows the Ark is in Ethiopia! [right][post="122126"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] Ding! Ding! Ding!...Tell him what's he won Chip! If you don't know the story of Solomon and Makeda aka the Queen of Sheba, then read a book about it. But the ark is in Ethopia, probably Lalibela. This story is nonsense and has more political implications than historical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsCat Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 [url="http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/ark.html"]http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/ark.html[/url] Just some more fuel to the fire..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatScratchFever Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 This whole thing smells a lot like Al Capone's Vault. Will Geraldo Rivera be covering this one, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoBengal Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 [quote name='CatScratchFever' date='Aug 2 2005, 12:12 PM']This whole thing smells a lot like Al Capone's Vault. Will Geraldo Rivera be covering this one, too? [right][post="123094"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] He'll come out without the Ark, but will have discovered a couple of old,dusty, half empty bottles of Manischewitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 [i][b]Maybe it is buried with Jimmy Hoffa [/b][/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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