B.A.B. Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/06/bengals-use-higher-tender-to-hang-onto-emmanuel-lamur/A year ago, a desire to save less than a million bucks cost the Bengals a player they had developed. They learned that lesson the hard way, but at least they learned. According to Field Yates of ESPN, the Bengals have used the second-round level of restricted free agent tender on linebacker Emmanuel Lamur. Thats worth $2.356 million, and virtually guarantees hell stay with them another year, as no ones likely to give up a two for him. If theyd have used the low tender of $1.542 million, he could have been poached without compensation, as he entered the league as an undrafted rookie. Thats what happened to them last year, when they used the low tender on wide receiver Andrew Hawkins, whom the Browns were able to sign without giving up anything (other than a four-year, $13.6 million contract) 2.34 eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Are the Bengals watching the same games we are watching? Lamur makes Maualuga look like Dick Butkis out there. his run defense is atrocious and his strong suit is suppose to be pass defense which he got abused repeatedly. this guy should not be starting period!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Are the Bengals watching the same games we are watching? Lamur makes Maualuga look like Dick Butkis out there. his run defense is atrocious and his strong suit is suppose to be pass defense which he got abused repeatedly. this guy should not be starting period!! Relax Sally. It's 2.3 in cap room. It's what should have been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 This was an absolute no brainer. Lamur might not be the best LB in the world but keep in mind he is still young and new to the position. We now have 3 solid part time LBs to count on for 2015 Maualuga, Rey and Lamur. We need difference making starters now. Atleast 2. Hopefully one is just rehabbing his knee and will be back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Lamur plays better when playing limited snaps in the nickel, like in 2012. He was more effective then. Good depth move. Just need a better starting SAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Lamur should be a nickel back that is only used in obvious passing situations and on special teams as of right now, hopefully the Bengals coach up the current LB's on the roster and add some in FA or the draft so that guys like Lamur aren't playing out of position and exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Lamur should be a nickel back that is only used in obvious passing situations and on special teams as of right now, hopefully the Bengals coach up the current LB's on the roster and add some in FA or the draft so that guys like Lamur aren't playing out of position and exposed. :24: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 :24: So uh.. What are you doing here exactly other than crying and complaining about literally everything? Serious question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 So uh.. What are you doing here exactly other than crying like a bitch? Serious question. Oooooooh. Oooooooh! Teacher, I know! I know! This was an absolute no brainer. Lamur might not be the best LB in the world but keep in mind he is still young and new to the position. We now have 3 solid part time LBs to count on for 2015 Maualuga, Rey and Lamur. We need difference making starters now. Atleast 2. Hopefully one is just rehabbing his knee and will be back soon. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madieu Superstar Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 This was an absolute no brainer. Lamur might not be the best LB in the world but keep in mind he is still young and new to the position. We now have 3 solid part time LBs to count on for 2015 Maualuga, Rey and Lamur. We need difference making starters now. Atleast 2. Hopefully one is just rehabbing his knee and will be back soon. If you believe in PFF at all (not sure if I do), he was rated as the worst 4-3 LB in the NFL last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I guess if they wanted to keep him, which they obviously do, the RFA tender was the way to go.. Seems like a lot of money tied up in a couple of "just ok" LB's, but it's not my wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 If you believe in PFF at all (not sure if I do), he was rated as the worst 4-3 LB in the NFL last year. Is that good? :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Bengals are like generals fighting the last war. They kick themselves for losing Hawkins so they overpay for Lamur. EL was very poor last year and certainly not deserving of such a big contract. They should have either given him a lower tender or not tendered him at all (as they seem to be doing with Still). Then re-sign him on the open market. Who are they worried would swoop in and pay him 2.3 million? A better course would have been to let Lamur and Maualuga enter free agency and look for upgrades. Overpaying to keep mediocre players is why the Bengals can't import difference makers. We've so far used 7.3 mil of cap space to retain a couple of weak spots in our lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Bengals are like generals fighting the last war. They kick themselves for losing Hawkins so they overpay for Lamur. EL was very poor last year and certainly not deserving of such a big contract. They should have either given him a lower tender or not tendered him at all (as they seem to be doing with Still). Then re-sign him on the open market. Who are they worried would swoop in and pay him 2.3 million? A better course would have been to let Lamur and