They need to blow it up while we can still get something for some of these guys...

They need to blow it up while we can still get something for some of these guys...

 

I agree, and it breaks my heart. It's going to suck living through the cellar years again while the talent ripens. Assuming Walt is capable of revitalizing our farm system.

 

I agree, and it breaks my heart. It's going to suck living through the cellar years again while the talent ripens. Assuming Walt is capable of revitalizing our farm system.

 

 

As far as I can tell he should be the first to go

 

 

As far as I can tell he should be the first to go

 

X2

I have to eat crow.

 

I was happy when Walt took over the reigns and thought we were headed in the right direction.

 

I was terribly mistaken. He has driven us into a ditch, all for a couple one and done's in the playoffs.

Krivsky was the guy to take this team to the title. They went from a brilliant GM who knew how to run a small market team to a GM who only knew how to run a big market team. It shows as every big money deal he has made has been terrible and the farm system is empty now. The farm system was loaded when Krivsky was unfairly let go.

Ken Rosenthal retweeted

Reds Media Relations ‏@RedsPR  2m2 minutes ago

Raisel Iglesias will start for Reds tomorrow instead of Johnny Cueto, who has been bothered by general stiffness since Tue’s start at KC.

Dusty Baker vindicated.
Playoff level team was handed over to a neophyt coach . From contender to below Cubs level chumps.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/reds-manager-bryan-price-ejected-game-begins-31260678?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

Cincinnati Reds manager Bryan Price was ejected Saturday before the game against Cleveland began.

Price was thrown out by crew chief Jim Reynolds after the lineup cards were exchanged. The two had a lengthy heated argument that continued as the Indians players took the field. Reynolds then threw out Price.

The discussion continued before Price finally went to the dugout and returned to the clubhouse. It's unclear what led to the argument, although several Reds players were unhappy with plate umpire Manny Gonzalez's strike zone Friday night.

Cincinnati has lost a season-high six straight games and is 18-23, its worst record of the season.

The ejection was the second of the season for Price and the fourth of his career.

So who is the first chip to fall? Cueto? Chapman? Leake?

 

I think Cueto sticks around until close to the deadline. Hopefully some team gives us all kinds of prospects for him.

 

Wouldn't be entirely shocked to see Price fired fairly soon either.

d-RED-ful

 

:thumbsdown:

Think I'll be checking out the Dragons and Riverbats this season

http://www.redreporter.com/2015/5/26/8660591/reds-johnny-cueto-elbow-mri

 

Pull quote:

 

 

 

The bullpen lagged horribly, the bargain-bin signings ofKevin Gregg and Jason Marquis proved to be as inept as they appeared on paper, and the should-be nail in the coffin came in the form of a degenerative hip condition for the also recently extended Devin Mesoraco, an injury that will also require surgery and end the All Star catcher's season.

 

And

 

 

As FoxSports.com's Jon Morosi noted this morning, the Reds will find out whether their biggest trade chip - ace starter Johnny Cueto - will be back in the rotation and hurling gems within the week, or will be facing an injury that could derail everything.

 

Johnny Cueto is expected to undergo an MRI on his elbow today. His agent, Bryce Dixon, said Cueto is optimistic the issue is fatigue.

— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) May 26, 2015

 

What a disaster this season has been... 

Fack.  If Cueto is major, this city is cursed.

After we trade Cueto and Chapman we are going to be Houston 2010 bad.  Like really bad, except much higher payroll.

After we trade Cueto and Chapman we are going to be Houston 2010 bad.  Like really bad, except much higher payroll.

 

I could see Bob/Walt's dumbasses keep Chapman and extend him lol.

I wonder if anyone would be willing to take Votto's contract?  If the Reds are going to "blow it up",

might as well shed big contracts if possible.  Unfortunately were probably stuck with Bailey, with

his arm situation and all.  See if we can get anything for Phillips as well.  

 

Definitely been a disappointment to say the least.  

I wonder if anyone would be willing to take Votto's contract?  If the Reds are going to "blow it up",

might as well shed big contracts if possible.  Unfortunately were probably stuck with Bailey, with

his arm situation and all.  See if we can get anything for Phillips as well.  

 

Definitely been a disappointment to say the least.  

 

I don't think anyone would take on Votto. That is one hideous contract.

 

I don't think anyone would take on Votto. That is one hideous contract.

 

I hear ya.  It'd be nice to be able to get out from under that contract though.  

 

I hear ya.  It'd be nice to be able to get out from under that contract though.  

 

I wish we could get out from everything Walt has done. They should have NEVER passed up the Bautista for Votto deal a few seasons ago. Could have kept Yonder at 1B and Bautista in LF.

I think there is a buyout option in the Bailey contract but I can't remember for certain.

I think there is a buyout option in the Bailey contract but I can't remember for certain.

 

There is a $5million buyout but not until like 2020.  :(  

Yeah, I almost wonder if it would be better to try to get out from under Brandon/Joey's contracts or get some prospects.  Sounds like Cueto will net a good one but not great, whereas we could get some actual talent if we got out from under some of these shitastic contracts.  Plus is sounds like we have some decent pitching coming up the ranks.

Yeah, I almost wonder if it would be better to try to get out from under Brandon/Joey's contracts or get some prospects.  Sounds like Cueto will net a good one but not great, whereas we could get some actual talent if we got out from under some of these shitastic contracts.  Plus is sounds like we have some decent pitching coming up the ranks.

 

 

I agree to an extent.  The thing with Phillips and Votto's contracts.  They are already set

in stone (contract wise) so we'd probably have to settle for possibly "less talented"

prospects.  With Cueto and Chapman, in my opinion, we'd have a better shot at "more

talented" prospects given that their contracts could be negotiated by their new team.  

 

 

I agree to an extent.  The thing with Phillips and Votto's contracts.  They are already set

in stone (contract wise) so we'd probably have to settle for possibly "less talented"

prospects.  With Cueto and Chapman, in my opinion, we'd have a better shot at "more

talented" prospects given that their contracts could be negotiated by their new team.  

 

If someone took Phillips for free that'd be great. And if we got even just a little for Votto that is cool too. Just gotta get financial flexibility back. You can't give out massive long term contracts like that if you are the Reds. They need to realize they most operate like the Twins/Rays/A's. They are a small market team. If you are going to overpay someone you need to do it short term and go all in for a 2-3 year period not give huge deals for most of a decade.

 

If someone took Phillips for free that'd be great. And if we got even just a little for Votto that is cool too. Just gotta get financial flexibility back. You can't give out massive long term contracts like that if you are the Reds. They need to realize they most operate like the Twins/Rays/A's. They are a small market team. If you are going to overpay someone you need to do it short term and go all in for a 2-3 year period not give huge deals for most of a decade.

 

 

This seems so obvious that it makes me wonder WTF they were thinking or trying to accomplish.