Maualuga enter free agency and look for upgrades. Overpaying to keep mediocre players is why the Bengals can't import difference makers. We've so far used 7.3 mil of cap space to retain a couple of weak spots in our lineup. Maualuga is a middle of the pack LB read decent player. Not a superstar but a good player. I have no problem overpaying him a tad since he knows the system. I totally agree concerning Lamur. He isn't good, not even that close. These are the types of players we need to replace with GOOD or above players. Our backups should be seasoned vets or young guys with potential. There are plenty of FA LBs who are better than Lamur we could have signed for near the same price. Stupid move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Bengals are like generals fighting the last war. They kick themselves for losing Hawkins so they overpay for Lamur. EL was very poor last year and certainly not deserving of such a big contract. They should have either given him a lower tender or not tendered him at all (as they seem to be doing with Still). Then re-sign him on the open market. Who are they worried would swoop in and pay him 2.3 million? A better course would have been to let Lamur and Maualuga enter free agency and look for upgrades. Overpaying to keep mediocre players is why the Bengals can't import difference makers. We've so far used 7.3 mil of cap space to retain a couple of weak spots in our lineup. Say that now but then you go into Indy with Burkhead playing WR. They should kick themselves over Hawkins. They should adjust. It's a difference of less than 1 mil. Meanwhile the best LB just had microfacture surgery. Your entire point doesn't really flow, IMO. What? We can't commit an extra .8 of cap space bringing it a total of 2.3 for a reserve LB? For a year? When the best player is recovering? Come on. The issue of them going out and getting upgrades is an entire different ball of wax. Them signing Rey and Lamur is 1 thing. Sitting on their hands afterward is completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 If you believe in PFF at all (not sure if I do), he was rated as the worst 4-3 LB in the NFL last year. That's nonsense! the Bengals re signed him so he's got to be good.The point is Lamur shouldn't make above the league minimum. No way no how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I would have to agree that both EL and V.Rey should be guys that are on the bubble come training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 That's nonsense! the Bengals re signed him so he's got to be good. The point is Lamur shouldn't make above the league minimum. No way no how. Tender amounts are league stated. I don't think you are making a good point if you are suggesting he would have 0 interest at the lower tender amount. Your anger is misplaced and not timed accordingly. IMO, this is a must move with so many questions surrounding Burfict. Now, the point should be there's no way resigning Rey/Lamur should be your only solution to front seven improvements. If and when the Bengals start pointing to the extra tender and Rey extensions as to why they can't sign some other front 7 free agents then that's what you should be angry about. I'm sure Hobson in about a week will fire that article out that they've got very little to spend after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Tender amounts are league stated. I don't think you are making a good point if you are suggesting he would have 0 interest at the lower tender amount. Your anger is misplaced and not timed accordingly. IMO, this is a must move with so many questions surrounding Burfict. Now, the point should be there's no way resigning Rey/Lamur should be your only solution to front seven improvements. If and when the Bengals start pointing to the extra tender and Rey extensions as to why they can't sign some other front 7 free agents then that's what you should be angry about. I'm sure Hobson in about a week will fire that article out that they've got very little to spend after this. We don't have to tender him at all that's the point. What does he bring that a third , 5th or 6th round LB brings. at least Maualuga is physical like a linebacker should be bUT got way way overpaid but Lamur did absolutely squat on the field. He just ran around the field and celebrated whenever Illoka, Dunlap or Nelson made plays and acted like he was in on the Play. Maualuga at 5 mill is a steal when u compare to Lamur at 2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I dont mind keeping him but he really should be our 4th option at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Looks like it's gonna be a big popcorn day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 What does he bring that a third , 5th or 6th round LB brings. That's basically my question. Dude should be fighting for a roster spot. Then again IDK exactly how an RFA deal would be structured, they may be able to cut him in August without much of a hit. No idea what sort of obligation comes with the tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Scharm is right. Uncertainties abound at LB presently. If or when that wunderkind LB appears, you can then send E-Man out the door. Why do it before and have no one? Oh that's right: go sign some FA who is great, but not too expensive, too old, too short, too slow, too injured, too head case, too this, too that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 So uh.. What are you doing here exactly other than crying like a bitch? Serious question. Can I not post in my thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Ohhh snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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